Info: Spark Plugs

[rajsanand]

I will be watching this topic, really need to hear advice given by people who own bullets.
Till today all the negative advice I have got about bullets is from people who do not own bullets. Then I have heard some mechanics say the new bikes are not good, but I feel that is because they have not upgraded themselves to service the new bikes, because old bikes even a non-mechanic can repair with a little bit of experience.

I liked the thunderbird, personally i feel that if you get a good mechanic then you need worry as you are ready to spend on your girlfriend ;-).
Hope you make the right decision(that is go for the thunderbird :-P)

[46wannabe]

Im prepared to pamper the vehicle with money and care, but not with time !!! Would it work out ?

Hey Vinayaga,
I know nothing about Bullets. But I do know one thing, 'Money' and 'Care' to pamper any vehicle is a very good thing, but 'Time' is one entity that goes hand-in-glove with 'Money' and 'Care'. Sometimes, even directly proportional to each other! So be prepared for that too.

All said and done, I do pray you make the best decision.

Regards,
Joey

[vinayaga]

Thanks Ananth. The information was really usefull. Im more or less convinced now and the only headache remaining (seems to be specific to Enfields) is that Enfield do not have any tie ups with Financiers and banks. They are asking me to take their quotation to the bank and ask for the loan from any bank. Guess I need to work out my finances this week as I do not fancy running aroudn the banks !

And Sandeep, I have been programming for over 15 years now, so the structured approach to problem solving is all in the blood.

[vinayaga]

Anath, What was the waiting period for the TBTS in Chennai ? Here in Bangalore, Im being told 15 days at the minimum for a Red bike. And they are refusing to offer any freebies and discounts, is that the same case everywhere ?

[Ananth]

Thanks Ananth. The information was really usefull. Im more or less convinced now and the only headache remaining (seems to be specific to Enfields) is that Enfield do not have any tie ups with Financiers and banks. They are asking me to take their quotation to the bank and ask for the loan from any bank. Guess I need to work out my finances this week as I do not fancy running around the banks !

w r t Auto Loans, A F A I K, there are two or more banks involved - HDFC and Family Trust or something - which ask you to pay up 30k+ as initial and balance as EMI's and some other smaller banks are also involved which as 40% as initial deposit (40k+)

You don't need to run around Banks, instead visit a R E Showroom and they would guide you..

Anath, What was the waiting period for the TBTS in Chennai ? Here in Bangalore, Im being told 15 days at the minimum for a Red bike. And they are refusing to offer any freebies and discounts, is that the same case everywhere ?

The waiting period differs from showroom to showroom, for instance the RE Besant nagar showroom ask for 1 month waiting period while the one in Anna nagar (southern motors) ask for a max 15 day waiting period.. If you personally know some one in some showroom, they can get you the ride within 10 days..

Check with all the R E Showrooms, call up and bug them or take a test ride in all the showrooms - see which one suits u better

Good Luck!

[Sandeep_K_Ram]

I wanted to ask you, but thought the better of it ...

[wierd_san]

well i have i a Mach350 old one and i abs adore the bike, yes the bike needs attention but nothin a bike lover is not ready to indulge in. i cant talk bout the TBTS but anyone who owns a Bull will come to love all the tantrums it throws no matter how many ppl they have to support. also i dnt think a Bull will overheat that much after a 20 km ride, after all ppl have toured long and hard on it and have never complained of a Bull over-heatin. So i say go for it and dnt look back. but this is just my 2 paise[thot id be a little indian]

[ghostrider1987]

Iridium Spark Plug on a Honda Dio

hey i own an honda dio 2003 model.She has never let me down.i wanted to fit in a iridium spark plug for her.but i'm confused on how will it affect my fuel efficency,performance,etc.will it coz damage for my engine if i fit it.pls help me

[Sunny]

Query approved

[Deepakumar]

Go for it.

It wont do any bad for ur Engine, go for it but make sure tht u get correct model no!! i.e : CR6HIX. .

[Sarvajit]

go through the complete faq and tech speak section on the NGK website... there's hell lot of information. Heven't read it fully but so far I got an opinion that the iridium plugs are not needed for regular bikes... the G-Power (platinum) ones are very good.

As far as my understanding goes, it is because the spark plug also needs certain operating temp and plugs like the iridium ones are cool ones... useful for racing engines (may be we can read it as high-revving engines).

G-Power plugs are available for Rs 130 ... regular ones for Rs 65... the G-Power seems to be worth a try.

I have written to NGK asking the same questions. Yet to get a reply from them. I am planning to install Iridium IX Spark Plugs on my R15 as well as my F2.
For R15, Regular, GPower as well as Iridium IX are available,
but for F2, either it is the Regular or Iridium one!

Friends please share your inputs on using Iridium Spark Plugs on bikes other than R15.

P.S. KP, I've gone through the whole site. Both iridium and platinum are the metals used for more efficient sparking&less carbon deposits&both seem to yield similar results-better throttle response, cold starting, idling&also fuel efficiency responses. The same was written under 'Racing Spark Plugs' question too. So, it seems to be just a matter of budget. I don't think using Iridium should spoil anything. If that is the case, platinum also maybe harmful.

[HydBiker]

Both iridium and platinum are the metals used for more efficient sparking&less carbon deposits&both seem to yield similar results-better throttle response, cold starting, idling&also fuel efficiency responses. The same was written under 'Racing Spark Plugs' question too.

good. u got it right.

So, it seems to be just a matter of budget.

u lost track of it here. The iridium plug is much more efficient & longer lasting than the platinum plug.

but my question is... "by how much margin" and "is the 350% more cost of the iridium plug over the platinum plug justified?"

I don't think using Iridium should spoil anything. If that is the case, platinum also maybe harmful.

yes. I see no harm other than to the wallet!

[Sarvajit]

good. u got it right.

u lost track of it here. The iridium plug is much more efficient & longer lasting than the platinum plug.

but my question is... "by how much margin" and "is the 350% more cost of the iridium plug over the platinum plug justified?"

yes. I see no harm other than to the wallet!

Thanks KP. I'm posting to you most of the time last few days! Anyways, R15 Iridium can wait till 12K service. Would you recommend Iridium for F2 or not is the question. I'm getting a 47K service done this weekend, so it will be done in the 50K service. Have time to make up my mind till then. Don't have any issues with the cost, but I don't wanna mess up anything, considering shes an old lady now!

[M.R.B]

The Ignitors of Power (All about the Spark)

The information for Spark Plugs, CDIs and TCIs is scatted all over.

This is very useful:

[HydBiker]

Thanks KP. I'm posting to you most of the time last few days! Anyways, R15 Iridium can wait till 12K service. Would you recommend Iridium for F2 or not is the question. I'm getting a 47K service done this weekend, so it will be done in the 50K service. Have time to make up my mind till then. Don't have any issues with the cost, but I don't wanna mess up anything, considering shes an old lady now!

Yes, she's already decently old and that was my concern too. Any odd stuff now would only accelerate her aging process. I am sure that the iridium plugs generate more heat too - because of the higher combustion efficiency. But I don't have enough knowledge to conclude things here. I'd have happily gone for a Platinum plug but one of that model is not available in Platinum series

Here is my take then - if your engine is giving absolutely no noise - valves / piston / connecting rod then try the Iridium as your engine seems to be good. Else go for the regular one.

But first change ur spark plug from that stock one. It is very easy and can be done in less than 5 minutes by u with the took set given in the bike. Don't wait for service here.