Engine Oils

[Shibadip]

Exactly. The additives are just added to base oils categorizing them in groups and it's mostly their viscosity index that gives them a slightly upper edge.


VJ

As u said buddy, i too drain the oil, depending on how i feel my bike running...
Have drained the crappy Dtsi oil within a span of 1000 kms, which was poured in during the first service..

After that have put in motul 3100, and still now it has been 4000 Kms, and i still feel the oil has something left in it..


Just to be sure, i wanna know, what are the conditions that one should check (like engine heating, engine roughness and stuffs) to decide whether the oil has served it's life or not?

[B7ACKTHORN]

As u said buddy, i too drain the oil, depending on how i feel my bike running...
Have drained the crappy Dtsi oil within a span of 1000 kms, which was poured in during the first service..

After that have put in motul 3100, and still now it has been 4000 Kms, and i still feel the oil has something left in it..


Just to be sure, i wanna know, what are the conditions that one should check (like engine heating, engine roughness and stuffs) to decide whether the oil has served it's life or not?

You probably answered your question. Engine heating happens with almost any oils, it's just that there are a lot of factors that come into play with respect to engine heating etc. Roughness can be attributed in part, because that's the first sign it's getting out of shape. Frequent misshifts, slippages, etc etc are the some aspects to keep in mind.

It's unique for everyone when it comes to oil life, lots and lots of factors come into play with regards to oil life.

Cheers!
VJ

[devils_friend]

As u said buddy, i too drain the oil, depending on how i feel my bike running...
Have drained the crappy Dtsi oil within a span of 1000 kms, which was poured in during the first service..

After that have put in motul 3100, and still now it has been 4000 Kms, and i still feel the oil has something left in it..


Just to be sure, i wanna know, what are the conditions that one should check (like engine heating, engine roughness and stuffs) to decide whether the oil has served it's life or not?

3100 is mineral or semi synth ??

The drain conditions are all dependant on various factors. How you ride, driving conditions, city or highway driving.

Witht the above points, you can decide the drain intervals easily.

Cheerz!!

[B7ACKTHORN]

3100 is mineral or semi synth ??

The drain conditions are all dependant on various factors. How you ride, driving conditions, city or highway driving.

Witht the above points, you can decide the drain intervals easily.

Cheerz!!

3100 is Mineral. And you can get all the info as many senior members and I have posted. Motul has been the "celebrity" of this thread, being asked the same question "n" number of times. So anyone interested in getting the interval details, it has been slated and answered.

Cheers!
VJ

[B7ACKTHORN]

Guess this question must have been asked before :
But, is Motul 300v FS available in grade 20W50?
I could not find Motul 5100 in the same grade, can a 15w50 grade oil be used for 20w50 recommended one?

There is 20w60, but that is for cars, not motorcylcles. 15w50 can be used in the place of 20w50. In fact it's even better than 20w50 reason being, it is more fluidic at cold temperatures as opposed to 20w50. If you want EXACTLY the 50w50 then go for Motul 7100 20w50.

Cheers!
VJ

[Touseef Ahmed Mohammed]

3100 is Mineral. And you can get all the info as many senior members and I have posted. Motul has been the "celebrity" of this thread, being asked the same question "n" number of times. So anyone interested in getting the interval details, it has been slated and answered.

But there is TECHNOSYNTHESE written on MOTUL 3100's can. Shocked to hear its mineral. How could this be??

[krish2778]

But there is TECHNOSYNTHESE written on MOTUL 3100's can. Shocked to hear its mineral. How could this be??

It's mineral with small amounts of synthetic particles or additives.

Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

[Pinaki]

... Synth oil can be changed after 6k easily. Till then, no issues with it...

How ? Please explain yaar . I'm not getting it .

Semi synth oil has base oil of higher group. Mineral oil has the base group (Group 1) . Also, as you go from mineral to SS to FS, the base oil category improves and this helps in having extended drain intervals.Higher the base oil, higher can be the drain interval...

You mean TWICE as much engine dirt shall dissolve and be held suspended for TWICE as long time , without it becoming SATURATED - by one liter of synthetic oil , compared to one liter of mineral oil ?
Is there that much difference between mineral and synthetic oil's capacity to clean and hold engine dirt ?

[Honda_CBF]

. Firstly - how can a semi-synthetic oil's drain interval be more than that of it's base(mineral) oil at all ? Even if we accept that the little bit of synthetic oil that's mixed in it lasts longer , what about the base oil that is all mineral ? Would that not go bad in the same time & kilometers of use , as any other mineral oil ? Once the base oil (which is most of the oil) in the semi-synthetic , goes bad ... how can it continue to function as intended ?Moreover - I do not think you can run even a fully synthetic oil for vastly extended drain intervals than a mineral oil . Synthetic oils are known to be much less susceptible to oxidation and other deterioration and hence hold it's grade and last longer ... all that is very good - the oil continues to feel like new even after say 2000 kms of hard use . But the capacity of the small volume of oil in a motorcycle engine to hold dirt and blow-by effluents and neutralise acids would be saturated near about at the same time/kilometers as the same volume of any other oil . No ? So the danger is that after saturation the oil would continue to feel like new ... while it is no longer able to collect engine effluents (and hold it in suspension) or neutralise acid and deposit all that dirty stuff inside the engine . Isn't it ?

Exactly!!

If you still can find that yamalube , buy it . That 20w40 SG yamalube was one heck of a good oil and cheaper than the current SL one too ! No longer at my yahama dealers here .. else I'd buy up as much was available .

hehe.. already using it. Its the last bottle I guess. Even Valvoline champ, SG rated, is great oil.. These oils feels very much like Gulf TD and Shell Remula R3X but are priced ~ Rs200. (much cheaper) and these are JASO MA oils. So no worry of clutch slippage.

[Pinaki]

..... After that have put in motul 3100, and still now it has been 4000 Kms, and i still feel the oil has something left in it..
Just to be sure, i wanna know, what are the conditions that one should check (like engine heating, engine roughness and stuffs) to decide whether the oil has served it's life or not?

Drain that oil NOW , unless you really want to use your bike to test the limits of a bottle of oil .

[psr]

The engine oil drain & change interval for the Bike engine is usually,

1. Mineral oil......1.5~2 K Kms.

2. Semisynth......2 ~ 2.5 K Kms

3. Fully Synth.....2.5 ~ 3.5 K Kms..

Anything above this is at your Engine's Risk..Forget what is written on the Container,and claims by the Manufacturer...

Nobody lost an engine by changing the engine oil more often...but many had by extending oil change interval.

[princesirohi]

if this is the case, how come bikes like Honda CBR250R & Hyosung GT250R have oil change intervals of 5000 - 6000 kms.... ??

[Vishwa_98]

"Like wise in Two wheeler the drain period for Mineral oil is 6K kilometers"

Oops! Sorry Guys

[devils_friend]

How ? Please explain yaar . I'm not getting it .

You mean TWICE as much engine dirt shall dissolve and be held suspended for TWICE as long time , without it becoming SATURATED - by one liter of synthetic oil , compared to one liter of mineral oil ?
Is there that much difference between mineral and synthetic oil's capacity to clean and hold engine dirt ?

What makes you think that, mineral oils have better drain intervals than other oils??

My earlier posts says that as you go from Mineral to SS to FS , the base oil quality improves. For any engine oil, the base oil is the most important component. The base oil determines various factors like oil consumption, oil quality just to name a few. So, as the base oil quality improves, the holding capacity, performance factors etc of any oil improves.

All the oil companies try to vary the base oil in the engine oil. This helps them give an edge over other market players.

Also, the API specs play an important role for making of an oil. The API have laid down certain criteria with regards to the limits for the oils. All the oils have to pass the tests (within specified limits) in order to obtain the required API SG/SL/SM whatsoever.

Hope this clarifies

Cheerz!!

if this is the case, how come bikes like Honda CBR250R & Hyosung GT250R have oil change intervals of 5000 - 6000 kms.... ??

Well bro, any genuine oil of a company has been made as per their own recipe and requirement. These oils are actually tested on field and the results obtained, help the manufacturer determine any changes for their oil (if required).

Cheerz!!

[arjunb25]

I got this put today on my unicorn



hello friends can you throw a light on this engine oil I am planning to use it. Going to change it tom.
Hence please give your feed backs for this oil.
Vehicle is honda cb unicorn.