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  • Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
    The oil level should be slightly above the criss-cross mark. Also, try using the same oil and of same grade.

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    Actually there is only shop here that i know of who deals in Motul oils and he didn't had the same oil, not even the SS i bought the mineral one just to fill up and not run with low engine oil. He said to wait till 2nd week of Jan for the stock to come.
    Would it cause any problem, mixing FS and mineral ?

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    • Re: Engine Oils

      Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
      Actually there is only shop here that i know of who deals in Motul oils and he didn't had the same oil, not even the SS i bought the mineral one just to fill up and not run with low engine oil. He said to wait till 2nd week of Jan for the stock to come.
      Would it cause any problem, mixing FS and mineral ?
      Not that much. Since the top up will be of small quantity, it will not be an issue. Good practice is to top up with the same oil, so that we understand how is the oil performing.

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      • Re: Engine Oils

        Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
        Actually there is only shop here that i know of who deals in Motul oils and he didn't had the same oil, not even the SS i bought the mineral one just to fill up and not run with low engine oil. He said to wait till 2nd week of Jan for the stock to come. Would it cause any problem, mixing FS and mineral ?


        If you really want to top up, then you can pretty much fill any other brand too. But please do get your motor thoroughly checked as oil level decreasing this fast is not a good sign.
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        • Re: Engine Oils

          Originally posted by forceedge View Post
          If you really want to top up, then you can pretty much fill any other brand too. But please do get your motor thoroughly checked as oil level decreasing this fast is not a good sign.
          Yes, will do the needful. Thanks
          This had never happened before (till 21xxx kms) where I used only mineral and then I switched to FS.
          Lets hope there isn't any serious problem.

          Ride safe and have fun.
          Regards
          Nadeem

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          • Re: Engine Oils

            Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
            Yes, will do the needful. Thanks
            This had never happened before (till 21xxx kms) where I used only mineral and then I switched to FS.
            Lets hope there isn't any serious problem.
            Probably wrong grade or duplicate... Motul 300V is getting copied... That why Motul has now given a check on their website to check the authenticity of 300V cans. Which bike is this?
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            • Re: Engine Oils

              Originally posted by forceedge View Post
              Probably wrong grade or duplicate... Motul 300V is getting copied... That why Motul has now given a check on their website to check the authenticity of 300V cans. Which bike is this?
              Yamaha FZ-16.
              I can't say anything for sure in this. The ride felt much smoother for sure and still is. But the oil level dropped.

              Ride safe and have fun.
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              • Re: Engine Oils

                It seems you are not following the oil level measurement procedure correctly . Unless you can get an accurate estimate of the oil level it is pointless to worry about things like top-up or oil type etc etc . At the cost of being repetitive -

                after a ride park the bike on main-stand on level ground . Wait for ten mins , then unscrew the dipstick . Wipe the dipstick clean with a clean lint-free cloth . Re insert the dipstick into it's hole until it comes to rest on the threads of the hole , but do not screw it in at all . Withdraw the dipstick out straight and check the level visually . Then wipe it clean with the cloth again and take another two measurements like that . That'll be your oil level .

                If it is low and the oil is not past 3000kms ( for the synthetic oil you used ) , top it up . Use whatever bike oil you may have for the top up , nice if you have some leftover of the same oil that is in there . No sweat if you don't have that and have to use any darn bike oil . If you are stranded somewhere nothing else is to be found , use any darn motor oil , bike or car or whatever . But by all means keep the oil level anywhere between the max and min marks on the dipstick , always .

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                • Re: Engine Oils

                  Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
                  Yamaha FZ-16.
                  I can't say anything for sure in this. The ride felt much smoother for sure and still is. But the oil level dropped.
                  Don't take this post as offensive but, I've experience the same thing with most FZ users, as they fill only 1 Litre of oil, but the manual suggests around 1.2 litre of oil. Overtime, filling less than specified quantity of oil, the oil pump runs dry, and it then has problems in transporting the oil towards the cylinder causing more wear. Hence, there goes your compression which eventually results in oil seeping through the rings/valves into the combustion chamber. Please do try what Sir Pinaki has explained, who knows, you might be lucky enough to get it right.
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                  • Re: Engine Oils

                    Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                    It seems you are not following the oil level measurement procedure correctly.
                    sir, thank you.
                    I didn't knew that the oil level should be checked like this. I always used to check it in the morning before starting the bike. will keep this in mind and try to keep the oil level at the optimum level.

                    Originally posted by forceedge View Post
                    Don't take this post as offensive but, I've experience the same thing with most FZ users, as they fill only 1 Litre of oil, but the manual suggests around 1.2 litre of oil.
                    Ya, I have always serviced at svc and always filled only 1L oil. even I had asked them in the starting that its mentioned 1.2L in the manual, they replied its only 1L and I never asked again.
                    Next time, will get the things done myself and fill-up appropriately.
                    Thank you again.

                    Ride safe and have fun.
                    Regards
                    Nadeem

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                    • Re: Engine Oils

                      Originally posted by forceedge View Post
                      Top up is not recommended & draining period varies with vehicles & what oil you are using.
                      Thanks. That's what I thought, but the top-up discussion in this thread made me wonder.

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                      • Re: Engine Oils

                        Originally posted by forceedge View Post
                        Don't take this post as offensive but, I've experience the same thing with most FZ users, as they fill only 1 Litre of oil, but the manual suggests around 1.2 litre of oil. Overtime, filling less than specified quantity of oil, the oil pump runs dry, and it then has problems in transporting the oil towards the cylinder causing more wear. Hence, there goes your compression which eventually results in oil seeping through the rings/valves into the combustion chamber. Please do try what Sir Pinaki has explained, who knows, you might be lucky enough to get it right.
                        AFAIK, 1.2L is to be filled when you change the oil filter. Using 1L fills the oil upto the brim. But, even after changing the oil filter and filling up with 1L oil, the oil level comes upto brim.

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                        • Re: Engine Oils

                          Any one using hdeo's in your pulsar's. Little help required

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                          • Re: Engine Oils

                            Originally posted by forceedge View Post
                            I've experience the same thing with most FZ users, as they fill only 1 Litre of oil, but the manual suggests around 1.2 litre of oil.
                            I did the top-up and had to put nearly 200-300ml of oil to get to the required level. Isn't that too much ?

                            Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                            AFAIK, 1.2L is to be filled when you change the oil filter. Using 1L fills the oil upto the brim. But, even after changing the oil filter and filling up with 1L oil, the oil level comes upto brim.
                            Exactly, the oil-filter has been replaced every-time, but the oil level comes to the top with only 1L of oil.

                            Ride safe and have fun.
                            Regards
                            Nadeem

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                            • Re: Engine Oils

                              Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
                              I did the top-up and had to put nearly 200-300ml of oil to get to the required level. Isn't that too much ?


                              Exactly, the oil-filter has been replaced every-time, but the oil level comes to the top with only 1L of oil.
                              It doesn't matters if it comes to brim in 1 litre or 1.2 litre. Its all about what are the specs. Those specs are there for a reason. Overfilling and under filling engine oil, both are hazardous. Oil filter is to be changed every time you drain the sump for an oil change. Please do check the oil level as Sir Pinaki has mentioned and check if the level is good or not.

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                              Originally posted by dichkaun View Post
                              Thanks. That's what I thought, but the top-up discussion in this thread made me wonder.
                              You can do the top up, but only in extreme cases and then get the motor checked as soon as possible because eating up/burning up the engine oil is not a feature of 4 Strokes. So as a general rule, The oil level should not drop. Same goes with the Coolant too.
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                              • Re: Engine Oils

                                Originally posted by forceedge View Post
                                It doesn't matters if it comes to brim in 1 litre or 1.2 litre. Its all about what are the specs. Those specs are there for a reason. Overfilling and under filling engine oil, both are hazardous. Oil filter is to be changed every time you drain the sump for an oil change. Please do check the oil level as Sir Pinaki has mentioned and check if the level is good or not.

                                You can do the top up, but only in extreme cases and then get the motor checked as soon as possible because eating up/burning up the engine oil is not a feature of 4 Strokes. So as a general rule, The oil level should not drop. Same goes with the Coolant too.
                                For the first post:

                                How will anyone come to know that the sump is filled fully or not? What specs are you talking about?

                                For second post:

                                Oil level is bound to drop since it lubricates the cylinder walls. So, some amount of oil does burn off. Incase the oil burns quickly than regular, it is an alarming situation. Same goes for coolant also.

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