Engine Oils

[ShahriarXtreme]

Yamalube is another great oil. You might notice slightly better mileage then gulf. Good enough for the trip but all engines consume some amount of oil, specially on summers (more on high speed long runs) that's why [I'm saying it again ] keep an eye on oil level.
According to me yamalube & motul (same oil but with slightly different additive package) tops the chart of best mineral oils. And closely followed by valvoline champ & gulf (only downside of valvoline champ is it doesn't go black even after 2k kms of running, though performs great and gulf is (feels) thicker than most 20w40, it also performs great once got upto operating temperature.)

thanks bro.....its been a 800kms tour and oil seem to keep up very well...

Don't worry Shahriar bhai ,you got the perfect oil to run long distances in this summer heat. The thumping is more pronounced because of better compression with this oil since it's 20w40 and causing better ring seal. Acceleration may feel a bit sluggish at cold start, but in a few kms riding it becomes perfect. It also feels less revvy because of lesser engine noise. Actual differences are much less. Which oil were you running just before this and what grade ?

Bro i was running gulf pride 20w40.....then before the tour i switched to yamalube....gulf used to make my engine super smooth on the other hand yamalube makes my engine littlebit throaty and acceleration is harder....
Liked both of them

[dhiraj]

Hi,

Does Yama lube comes in Fully Synthetic in 10w40 grade and where i will get it in Mumbai (near by borivali to mira road)

[vivekgautams]

Shell AX-7 or Castrol Power 1..

Will the change of engine oil to reduce the vibration of the engine (RTR 180).Is it possible with just engine oil or... ?
Which one is better for RTR 180 , the AX-7 or the Power1 ?? Any other engine oil is better.?

[muztariq]

Will the change of engine oil to reduce the vibration of the engine (RTR 180).Is it possible with just engine oil or... ?
Which one is better for RTR 180 , the AX-7 or the Power1 ?? Any other engine oil is better.?

Motul 7100 or 300V (both 10w40 or 15W50 grade) reduces the engine vibrations to a great extent in an RTR.

If you have the money Motul 300V 15W50 is the one to go for.. will be Rs. 950 for a litre.

@ Dhiraj - Why Yamalube? Go for Motul or Shell. They have 10W40 grades and better than Yamalube (which does not have a 10W40)

[vivekgautams]

Motul 7100 or 300V (both 10w40 or 15W50 grade) reduces the engine vibrations to a great extent in an RTR.

If you have the money Motul 300V 15W50 is the one to go for.. will be Rs. 950 for a litre.

How many km will the Motul 300V 15W50 will work perfectly..?Will it cause the clutch/gears to slip..??
Thank you.

[prajnyan]

Motul 7100 or 300V (both 10w40 or 15W50 grade) reduces the engine vibrations to a great extent in an RTR.

If you have the money Motul 300V 15W50 is the one to go for.. will be Rs. 950 for a litre.

@ Dhiraj - Why Yamalube? Go for Motul or Shell. They have 10W40 grades and better than Yamalube (which does not have a 10W40)

Yes, it's true motul 300v a totally synt oil is good but it's better to stick to mineral in initial runs as well as if we only ride about 1k/month.
I believe that grade of oil is not everything, it only describes what weather condition the oil could be utilised. What goes in the oil, that matters. Yamalube is engineered with a lot of refinement and again its manufactured by motul itself to Yamaha standards. Moreover it's only sold at Yamaha service centers so the genuine produce is guaranteed. I prefer yamalube for my Yamaha bike.

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[prajnyan]

Hi,

Does Yama lube comes in Fully Synthetic in 10w40 grade and where i will get it in Mumbai (near by borivali to mira road)

As far as I know you only get two kinds here in yamalube.
1. Mineral 20w40 - lasts 2500km-rs.289
2. Semi-synth 15w50 - about 4000km - rs.495

If you want fully synth. prefer motul 300v, cost close to rs.1k
I suggest it If you ride about 100km+ a day or 6k-8k km in your service interval. If its any less go for above yamalube semisynt.

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[vivekgautams]

If you want fully synth. prefer motul 300v, cost close to rs.1k
I suggest it If you ride about 100km+ a day or 6k-8k km in your service interval.

i'm changing from TVS TRU4 Oil to a full synthetic oil (Eg. motul 300v). Is it a good idea..??Will it damage the clutch or anything like that.??
So motul 300v runs for 8k km..

[muztariq]

How many km will the Motul 300V 15W50 will work perfectly..?Will it cause the clutch/gears to slip..??
Thank you.

a synthetic will last 5000 kms if you ride sanely.. Some top ups of 30-40 ml with a mineral of the same grade is what ppl do when they put this oil.. As these oils tend to escape faster from the engine.

There are two reaso s why ppl use synthetics
1. High speed rides and protection
2. Comfort and smoothness in ride.
I have seen ppl getting smoother rides on an rtr which is quite a raw engine bike with lots of vibrations.

I will never put yamalube mineral in my fazer.. Even if they give it to me for free.. Such is the roughness i encounter..
The higher power bike you have the more roughness you will encounter (exception -karizma and other honda bikes which have very refined engine).
No one on the P220 thread uses mineral.. KTM guys have motul 7100 recommendation.. Bullet/enfield has motul 5100 ss recommendation.

If an rtr owner wants a smooth ride fs oils is one way, second way is to ride it like a 100cc bike.

No. It wont damage anything except your bank balance.. Rather it would be better in protection at high speed rides or excessive stop go small trip rides etc. :-)

[vivekgautams]

a synthetic will last 5000 kms if you ride sanely.. Some top ups of 30-40 ml with a mineral of the same grade is what ppl do when they put this oil.. As these oils tend to escape faster from the engine.

I will never put yamalube mineral in my fazer.. Even if they give it to me for free.. Such is the roughness i encounter..

If an rtr owner wants a smooth ride fs oils is one way, second way is to ride it like a 100cc bike.

Sir, ther is a small seepage of engine oil from the crank shaft position locator nut.will this cause excess loss of full synthetic oil.??
Fazer has a very very smooth engine & cannot be compared with the RTR's.
A RTR rider will do anything to smoothen the frustrating engine vibrations but will never treat the beast as a 100cc..

[muztariq]

Sir, ther is a small seepage of engine oil from the crank shaft position locator nut.will this cause excess loss of full synthetic oil.??
Fazer has a very very smooth engine & cannot be compared with the RTR's.
A RTR rider will do anything to smoothen the frustrating engine vibrations but will never treat the beast as a 100cc..

no sir plz.. It makes me feel old. I am 31!
To check how the oil performs in your bike, start off with the ss motul 5100 oil. After the initial 100 kms get the feel.. If it reduces vibrations, fs will further improve the feel. You will have to check the oil levels regularly.. If the loss is more than your mineral, fs wont stay long.. But a 15w50 should stay intact i feel. You may be using xxw40 grade(i dont know what tvs 4t is)

just checked, tru4 from tvs is a ss 10w30 oil (surprising!!) when you use a shell 10w40 ax7 oil it should run fine. Rtr guys use 15w50 300v without complains.. Its quite thicker than your 10w30.

[Mzee_Maverik]

can you plz tell me the best mineral oil of grade 20w40 for summer use. im using shell AX7 10w40 SS but since here temperature is above 45 degrees im willing to shift to slightly heavier oil as engine is slightly overheating. so please suggest a mineral oil other than gulf pride 4t plus, valvoline and motul.

[prajnyan]

i'm changing from TVS TRU4 Oil to a full synthetic oil (Eg. motul 300v). Is it a good idea..??Will it damage the clutch or anything like that.??
So motul 300v runs for 8k km..

Be it fully synthetic or mineral both last quite a few hundred of start stop. Please note once you pour oil into engine, doesn't matter if your bike runs 8k km, after about 3 to 4 months you may have to change the oil. Since its difficult to those on tour or for someone travels about 100km a day, which means every 15-20days he would end up wanting to change his mineral oil,a synth on other hand would last him about 3 months and not only save on cost, would be eco friendly as he reduced wastage of 4lt of oil, just to 1lt.

Yes clutch slip sometimes occur with fully synth, but not unless clutch is worn to half life. So if you travel like 5k km a month then about a liter of fully synth with a little 100ml of mineral would keep both engine happy and no clutch slip. Although I would recommend. Against it. Better use semi synth

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[Pinaki]

can you plz tell me the best mineral oil of grade 20w40 for summer use. im using shell AX7 10w40 SS but since here temperature is above 45 degrees im willing to shift to slightly heavier oil as engine is slightly overheating. so please suggest a mineral oil other than gulf pride 4t plus, valvoline and motul.

If you are not able to get these oils , buy Yamalube 20w40 from any Yamaha ASC parts counter or Servo 4T 20w40 from any IndianOil petrol bunk . There isn't that much difference between the 20w40 mineral oils to lose sleep upon .

Update : I finally bought a bottle of that Gulf Pride 4t Syth

[Mzee_Maverik]

If you are not able to get these oils , buy Yamalube 20w40 from any Yamaha ASC parts counter or Servo 4T 20w40 from any IndianOil petrol bunk . There isn't that much difference between the 20w40 mineral oils to lose sleep upon .

Update : I finally bought a bottle of that Gulf Pride 4t Syth

sir what about shell ax5 20w40(yellow bottle)??? is it any good? thinking to go with it as it is readily available here in lucknow