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  • #841
    Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
    Guys any ideas for a dual purpose 90/90 or 100/80 17" tubeless tyre?
    IRC Motorcycle Tires - Kin Tai Company

    The last ones (RS-310). Have used a 130 at the rear for the my 180V2. It was really good on and off road. You could use the same at the front.
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    • #842
      Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
      Hmm..thanx for warnings..! will try not to put them..
      but, just a thought...will there be a air leak if we use tube type tyres as tubeless..?
      Instead of speaking theoretically, I would give practical examples. Rockkyy from Banglore has been using the Sirac as tubeless successfully for the past 1.5 year or so with extensive touring. He never complained about the tyre. Ravikiran has been using the Sirac as tubeless for the past 10000km or so with textensive touring under harsh conditions (i am an eye witness to it). I guess there are two more guys who are using Sirac as tubeless in P220.

      Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
      Umar is using iRC on his Unicorn which he got for 2300rs for front and rear.
      Here is the link for the album, he said they are tubeless but he has spoke wheels so he is using with tubes.
      Front is 2.75-18
      Rear is 100/90-18

      This might help u for changing your front tyres
      Picasa Web Albums - umar - IRC TIRES

      1000% right said The compound of tubeless is hard and heavier than tubed type.
      Thanks for the link.
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      • #843
        Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
        Instead of speaking theoretically, I would give practical examples. Rockkyy from Banglore has been using the Sirac as tubeless successfully for the past 1.5 year or so with extensive touring. He never complained about the tyre. Ravikiran has been using the Sirac as tubeless for the past 10000km or so with textensive touring under harsh conditions (i am an eye witness to it). I guess there are two more guys who are using Sirac as tubeless in P220.
        Sirjee...there's a difference b/w the Sirac and the M45..!!

        One is haathi and the other is a chinti..!!

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        • #844
          Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
          Guys any ideas for a dual purpose 90/90 or 100/80 17" tubeless tyre?

          I'm surprised that you are still checking for options... why don't you ride down to Hyderabad in the week-end

          May be you can call this guy (9985129036 / 040 6682 1075 - Kamal Automibiles) and speak to him about options available and cost... tell him that you were referred to by the Red Karizma guy (Ravi) who visited him on the Sunday.

          Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
          Sirjee...there's a difference b/w the Sirac and the M45..!!

          One is haathi and the other is a chinti..!!
          chinti nahin yaar... ghoda bole toh sahi hai.

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          • #845
            Originally posted by pranay View Post
            IRC Motorcycle Tires - Kin Tai Company

            The last ones (RS-310). Have used a 130 at the rear for the my 180V2. It was really good on and off road. You could use the same at the front.
            Thanks for the link dude...

            These...
            Do look good, where can I get in bangalore?


            Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
            I'm surprised that you are still checking for options... why don't you ride down to Hyderabad in the week-end

            May be you can call this guy (9985129036 / 040 6682 1075 - Kamal Automibiles) and speak to him about options available and cost... tell him that you were referred to by the Red Karizma guy (Ravi) who visited him on the Sunday.
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            • #846
              Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
              Thanks for the link dude...

              These...


              Do look good, where can I get in bangalore?
              Hmm. iRC dealers in Bangalore shouldn't be so difficult to find. Have a tour of JC Road.
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              • #847
                Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                May be you can call this guy (9985129036 / 040 6682 1075 - Kamal Automibiles) and speak to him about options available and cost... tell him that you were referred to by the Red Karizma guy (Ravi) who visited him on the Sunday.
                Sadly, i can't get in touch with this guy as Ravi told IRCs for 18 inch rims are not available..!!


                Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                chinti nahin yaar... ghoda bole toh sahi hai.
                Hmm..i guess you put it the right way..!!

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                • #848
                  Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
                  Sirjee...there's a difference b/w the Sirac and the M45..!!

                  One is haathi and the other is a chinti..!!


                  Sirac also is mentioned tube type on the walls. I am quoting in general for all Michelins.

                  But, you better use M45 as tube type. I am thinking of mailing to Michelin directly regarding the usage of these Michelins as tube less, whether it is allowed or not?
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                  • #849
                    Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                    But, you better use M45 as tube type. I am thinking of mailing to Michelin directly regarding the usage of these Michelins as tube less, whether it is allowed or not?
                    Actually this is to be done..to clear out all the confusions..!!

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                    • #850
                      I have touched & pressed the inner layer in Michelin tyres... M45 & Sirac. It is softer than in normal tyres... like how tubeless would be... but it probably was not as soft as the inner layer of the MRF Tubeless on my R15. But then, being from different companies can probably make this difference...!

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                      • #851
                        ^^^Verbal assurances do not carry weight. If it was supposed to be used as tubeless, it would have been embossed on the sidewall.

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                        • #852
                          Where in my above statement do you see a verbal assurance mentioned?

                          It is not mandatory to mention on the side walls. If it were not supposed to be tubeless it won't work for people for tens of thousands of kilometers withstanding punctures repaired with tube-less puncture repair kits. This was mentioned in earlier posts.

                          If it doesn't work for you unless the manufacturer specifies everything then don't use it. We are not an ad agency or a standards organization here... we are discussing experiences.

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                          • #853
                            Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
                            Actually this is to be done..to clear out all the confusions..!!
                            But, even if they say NO, I would support Sirac as a tubeless, it is proven.
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                            • #854
                              Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                              But, even if they say NO, I would support Sirac as a tubeless, it is proven.
                              Hmmm...for Sirac i too can vouch..but i was kindda skeptical for the M45..!!

                              Anyways, you plz do shoot a mail to them...and lets what they reply with..

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                              • #855
                                Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                                Where in my above statement do you see a verbal assurance mentioned?

                                It is not mandatory to mention on the side walls. If it were not supposed to be tubeless it won't work for people for tens of thousands of kilometers withstanding punctures repaired with tube-less puncture repair kits. This was mentioned in earlier posts.

                                If it doesn't work for you unless the manufacturer specifies everything then don't use it. We are not an ad agency or a standards organization here... we are discussing experiences.
                                Sorry, that was in response to the post preceeding yours. Guess you posted while I was typing, hence your post preceeded mine, and I could not see it at that time.

                                I still beg to differ - it has to be in writing (on the sidewall). Things may work in certain conditions and fail in some others. When a tyre is marked as tubeless, it would have been designed for and tested in all/most conditions. And I'm sure tyres are not one of the things you want to fail on a high speed ride. Are you sure you want to play a chance game here? Yours and somebody else's life and limbs will be at stake.

                                Anyway, do what you will... I can only put forward a cautionary note.

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