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  • #3016
    Interesting to note that m45 is being used as tubeless. Being a tube tyre, I wonder if the sidewalls are strong enough to be used as tubeless. As far as I know, the tube tyres do not have the strength on the sidewalls to substitute tubeless tyres. Doesn't that add extra stress to the tyre?

    Are the Michelin pilot sporty tyres easily available? What kind of tread does it have and what type of terrains can it be used on confidently?

    Prajwal
    www.youtube.com/user/prajwalkashyap

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    • #3017
      Originally posted by prajwalkashyap View Post
      Interesting to note that m45 is being used as tubeless. Being a tube tyre, I wonder if the sidewalls are strong enough to be used as tubeless. As far as I know, the tube tyres do not have the strength on the sidewalls to substitute tubeless tyres. Doesn't that add extra stress to the tyre?

      Are the Michelin pilot sporty tyres easily available? What kind of tread does it have and what type of terrains can it be used on confidently?

      Prajwal
      The sidewalls of the M45 arent strong, I have had a very tough time pushing my bike when it got punctured, the sidewalls are just too weak. The pilot sporty is excellent on tar and cement roads, off roading is very bad.
      Pilot sporty on my Fiero

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      • #3018
        Originally posted by bprags View Post
        The sidewalls of the M45 arent strong, I have had a very tough time pushing my bike when it got punctured, the sidewalls are just too weak. The pilot sporty is excellent on tar and cement roads, off roading is very bad.
        Pilot sporty on my Fiero
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        Being in Bangalore, pure tar/cement tyre like the Michelin Sporty may be a good tyre, but I do some long rides also which can include some bad roads as well. I am not sure if the sporty would be suitable then. The M45 is a very good dual-purpose tyre and I am looking for something similar but in the tubeless variety.

        Any names coming into mind? Would any IRC tyres that will suit the bill?

        Prajwal
        www.youtube.com/user/prajwalkashyap

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        • #3019
          Originally posted by prajwalkashyap View Post
          Being in Bangalore, pure tar/cement tyre like the Michelin Sporty may be a good tyre, but I do some long rides also which can include some bad roads as well. I am not sure if the sporty would be suitable then. The M45 is a very good dual-purpose tyre and I am looking for something similar but in the tubeless variety.

          Any names coming into mind? Would any IRC tyres that will suit the bill?

          Prajwal
          Michelin street siraac, should be perfect, I am not sure if they are available now.

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          • #3020
            Originally posted by prajwalkashyap View Post
            Being in Bangalore, pure tar/cement tyre like the Michelin Sporty may be a good tyre, but I do some long rides also which can include some bad roads as well. I am not sure if the sporty would be suitable then. The M45 is a very good dual-purpose tyre and I am looking for something similar but in the tubeless variety.

            Any names coming into mind? Would any IRC tyres that will suit the bill?

            Prajwal
            sirac is too heavy a tyre.why dont u enquire in banglore if some one can make m45 tubeless
            Better go in for the pirelli otherwise
            M3:15

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            • #3021
              Guyz... Any suggestions for Eliminator (17" Front, 15" rear)

              I wonder if Michellin or Pirelli provide in this range??

              @GoGreen: Con you help me with this??

              Is available, please tell where to get in Bangalore!!

              Thanks in advance

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              • #3022
                I would like to share the following information with members on xBhp.

                The following is the positioning of MICHELIN Tyres in India

                SIRAC Street - On Road Comfort and Off Road Control.
                SIRAC - On Road & Off Road - Go Anywhere tyre.
                M45 - Perfectly suited for urban use.
                M62 - Heavy Duty tyres for Urban and Rugged Road use.
                M35 - For Urban / City use.
                PILOT Sporty - For Highway / City use.

                Each of these tyres is the best tyre for the application it is intended for but not the ideal tyre for an application outside its intended use. Eg. Pilot Sporty is a perfect tyre for tarmac runways and smooth roads but if it is used for riding in Off Road conditions, the experience would not be confidence inspiring.

                Also Tyre meant for use as Tube Type, if used as Tubeless, may result in unexpected behaviour. Tyre walls are built to be flexible to expand with air pressure of tube inside. Tubeless tyreshave a more rigid sidewall because of the additional layer of butyl rubber which substitutes for the tube.

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                • #3023
                  Originally posted by crack_mech View Post
                  Guyz... Any suggestions for Eliminator (17" Front, 15" rear)

                  I wonder if Michellin or Pirelli provide in this range??

                  @GoGreen: Con you help me with this??

                  Is available, please tell where to get in Bangalore!!

                  Thanks in advance
                  Nothing from Michelin for these sizes
                  as yet.

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                  • #3024
                    Originally posted by GoGreen View Post
                    Also Tyre meant for use as Tube Type, if used as Tubeless, may result in unexpected behaviour. Tyre walls are built to be flexible to expand with air pressure of tube inside. Tubeless tyreshave a more rigid sidewall because of the additional layer of butyl rubber which substitutes for the tube.
                    hmmmm
                    i am using M45 .....made it tubeless ,.....awsum tyre .....very very very happy

                    which are other tyres same as m45 quality in tubeless ?
                    Just Me And Her [ZMR]

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                    • #3025
                      thanks a ton for your responses worrisomebear & bprags.

                      Having not been a regular at xbhp for the past 6 months does show... I am not in touch with most of the discussion. Hence had to ask.

                      I had two main concerns about using the M45 as tubeless. The sidewall Strength (already answered to an extent) & the ability to hold puncture patches.

                      I mean, if there's a puncture, how safe is it on an M45 as tubeless in terms of not loosing control? I am asking in relation to how well it holds the air and how well the side walls support the weight.

                      Also, when we to a tubeless puncture repair on the M45, how well do the seals hold up?

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                      • #3026
                        is this for vishnu's rtr? Better not to use it as a TL anna. In case of puncture the sidewall might fail! Else i had the option of making it a TL for my zma. I decided against it only for this reason.

                        P.s - this post is via my mobile :d
                        07 HH Zma
                        11 Honda Aviator DLX
                        14 Ford Figo 1.4 TDCI (Now Caged:( )
                        16 Scooty Zest
                        11 CBR 250R

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                        • #3027
                          Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                          thanks a ton for your responses worrisomebear & bprags.

                          Having not been a regular at xbhp for the past 6 months does show... I am not in touch with most of the discussion. Hence had to ask.

                          I had two main concerns about using the M45 as tubeless. The sidewall Strength (already answered to an extent) & the ability to hold puncture patches.

                          I mean, if there's a puncture, how safe is it on an M45 as tubeless in terms of not loosing control? I am asking in relation to how well it holds the air and how well the side walls support the weight.

                          Also, when we to a tubeless puncture repair on the M45, how well do the seals hold up?
                          Man, I say avoid making M45 tubeless, I have had a torrid time with it during punctures, the tyre does not have strong sidewalls as mentioned by Go Green, if you have a puncture the bike literally stands on the rims without any support from the tyres (due to weak sidewalls).

                          Performance wise M45 is very good.

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                          • #3028
                            okay guys... thanks for the responses

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                            • #3029
                              Guys please suggest a good set of tires for R15 other than OE ones. I need decent grip both on good roads and bad. I want the sizing to be as close to stock as possible, which is 80/90x17 front and 100/80x17 rear.
                              I live in coimbatore.

                              Thank you.

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                              • #3030
                                Originally posted by GoGreen View Post
                                I would like to share the following information with members on xBhp.

                                The following is the positioning of MICHELIN Tyres in India

                                SIRAC Street - On Road Comfort and Off Road Control.
                                SIRAC - On Road & Off Road - Go Anywhere tyre.
                                M45 - Perfectly suited for urban use.
                                M62 - Heavy Duty tyres for Urban and Rugged Road use.
                                M35 - For Urban / City use.
                                PILOT Sporty - For Highway / City use.

                                Each of these tyres is the best tyre for the application it is intended for but not the ideal tyre for an application outside its intended use. Eg. Pilot Sporty is a perfect tyre for tarmac runways and smooth roads but if it is used for riding in Off Road conditions, the experience would not be confidence inspiring.

                                Also Tyre meant for use as Tube Type, if used as Tubeless, may result in unexpected behaviour. Tyre walls are built to be flexible to expand with air pressure of tube inside. Tubeless tyreshave a more rigid sidewall because of the additional layer of butyl rubber which substitutes for the tube.
                                Which of the above are tubeless and what sizes do they come in? I only know that M45 is a tube tyre and also comes in 100/90-18. There isn't much info on the michelin website either, very inconsistent.

                                Prajwal
                                www.youtube.com/user/prajwalkashyap

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