Inflating Tyres with Nitrogen

[Sarvajit]

did u personally feel any difference in the riding ??

I'm not sure I would call it a "wrong" move per se - since nitrogen does basically the same job as normal air - and in this case you didn't have a choice.

I would say that under normal circumstances, it's not sensible to do that because you have to pay for it and the rubber compounds in regular tubes do not have the capacity to withstand leakage in any case, So you would be wasting your money. That's why they are recommended for tubeless tyres, where the compound has a 'self-sealing' ability.

There shouldn't be any difference in the ride quality on your bike - if at all it should improve - but on an old bike I doubt it would be noticeable.

Generally it is not that much advantageous in case of commuter bikes. Moreover 78% of air is itself nitrogen. It is advantageous only in case of Formula cars, High speed racing cars & motorcycles & High load carriage vehicle.
Does Nitrogen creates problem at the time of Leaning,means its a cold gas...I guess then the normal air...

No difference at all buddy...if I don't need to refill for 2-3 months then I prefer this as it costs only Rs.10 at this particular petrol pump!

[Sunnyside_up!]

Guys I have one doubt if we want to swtich back from NO2 to normal air should we deflate it or we can just top up with air...

Commonsense tells me there is no need to deflate but just want to know for sure!

I am not satisfied with NO2 it made my ride too bumpy I will check the pressure one more time at a different filling station and then I will switch back

No problem at all - just top up with normal compressed air. just remember that the tyre is now 'regular' air - and so should be topped up as frequently.

Next time you want to fill in N2 though, you will need to deflate again completely and then fill with N2.

[smrutiswarup]

Help With Tires

Hi Friends,

I have a 2007 Bajaj Pulsar 200. I travel a lot, and most of the times I travel on off-roads.

I am planning to change my tires. I am looking for a Tires which will get me better road grip particularly in off-road and wet road conditions. I need tires which are tough and reliable as I also travel in jungle areas where there is minimal hope for a puncture shop.

Please advice.

Cheers,
Smruti Swarup

[Sunny]

Query Merged

[worrisomebear]

Hi Friends,

I have a 2007 Bajaj Pulsar 200. I travel a lot, and most of the times I travel on off-roads.

I am planning to change my tires. I am looking for a Tires which will get me better road grip particularly in off-road and wet road conditions. I need tires which are tough and reliable as I also travel in jungle areas where there is minimal hope for a puncture shop.

Please advice.

Cheers,
Smruti Swarup

go in for pirellis 17 inches or michellin

[Centaur]

Guys I have one doubt if we want to swtich back from NO2 to normal air should we deflate it or we can just top up with air...

Commonsense tells me there is no need to deflate but just want to know for sure!

I am not satisfied with NO2 it made my ride too bumpy I will check the pressure one more time at a different filling station and then I will switch back

My problem is the same. Got my tires filled with nitrogen 3 days back -- 32 rear and 28 front. The ride seemed pretty smooth.. The next day, the rear was as hard as a rock..got it checked in the evening, it was 40 . Decreased the pressure, and everything was fine.
Yesterday, again, rock hard .
Dont' know what's happening
Could it be because I got the nitrogen filled in the afternoon?


Any help would be appreciated -- else I would have to go back to **regular** , which would be a shame because nitrogen theoretically doesn't have to be checked as frequently as regular air

[Sarvajit]

I think my R15 is showing adverse effects to Nitrogen. It is losing pressure very soon-lost about 9 psi in 5 days. I was quite amazed since normal air never used to go down this soon, how can it happen with Nitrogen.
There are no rim bends, only possibility is one of the old punctures has given way slightly, but even in that case it should have gone flat in a day or two-that also hasn't happened. It is steadily losing about 1 psi from the front, which is somewhat acceptable and 2 psi per day from the rear, which is not.
Any ideas on it?

[Juris]

I think my R15 is showing adverse effects to Nitrogen. It is losing pressure very soon-lost about 9 psi in 5 days. I was quite amazed since normal air never used to go down this soon, how can it happen with Nitrogen.
There are no rim bends, only possibility is one of the old punctures has given way slightly, but even in that case it should have gone flat in a day or two-that also hasn't happened. It is steadily losing about 1 psi from the front, which is somewhat acceptable and 2 psi per day from the rear, which is not.
Any ideas on it?

I don't whether this is coincidence or something fishy. I too started facing front and rear tyre(R15) losing air pressure after switching to Nitrogen. I switched back to normal air and till date get air pressure checked and corrected twice a week. Pain but could get any solution to air pressure going low day by day.

[Sunnyside_up!]

Without pointing fingers at anybody, it has been my observation that MANY riders top-up their tires after riding for awhile. A tire should NEVER be filled up when warm, especially true with Nitrogen as the PSI reading will be off, resulting in over inflation. (Hence the rock-hard complaint after the tire cools down)

The culprit for loss of pressure after filling N2 is normally down to the quality of the Nitrogen. Filling stations use N2 from generators which actually remove the oxygen and moisture from regular air - at least in theory. These generators unfortunately do not always produce 'pure' N2 due to losses in efficiency due to lack of maintenance of the equipment, etc., Of course, another culprit could be a leaky valve or old re-opened puncture.

I have been using N2 for over 3 years , topping up about every 45 days at a reputed tire dealer in my locality in both my cars and bikes and have had ZERO complaints so far. I do not believe that our modest driving will generate so much heat that we need N2 to cool down our tires but I do feel that the single most important benefit is having properly inflated tires most of the time.

Hope this helps. Cheers!

[tusharsmoily]

Nitrogen gas in bike tyres

Hey there XBHPians, my name is Tushar and im from Mumbai but currently I am doing engineering in Mangalore. Im a newbie to XBHP. And yes, I ride a TVS Apache RTR 160 carburetor model.


I guess we all are familiar with Nitrogen gas in Bike's/Car's tyres, but sine this community is dedicated only to bikes, we shall discuss about the Nitrogen gas in bikes only.

I jus wanted to know that what are advantages of Nitrogen gas over normal air gas? Are they good? (considering the fact that they are preety costly compared to normal air gas :-D). How do they improve the handling of the bike, if they do.

Hope you guys help me in this.

Yours sincerely,
Tushar.

[sunilg]

Query approved.

[rameshmadhavan]

Hey there XBHPians, my name is Tushar and im from Mumbai but currently I am doing engineering in Mangalore. Im a newbie to XBHP. And yes, I ride a TVS Apache RTR 160 carburetor model.


I guess we all are familiar with Nitrogen gas in Bike's/Car's tyres, but sine this community is dedicated only to bikes, we shall discuss about the Nitrogen gas in bikes only.

I jus wanted to know that what are advantages of Nitrogen gas over normal air gas? Are they good? (considering the fact that they are preety costly compared to normal air gas :-D). How do they improve the handling of the bike, if they do.

Hope you guys help me in this.

Yours sincerely,
Tushar.

Hi Thushar....have tried Nitrogen on my Lightning 535 and have not seen any change....dont think for our road condition it would make a difference also

[aargee]

@Ramesh - Nitrogen is good especially during summer to keep the tires cool during those high speed long travel. Also the frequency of airchecks are less.

[sunilg]

Similar topics merged.

[dhiraj]

Advantages of Nitrogen :

• A tire that has been inflated with nitrogen will maintain 'air pressure' much better and for a slightly longer period of time, as compared to a tire that has been inflated with regular air. This is because nitrogen molecules are larger in size than oxygen molecules and therefore, are less likely to leak or escape through the tire valve.
• This indirectly, helps in bettering the fuel efficiency of the vehicle. This is because, insufficient air pressure in the bike tyre can have an adverse effect on its fuel consumption and resultant fuel efficiency. Nitrogen filled tires have better and more consistent 'air pressure' which consequently, aid the vehicle's fuel efficiency (even if it is by a small margin).
• Pure nitrogen is much drier than regular air (which contains water vapor). Depending on tire temperatures, the water vapor in the air undergoes changes in pressure, which results in varying tire pressures. This is not an issue in case of nitrogen filled tires.
• Oxygen and water vapor react with the insides of the bike tyre, i.e., with the rubber as well as the metal rims, and gradually lead to development and deposition of rust. This has an adverse effect on the longevity of the bike tyre. Nitrogen does not react with the bike tyre insides or with the rim, thereby enhancing the life of the bike tyre.
• Nitrogen is a gas that does not support combustion, therefore in case of an extremely overheated tire catching fire, nitrogen makes for much better safety than regular air (which contains oxygen that supports combustion).
• Filling nitrogen in tires also helps in keeping the insides of the tire cool, even at high speeds.

Disadvantages of Nitrogen :

1). There is only one drawback of substituting air with nitrogen. Nitrogen costs money, unlike air, which is free.

2). Availability is bit of concern.


Though Air contains 80% of nitrogen in it.