Engine Oils

[maadyy]

Re: Engine Oils

Any bike consumes some amount of engine oil, let it be old one or a brand new one. One cannot suspect anything wrong just by looking at the engine from outside. White smoke comes when the piston rings have gone kaput and oil seeps in the combustion chamber. So, in your case is wasn't coming. But, this does not mean engine oil is not being consumed. Draining oil earlier than recommended will not mean that engine oil will not be consumed.

If old generation pulsars have such issues (as your friend has told you) it would have been a good practice if you had kept a check at oil level regularly to avois piston block failure

Cheerz!!

hi bro I am suspecting my oil filter to be the culprit.
[MENTION=15693]princesirohi[/MENTION] [MENTION=47074]Divya[/MENTION]-sharan thanks a tonne to you guys for your valuable input. I will update you once I am done with the required changes.

[fahimclm]

Re: Engine Oils

I have pulser 180 cc ug4 with k & n air filter R 1100 which is at 3 service. Iam feelind bad noise from engine. Deos changing engine oil solves the problem.

[B7ACKTHORN]

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I have pulser 180 cc ug4 with k & n air filter R 1100 which is at 3 service. Iam feelind bad noise from engine. Deos changing engine oil solves the problem.

First off, please take a little time to type it down, what you're intending to say in proper format. Pulser, feelind, deos, all makes one look like an ape man who's still honing on tool skills. Please make sure you don't repeat such basic mistakes.

Now to your query, yes engine does play an important role in noise reduction and smoothness of an engine. Secondly, make sure you the proper service schedule is followed, most bikes have issues only after service. Secondly make sure you use the grade, using a lesser grade will over heat and cause harshness.

Cheers!
VJ

[harishkumarko]

Re: Engine Oils

I have pulser 180 cc ug4 with k & n air filter R 1100 which is at 3 service. Iam feelind bad noise from engine. Deos changing engine oil solves the problem.

Throw away that useless K&N filter and revert to stock one. The engine will become far far smoother and sound better.

@all

Filled the Shell Rimula R3X before my trip to Madurai. I am very satisfied with the oil. The bike never heated up much. I was doing 90-110kmph most of the time and yet the bike felt very smooth(unlike running on the stock HH 10W30). Only small glitch was that though the starting was never a problem, the bike's initial idle rpm would go down. I had to set it slightly higher or after I run for about 2 minutes it would become normal. [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir I guess the viscosity is slightly higher than the stock 10W30. I also think that R4 has lesser viscosity because I never faced such a glitch with the R4. And also during this trip the bike would feel smooth even at 110 initially but after riding for about half an hour, the smoothness would go down a bit. But after a break the higher revs will again be smooth. Does this relate to R3X's inferiority to R4?

[ashwanth.r]

Re: Engine Oils

Measuring jars are almost unanimously available in most stores, who sell plastic stuff, or you can ask them
specifically scaled jars such in ML and so forth.

There is no need for a measure while doing oil changes . Infact to avoid errors you should not use any such measure .
Fill oil to correct level by level shown by dipstick . Soak the new filter in fresh engine oil for sometime before you fit it .

Got a plastic mug with ML markings for 19 INR - tested it by pouring 600 ml of Coke. Its fairly correct - more like the Borosil flasks we used in the lab - approximate but not correct to the dot. Guess a oil filter can absorb upto 100 ml of oil - anyway as Pinaki ji says, I will always check the level with the sight glass religiously no matter what "measuring jar" is used.

I see you are from Tamilnadu , and if you are from Chennai, here is the address of Shell Retailer who can give you good
discount.

Duly noted sir! I got my AX-7 from Royapettah once - forgot the name of the shop. A part of Royapettah is full of those auto shops !

May I know the reason for this assumption. As both oils have very similar specs.

Going by the specs, not only are the Delvacs similar to R series of the Shell but even the AX-7/Ultra are similar to the R3X/R4, no? Personally, I would be happier with a mineral/SS than a costly FS (More DIY oil changes = more fun ).

Many thanks for all for replying!

[maadyy]

Re: Engine Oils

I went for a check in 3 SC last evening they confirmed me that oil filter can't be changed but can be cleaned. The SC where I got my piston block changed I asked to make some tappet adjustment,as it was due and was making pretty noise. I told them that my engine is still getting hot after merely traveling for around 10-15 km @70-80kmph. They confirmed me that there won't be any problem now. Well I am observing now the behavior of the engine but it is running good as usual. The strange thing is that no one could confirm me how the engine oil lowered. Anyways lets hope for the best, side glass on the RHS is not good enough to measure the engine oil level so I am again banking upon my short drain interval.

[Divya Sharan]

Re: Engine Oils

I guess the viscosity is slightly higher than the stock 10W30.

Yes, Rimula R3X/R4 are rated 15w40, hence they'd be more viscous than 10w30 naturally.

[devils_friend]

Re: Engine Oils

I went for a check in 3 SC last evening they confirmed me that oil filter can't be changed but can be cleaned. The SC where I got my piston block changed I asked to make some tappet adjustment,as it was due and was making pretty noise. I told them that my engine is still getting hot after merely traveling for around 10-15 km @70-80kmph. They confirmed me that there won't be any problem now. Well I am observing now the behavior of the engine but it is running good as usual. The strange thing is that no one could confirm me how the engine oil lowered. Anyways lets hope for the best, side glass on the RHS is not good enough to measure the engine oil level so I am again banking upon my short drain interval.

Are you on Motul 5100 15W50 oil?

Coming to oil drinking issue by bike, the only thing i can see is leakage thru heads, oil filter or thru drain bolt. Have heard that Pulsars are not happy when SS/FS oil is used and the suckup the oil easily. Looks like the inner hardware of the engine isnt built to be used with SS/FS oil. Maybe that is the reason the recommended oil by Bajaj is Mineral.

Cheerz!!

[maadyy]

Re: Engine Oils

Are you on Motul 5100 15W50 oil?

Coming to oil drinking issue by bike, the only thing i can see is leakage thru heads, oil filter or thru drain bolt. Have heard that Pulsars are not happy when SS/FS oil is used and the suckup the oil easily. Looks like the inner hardware of the engine isnt built to be used with SS/FS oil. Maybe that is the reason the recommended oil by Bajaj is Mineral.

Cheerz!!

Yes bro thats it. I was using 5100 now I have switched back to 3100. Problem is I dont have any dip stick to check the oil level. What I have is a side glass at the RHS of the bike little below the engine. But that also doesn't show the correct amount. So I have to count on short drain interval so that I dont face problem.

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[devils_friend]

Re: Engine Oils

Yes bro thats it. I was using 5100 now I have switched back to 3100. Problem is I dont have any dip stick to check the oil level. What I have is a side glass at the RHS of the bike little below the engine. But that also doesn't show the correct amount. So I have to count on short drain interval so that I dont face problem.

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My experience with 5100 was sour. Had faced many issues with it. Maybe you might have faced the same. The side glass should give you correct oil level since there is no dipstick to check the oil level. Else, how on earth can you check the oil level??

Cheerz!!

[harishkumarko]

Re: Engine Oils

Yes, Rimula R3X/R4 are rated 15w40, hence they'd be more viscous than 10w30 naturally.

Of course divya. But I am confused how I never faced the same issue with R4. Perhaps it is because of the climatic condition.

[B7ACKTHORN]

Re: Engine Oils

Are you on Motul 5100 15W50 oil?

Coming to oil drinking issue by bike, the only thing i can see is leakage thru heads, oil filter or thru drain bolt. Have heard that Pulsars are not happy when SS/FS oil is used and the suckup the oil easily. Looks like the inner hardware of the engine isnt built to be used with SS/FS oil. Maybe that is the reason the recommended oil by Bajaj is Mineral.

Cheerz!!

That's not true, though the hindsight is far from true, hardware in no way hates an engine oil. Almost all hardware likes any oil that it can rub against (if you know what I mean )

But jokes apart, the biggest enemy to an engine oil is not the engine, not the tight tolerances or nor the rider, it's heat. It's heat that the engineers fight almost in any engine oil company, and heat is caused by friction. So how to reduce heat? Reduce friction. But what matters is the right grade, Pulsars unanimously run hot for the most part, and it's aggravated by the wrong choice of oil and poor maintenance.

I've used mineral, ss and fs on most of my bikes, interchanged and I haven't found any problem whatsoever.

Right oil, at the right time, with the right grade, is what makes the difference.

Cheers!
VJ

[devils_friend]

Re: Engine Oils

That's not true, though the hindsight is far from true, hardware in no way hates an engine oil. Almost all hardware likes any oil that it can rub against (if you know what I mean )

But jokes apart, the biggest enemy to an engine oil is not the engine, not the tight tolerances or nor the rider, it's heat. It's heat that the engineers fight almost in any engine oil company, and heat is caused by friction. So how to reduce heat? Reduce friction. But what matters is the right grade, Pulsars unanimously run hot for the most part, and it's aggravated by the wrong choice of oil and poor maintenance.

I've used mineral, ss and fs on most of my bikes, interchanged and I haven't found any problem whatsoever.

Right oil, at the right time, with the right grade, is what makes the difference.

Cheers!
VJ

True that. But, my experience with Motul 5100 wasn't pleasant at all. The fellow xbhpian was also on the same oil. So, i related my experience to his experience.

Cheerz!!

[maadyy]

Re: Engine Oils

True that. But, my experience with Motul 5100 wasn't pleasant at all. The fellow xbhpian was also on the same oil. So, i related my experience to his experience.

Cheerz!!

Dude pulsar is such a bike which has grown up all this years with certain characters like the loudness , typical horn, chain slack issue, bike going towards left or right (stability). I hope every pulsaraian will agree to it . It was anothere veteran pulsaraian who actually suggested me from his experience that SS or FS actually tend to vaporise. But at the same time I will definitely like to mention that there are definitely certain pulsaraians who are exceptional and won't agree to what I had said. Because there are certain things to be considered like riding style or location where the bike is ridden. So i belive the heat is exactly the right thing as mentioned. Since no perfect reason can be traced as a source. It can be certainly traced on the path that I was running reach and when the incident took place I was travelling at around 117kmph. But I have maintained my bike the best possible it can be. So I believe SS or FS is not the right engine oil to fight the heat generated by pulsars. If I am not wrong pulsars posses one of the most stressed engine.

Experts correct me if I am wrong.

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[arjunb25]

Re: Engine Oils

the best oil for pulsar 180 ug4 is moto 4 gold 20w50 my personal experience.