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  • Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
    I too am using the same grade oil together with Castrol Premium Formula Gel (Lithium based) grease. Excellent, in my experience.
    I bought the same Castrol Premium Formula Gel for ZMR, feels like great used it in handle racer and other parts.... Applied it to chain.... What is your feedback.. You are using it since long, still using it??

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    • Re: Engine Oils

      Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
      I bought the same Castrol Premium Formula Gel for ZMR, feels like great used it in handle racer and other parts.... Applied it to chain.... What is your feedback.. You are using it since long, still using it??
      Interesting. But can you just elaborate a little more on what the difference you felt from using this grease as opposed to lithium based normal greases. Now I understand different usage recommends different greases, but this gel, how does it fare from the lith. Because just feels great is kinda hard to zero in on the hard facts, because I am a very slow learner.

      Cheers!
      VJ
      Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
      The girl said, 'NO!'


      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


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      • Re: Engine Oils

        Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
        Interesting. But can you just elaborate a little more on what the difference you felt from using this grease as opposed to lithium based normal greases. Now I understand different usage recommends different greases, but this gel, how does it fare from the lith. Because just feels great is kinda hard to zero in on the hard facts, because I am a very slow learner.

        Cheers!
        VJ
        Not sure it's the grease or the new handle racer that is making feel great!! But I assume it is better than the normal lithium grease as I have used the gel grease on my chain and there is no sound and sound in chain while gear shifting has vanished.. Earlier I have applied lithium grease but that didn't damped the chain noise nor did it smoothen the gear sifting...

        Now it's your call to make out of my words, exactly what I mean

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        • Re: Engine Oils

          Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
          Not sure it's the grease or the new handle racer that is making feel great!! But I assume it is better than the normal lithium grease as I have used the gel grease on my chain and there is no sound and sound in chain while gear shifting has vanished.. Earlier I have applied lithium grease but that didn't damped the chain noise nor did it smoothen the gear sifting...

          Now it's your call to make out of my words, exactly what I mean
          The reason I asked is because though there are specific greases for specific purposes, and I appreciate the thoughts, and there are liquid/molten greases and normal greases and this gel based and though I haven't used this Castrol Premium gel, I just wanted to get a thought as it was kinda of a placebo effect.

          Cheers!
          VJ
          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
          The girl said, 'NO!'


          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


          THE END

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          • Re: Engine Oils

            Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
            I bought the same Castrol Premium Formula Gel for ZMR, feels like great used it in handle racer and other parts.... Applied it to chain.... What is your feedback.. You are using it since long, still using it??
            Castrol's premium formula gel is lithium grease too , but it is NLGI 2.5 grade ( i.e softer ) as opposed to the usual NLGI 3 grade greases that is standard in our climate . It looks as nice as to be edible . Only shame it is available in 500gm tub and largers packs only .
            For wheel bearings only I use the other castrol grease "premium long life" which is the usual NLGI grade 3 and available in 200gm pouch . I lubed my bike's steering cone bearings with Waxpol Multipurpose AP3 grease ( my long-time fav for general purpose ) last month only , and the bearings feels just superb too . I guess it's just that you took the trouble to grease those bearings up and not what grease you used .
            For your bike's chain , possibly the softer grease you used ( premium formula gel ) is getting into the joints better . But if you oil the chain before you grease it , that would not matter . Then again, since this thing is working well for you - keep using it .
            Last edited by Pinaki; 12-11-2013, 02:23 AM.

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            • Re: Engine Oils

              Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
              Castrol's premium formula gel is lithium grease too , but it is NLGI 2.5 grade ( i.e softer ) as opposed to the usual NLGI 3 grade greases that is standard in our climate . It looks as nice as to be edible . Only shame it is available in 500gm tub and largers packs only .
              For wheel bearings only I use the other castrol grease "premium long life" which is the usual NLGI grade 3 and available in 200gm pouch . I lubed my bike's steering cone bearings with Waxpol Multipurpose AP3 grease ( my long-time fav for general purpose ) last month only , and the bearings feels just superb too . I guess it's just that you took the trouble to grease those bearings up and not what grease you used .
              For your bike's chain , possibly the softer grease you used ( premium formula gel ) is getting into the joints better . But if you oil the chain before you grease it , that would not matter . Then again, since this thing is working well for you - keep using it .
              Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
              The reason I asked is because though there are specific greases for specific purposes, and I appreciate the thoughts, and there are liquid/molten greases and normal greases and this gel based and though I haven't used this Castrol Premium gel, I just wanted to get a thought as it was kinda of a placebo effect.

              Cheers!
              VJ
              Thanks for the clarifications and other details.. Yes you are right the Gel grease's small container is 500gm.. Just asking for knowledge, wil it be goo to use the gel grease in my car or should I stick to the normal grease... If i use normal which one should I opt for??

              And what is this AP3 grease?? Waiting for your valuable feedback...

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              Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
              Castrol's premium formula gel is lithium grease too , but it is NLGI 2.5 grade ( i.e softer ) as opposed to the usual NLGI 3 grade greases that is standard in our climate . It looks as nice as to be edible . Only shame it is available in 500gm tub and largers packs only .
              For wheel bearings only I use the other castrol grease "premium long life" which is the usual NLGI grade 3 and available in 200gm pouch . I lubed my bike's steering cone bearings with Waxpol Multipurpose AP3 grease ( my long-time fav for general purpose ) last month only , and the bearings feels just superb too . I guess it's just that you took the trouble to grease those bearings up and not what grease you used .
              For your bike's chain , possibly the softer grease you used ( premium formula gel ) is getting into the joints better . But if you oil the chain before you grease it , that would not matter . Then again, since this thing is working well for you - keep using it .
              Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
              The reason I asked is because though there are specific greases for specific purposes, and I appreciate the thoughts, and there are liquid/molten greases and normal greases and this gel based and though I haven't used this Castrol Premium gel, I just wanted to get a thought as it was kinda of a placebo effect.

              Cheers!
              VJ
              Thanks for the clarifications and other details.. Yes you are right the Gel grease's small container is 500gm.. Just asking for knowledge, wil it be goo to use the gel grease in my car or should I stick to the normal grease... If i use normal which one should I opt for??

              And what is this AP3 grease?? Waiting for your valuable feedback...

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              • Re: Engine Oils

                Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                Castrol's premium formula gel is lithium grease too , but it is NLGI 2.5 grade ( i.e softer ) as opposed to the usual NLGI 3 grade greases that is standard in our climate . It looks as nice as to be edible . Only shame it is available in 500gm tub and largers packs only .
                For wheel bearings only I use the other castrol grease "premium long life" which is the usual NLGI grade 3 and available in 200gm pouch . I lubed my bike's steering cone bearings with Waxpol Multipurpose AP3 grease ( my long-time fav for general purpose ) last month only , and the bearings feels just superb too . I guess it's just that you took the trouble to grease those bearings up and not what grease you used .
                For your bike's chain , possibly the softer grease you used ( premium formula gel ) is getting into the joints better . But if you oil the chain before you grease it , that would not matter . Then again, since this thing is working well for you - keep using it .
                Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
                Thanks for the clarifications and other details.. Yes you are right the Gel grease's small container is 500gm.. Just asking for knowledge, wil it be goo to use the gel grease in my car or should I stick to the normal grease... If i use normal which one should I opt for??

                And what is this AP3 grease?? Waiting for your valuable feedback...

                Thanks for the clarifications and other details.. Yes you are right the Gel grease's small container is 500gm.. Just asking for knowledge, wil it be goo to use the gel grease in my car or should I stick to the normal grease... If i use normal which one should I opt for??

                And what is this AP3 grease?? Waiting for your valuable feedback...
                Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 12-11-2013, 08:10 PM.
                Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                The girl said, 'NO!'


                And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                THE END

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                • Re: Engine Oils

                  I was curious to share that an engine oil seller recommended me the semi-synth (5100) over the Motul 7100 for my 200NS. I was amazed with his contradiction that "7100 is good that will boost the pick-up and acceleration, but I'll still recommend semi-synth for long runs"? any thoughts over this?

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                  • Re: Engine Oils

                    Originally posted by ns for u View Post
                    I was curious to share that an engine oil seller recommended me the semi-synth (5100) over the Motul 7100 for my 200NS. I was amazed with his contradiction that "7100 is good that will boost the pick-up and acceleration, but I'll still recommend semi-synth for long runs"? any thoughts over this?
                    Its basically related to smoothness, people have reported smoother rides on Pulsars with 5100 than 7100. I am currently using 7100 with P220. Its awesome.
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                    • Re: Engine Oils

                      Originally posted by ns for u View Post
                      I was curious to share that an engine oil seller recommended me the semi-synth (5100) over the Motul 7100 for my 200NS. I was amazed with his contradiction that "7100 is good that will boost the pick-up and acceleration, but I'll still recommend semi-synth for long runs"? any thoughts over this?
                      5100 when it comes to usage terms is an excellent oil and comparatively cheaper than the 7100 and more or less the same drain interval. Both are good oils, and I haven't found any difference whatsover from both. But as strange as it sounds, 5100 and 300V have always been my favorite.

                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                      The girl said, 'NO!'


                      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                      THE END

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                      • Re: Engine Oils

                        Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
                        .... wil it be goo to use the gel grease in my car or should I stick to the normal grease... If i use normal which one should I opt for??

                        And what is this AP3 grease?? Waiting for your valuable feedback ...
                        Generally prefer NLGI 3 grade greases for our warm climate and applications where it is likely to be heated . Manufacturers know about the suitability of the various grades in different climates , so you'll find 99% of them are appropriately grade 3 here . In the US you'd find grade 2 only . Since you already got the 500gm tub , use it up - it is actually a very good grease , consistent , tacky and water resistant . 2.5 vs 3 is ok I think .

                        There is more to greases than grade . The 2nd most important for us being compatibility with various materials and other greases . Greases marked AP means it is all-purpose , i.e it is widely compatible and suitable for general purpose use . 3 is just the NLGI grade . Lithium greases in general is incompatible with sodium greases . Some greases destroy softer rubbers and polymers . While applying grease to an already lubed part , continue using the type that is in there . If you don't know the previous used type or unsure , clean off all old lube with solvent and dry it before fresh greasing .

                        Lubricants USA - Grease Compatibility Chart
                        Last edited by Pinaki; 12-13-2013, 04:42 AM.

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                        • Re: Engine Oils

                          Originally posted by ns for u View Post
                          I was curious to share that an engine oil seller recommended me the semi-synth (5100) over the Motul 7100 for my 200NS. I was amazed with his contradiction that "7100 is good that will boost the pick-up and acceleration, but I'll still recommend semi-synth for long runs"? any thoughts over this?

                          I've used almost most of the Motul oils, and I can vouch for the performance of the 5100 and 7100 too was good, but upgrading to the next level after 5100, 7100 and the like didn't really increase the performance drastically as such. But 7100 is a good FS oil, but for our bikes 5100 is more than suffice. But if you intend to use the 7100 then you can use it absolutely no problem.

                          Cheers!
                          VJ
                          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                          The girl said, 'NO!'


                          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                          THE END

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                          • Re: Engine Oils

                            I am 2500 kms on odo on my pulsar 200ns, And going for an oil change. My options are
                            1. Bajaj-dtsi, 2.Motul 7100 and 3.Mobil1
                            Which one should I go for?
                            ASC do not keep motul 5100.

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                            • Re: Engine Oils

                              Originally posted by skv View Post
                              I am 2500 kms on odo on my pulsar 200ns, And going for an oil change. My options are
                              1. Bajaj-dtsi, 2.Motul 7100 and 3.Mobil1
                              Which one should I go for?
                              ASC do not keep motul 5100.

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                              Bajaj 10000--Just No.

                              Motul 7100 is very expensive ( around Rs.1200) and has similar performance like 5100. If you can't find 5100, other option is yamalube semisynthetic which is same motul 5100.

                              Mobil1 is also expensive and I think it won't fit in recommended grade.

                              Castrol Power1 Racing 10w50 (Rs.700) is very good too. Good for winter season. Reduced vibrations.

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                              • Re: Engine Oils

                                Originally posted by skv View Post
                                I am 2500 kms on odo on my pulsar 200ns, And going for an oil change. My options are
                                1. Bajaj-dtsi, 2.Motul 7100 and 3.Mobil1
                                Which one should I go for?
                                ASC do not keep motul 5100.
                                Sent from my GT-I9082 using Tapatalk
                                Stick to company oil till the bike is under warranty.

                                Originally posted by Lokesh027 View Post
                                Motul 7100 is very expensive ( around Rs.1200)
                                What
                                Mate 7100 is for rs700-750 something and 5100 is for rs550-600 something.
                                Even the Motul 300v is for only around rs900

                                Ride safe and have fun.
                                Regards
                                Nadeem

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