Engine Oils

[kusmaker]

Re: Engine Oils

Many of them suggested me to use 10w 40 !! semi synthetic & are u are suggesting me not to use 10w40

now m confused

The best way of removing confusion is to use this oil 10w40. Go for Motul.

[Infiltrator]

Re: Engine Oils

Don't be confused. Yes, the recommended grade is w30, but it often fails to provide adequate protection in summers at least. Use w40 semi synth without a shadow of a doubt!

i use pulsar 220fs. my friend suggested motul. would one of you recommend a good engine oil? and also the user manual does not mention anything about warranty being void if we change the engine oil brand. please enlighten me on that topic too.

[kusmaker]

Re: Engine Oils

i use pulsar 220fs. my friend suggested motul. would one of you recommend a good engine oil? and also the user manual does not mention anything about warranty being void if we change the engine oil brand. please enlighten me on that topic too.

Definitely this grade is not providing any protection to the vital parts of the engine, go for Motul, bajaj engines works wonderfully better with motul as lots of riders have mentioned here in this forum, how much kms you have covered till date, you can go for fs oil if you have already crossed 10000kms.

[SparKot]

JASO certified 4T Engine Oils of Indian Origin as of 01-May-2014

JASO certified 4T Engine Oils of Indian Origin as of 01-May-2014

1. Thanks @muztariq for pointing out M091 stands for Indian Origin.
2. I prefer a JASO(2011) certified oils over those who just claim it.
3. Motul carries France(M033) & Singapore code (M065) while Yamaha got Japan's (M081) on their oils.

Seq#	JASOSeq#	Oil Brand Name	Submitter Name	JASO Oil Code	JASO Grade	API Grade
1	23	Bajaj DTSI 10000	Bajaj Auto Limited	M091BAL005	MA2	20W-50
2	24	Bajaj DTSSI 10000	Bajaj Auto Limited	M091BAL006	MA2	20W-40
3	34	BALMEROL RACE 4T	Balmer Lawrie & Co. Ltd.	M091BLC003	MA2	20W-40
4	35	BALMEROL SUPER STAR	Balmer Lawrie & Co. Ltd.	M091BLC004	MA2	10W-30
5	36	BALMEROL ECORIDE 4T	Balmer Lawrie & Co. Ltd.	M091BLC005	MA2	20W-40
6	37	BALMEROL BIKER 4T	Balmer Lawrie & Co. Ltd.	M091BLC006	MA2	20W-40
7	38	BALMEROL ROYAL BIKER 4T	Balmer Lawrie & Co. Ltd.	M091BLC007	MA2	15W-50
8	44	MAK 4T NXT	Bharat Petroleum Corpn. Ltd.	M091BPC111	MA2	15W-30
9	138	Nationallube Speedx 4T	Emirates Lube India Private Limited	M091ELI786	MA2	20W-40
10	139	Nationallube Speedx 4T ZIP	Emirates Lube India Private Limited	M091ELI787	MA2	10W-30
11	169	Gulf Pride 4T Plus	Gulf Oil Corporation Limited	M091GOC498	MA2	20W-40
12	170	Gulf Pride 4T Plus	Gulf Oil Corporation Limited	M091GOC499	MA2	10W-30
13	171	Gulf Pride 4T Plus	Gulf Oil Corporation Limited	M091GOC500	MA2	20W-40
14	172	Gulf Pride 4T	Gulf Oil Corporation Limited	M091GOC501	MA	20W-40
15	173	Gulf Pride 4T	Gulf Oil Corporation Limited	M091GOC502	MA	20W-50
16	174	Gulf Pride 4T	Gulf Oil Corporation Limited	M091GOC503	MA2	20W-40
17	175	Gulf Pride 4T	Gulf Oil Corporation Limited	M091GOC504	MA2	20W-50
18	176	Gulf Pride 4T	Gulf Oil Corporation Limited	M091GOC505	MA2	20W-40
19	177	Gulf Pride 4T Plus	Gulf Oil Corporation Limited	M091GOC506	MA2	20W-50
20	194*	Hero Honda Genuine 4T SJ	Honda Motor Co., Ltd.	M091HMC105	MA	10W-30
21	220*	10W30 MB 0.8L	Honda Motor Co., Ltd.	M091HMC160	MB	10W-30
22	243*	10W30 MB 0.8L	Honda Motor Co., Ltd.	M091HMC193	MB	10W-30
23	251*	SJ10W30 MA 0.8L(BPCL)	Honda Motor Co., Ltd.	M091HMC210	MA	10W-30
24	252*	SJ10W30 MB 0.8L	Honda Motor Co., Ltd.	M091HMC211	MB	10W-30
25	254	Hero 4-T Plus	Hero MotoCorp Ltd.	M091HML001	MA	10W-30
26	255	Hero 4-T PLUS	Hero MotoCorp Ltd.	M091HML002	MA	10W-30
27	256	Hero 4-T Plus	Hero MotoCorp Ltd.	M091HML003	MA	10W-30
28	257	HP RACER 4	Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Ltd.	M091HPC405	MA2	20W-40
29	258	HP Racer 4	Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Ltd.	M091HPC406	MA2	20W-40
30	259	HP RACER 4 HEERA	Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Ltd.	M091HPC407	MA	10W-30
31	260	HP RACER 4 SPLENDID	Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Ltd.	M091HPC777	MA	10W-30
32	288	SERVO 4T	Indian Oil Corporation Limited	M091IOC016	MA2	20W-40
33	289	SERVO 4T ZOOM	Indian Oil Corporation Limited	M091IOC017	MA2	20W-40
34	290	SERVO 4T ZOOM SL	Indian Oil Corporation Limited	M091IOC018	MA2	20W-40
35	291	SERVO 4T	Indian Oil Corporation Limited	M091IOC020	MA2	20W-40
36	292	SERVO 4T ZOOM 10W30 SL	Indian Oil Corporation Limited	M091IOC022	MA2	10W-30
37	293	SERVO 4T GOBEN	Indian Oil Corporation Limited	M091IOC026	MA	10W-30
38	294	Servo 4T	Indian Oil Corporation Limited	M091IOC030	MA2	10W-30
39	295	Servo 4T	Indian Oil Corporation Limited	M091IOC031	MA2	20W-40
40	541	Palco	Paras Lubricants Limited	M091PLL136	MA2	10W-30
41	542	Palco	Paras Lubricants Limited	M091PLL141	MA2	20W-40
42	557	MOTOROL MAGIC 4T SPEED	Quebec Petroleum Resource Ltd.	M091QPR001	MA2	20W-40
43	564	Relstar Alpha 4T Ultra 20W50	Reliance Petro Marketing Limited	M091RPL002	MA2	20W-50
44	565	Relstar Alpha 4T Ultra 20W40	Reliance Petro Marketing Limited	M091RPL003	MA2	20W-40
45	584	SAVSOL ULTRA 4T	Savita Oil Technologies Limited	M091SAV001	MA	10W-30
46	585	SAVSOL SUPER 4T	Savita Oil Technologies Limited	M091SAV002	MA	20W-40
47	664	IPOL Speed 4T ECO	Sah Petroleums Ltd.	M091SPL324	MA2	20W-40
48	665	IPOL 4T X'TREME	Sah Petroleums Ltd.	M091SPL413	MA2	10W-30
49	666	IPOL 4T X'CITE	Sah Petroleums Ltd.	M091SPL424	MA2	20W-40
50	667	IPOL 4T X'CELLENT	Sah Petroleums Ltd.	M091SPL513	MA2	10W-30
51	668	IPOL 4T X'cite	Sah Petroleums Ltd.	M091SPL524	MA2	20W-40
52	672	MAGIK 4T	Sterling Lubricants	M091STL010	MA2	20W-40
53	759	TVS TRU4	TVS Motor Company Ltd.	M091TRU001	MA2	20W-40
54	760	TVS TRU4 PREMIUM	TVS Motor Company Ltd.	M091TRU002	MA2	10W-30
55	761	TVS TRU4 PREMIUM	TVS Motor Company Ltd.	M091TRU003	MA2	10W-30
56	762	TVS TRU4 PREMIUM	TVS Motor Company Ltd.	M091TRU004	MA2	10W-30
57	765	Veedol Take-Off 4t Plus	Tide Water Oil Co.(India)Ltd.	M091TWO007	MA2	20W-40
58	766	Veedol Take-Off 4t Plus	Tide Water Oil Co.(India)Ltd.	M091TWO008	MA2	20W-40
59	767	Veedol Take-Off 4t Plus	Tide Water Oil Co.(India)Ltd.	M091TWO009	MA2	20W-40
60	768	Veedol Take-Off 4t Premium	Tide Water Oil Co.(India)Ltd.	M091TWO010	MA2	10W-30
61	769	Veedol Take-Off 4t Plus	Tide Water Oil Co.(India)Ltd.	M091TWO011	MA2	20W-40
62	772	Valvoline Champ 4T	Valvoline Cummins Ltd.	M091VCL365	MA2	20W-40
63	773	Valvoline 4T Premium	Valvoline Cummins Ltd.	M091VCL366	MA2	20W-50
64	774	Valvoline Champ 4T	Valvoline Cummins Ltd.	M091VCL417	MA2	10W-30
65	775	Valvoline SynPower 4T	Valvoline Cummins Ltd.	M091VCL504	MA	10W-30
66	776	Valvoline Champ 4T	Valvoline Cummins Ltd.	M091VCL539	MA2	20W-40
67	777	Valvoline Champion 4T	Valvoline Cummins Ltd.	M091VCL540	MA2	20W-40
68	778	Champ 4T	Valvoline Cummins Ltd.	M091VCL565	MA2	20W-40
69	779	Scooter Champ	Valvoline Cummins Ltd.	M091VCL567	MB	20W-40

* I don't know what they mean in the JASO document.

PS: New list is out as of 01-Jun-2014

http://jalos.or.jp/onfile/pdf/4T_EV_LIST.pdf

[Infiltrator]

Re: Engine Oils

Definitely this grade is not providing any protection to the vital parts of the engine, go for Motul, bajaj engines works wonderfully better with motul as lots of riders have mentioned here in this forum, how much kms you have covered till date, you can go for fs oil if you have already crossed 10000kms.

i have covered 1400km. last oile was changed at 950km. i will probably wait till the next prescribed service. i,e. 4500~5000km and change it to motul. then again voiding warrnty is still a worry.

[kusmaker]

Re: Engine Oils

i have covered 1400km. last oile was changed at 950km. i will probably wait till the next prescribed service. i,e. 4500~5000km and change it to motul. then again voiding warrnty is still a worry.

Go for Motul ss oil till you clock 8 or 9000kms and then switch to FS oils.

[Infiltrator]

Re: Engine Oils

Go for Motul ss oil till you clock 8 or 9000kms and then switch to FS oils.

thank you.

[Divyanshp150]

Re: Engine Oils

how good is bajaj engine oil? its refill and replacement is claimed at 5,000km.

One word, rubbish, when compared to the likes of motul, shell, mobil1 etc.
Its better than lal ghoda engine oil...and fake castrols.

Many of them suggested me to use 10w 40 !! semi synthetic & are u are suggesting me not to use 10w40

now m confused

For an ignitor or any hero bike right now, 10w40 in summers is your best friend, best oil that almost every hero owner loves? Shell advance ax7 10w40,
You get motul fs oils in w30 as well.

i use pulsar 220fs. my friend suggested motul. would one of you recommend a good engine oil? and also the user manual does not mention anything about warranty being void if we change the engine oil brand. please enlighten me on that topic too.

i have covered 1400km. last oile was changed at 950km. i will probably wait till the next prescribed service. i,e. 4500~5000km and change it to motul. then again voiding warrnty is still a worry.

Warrenty is void if you use any other oil, yet some svcs allow you to get your own oil, ask them about if, if not let them pour in the dtsi, use it for 300 to 500km and drain, then add the oil you like, for example motul.
Now use this oil and go for regular service let them drain motul oil (I doubt they will check if the drained black shit is motul or dtsi oil.)
Repeat!
This method gives you more flexibility on your oil choices and sort of acts like a non detrimental regular engine flush thats good for your bike in the long run,
Unfortunately its a wee bit expensive and time taking.
I just told a 200ns owner the same thing on the 200ns ownership thread.

Ps:- use a moneral or ss oil like motul 3000, 3100 or 5100 till all free services are exhausted then shift to an fs oil or stick with the 5100!
Try any other brand as well if you like them!
Clean centrifugal filter every 5 k kms or so during your oil change if you havent done so already. Labour expenses plus 22rs for clutch cover gasket.


Sorry for the long post guys


divyansh....

[Divyanshp150]

Re: Engine Oils

@ sparkot,
Vw svc guy asked me to bring a sample (50 to 150ml) in a sealed container, he will request his seniors for it!
If allowed il have to pay 400rs
Seeams a little steep but if allowed il go for it once.
Only issue is they dont give customers the report for the oil analysis even for the car, its only 'for there data bases and for vehicle ecu map readjustments and services' (longish confusing quote by the svc fellow)..
Lets see I will ask him again on friday.

Good oil mixing calci and brand oil certification info there

Ot:- vw guys take 4 weeks to fix a cars dents (minor), service it and clean it up:banghead:
We say bajaj and tvs and honda service is slow and crap!
This makes me love my bike even more!:sly:
divyansh....

[SparKot]

Re: Engine Oils

...
if not let them pour in the dtsi, use it for 300 to 500km and drain, then add the oil you like, for example motul.
Now use this oil and go for regular service let them drain motul oil (I doubt they will check if the drained black shit is motul or dtsi oil.)
Repeat! ...

+1
That's a rational approach; similar thoughts here.

@ sparkot,
Vw svc guy asked me to bring a sample (50 to 150ml) in a sealed container, he will request his seniors for it! If allowed il have to pay 400rs
Seeams a little steep but if allowed il go for it once.
Only issue is they dont give customers the report for the oil analysis even for the car, its only 'for there data bases and for vehicle ecu map readjustments and services' (longish confusing quote by the svc fellow)..
Lets see I will ask him again on friday.

- If I remember correctly, western counterparts (esp Blackstone labs) charges $25/-(₹ 1500/-) & additional $10/- for TAN/TBN readings.
- Sample size for Blackstone labs was/is 90ml.
- Let's hope the report is worth ₹ 400/- (fingers crossed)

I'm sure others will jump in eventually.

Good oil mixing calci and brand oil certification info there

I did a site-rip of that site using a spider/crawler; it dumped a ≈300 MB folder on my system overnight. Most of the content is in Spanish .

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@Divyanshp150

Uploading a report for your reference:




Discussion regarding this report:
Motul 300V - 2012 Sukuki DL650 VStrom | Used Oil Analysis - Motorcycle | Bob Is The Oil Guy

You can ask your friend if the report they give out is as informative as above. If it is not then drop the idea & save 400/-

[Divyanshp150]

Re: Engine Oils

@ sparkot i have downloaded the report you posted,
Man thats cool!
Lets see if they do it.
Will be kind of cool,
Blood test report cool!

divyansh....

[kusmaker]

Re: Engine Oils

Does every VW centre have this facility.

[Divyanshp150]

Re: Engine Oils

Does every VW centre have this facility.

I ought to believe so my friend
But I am not sure brothere the one here does.
divyansh....

[kusmaker]

Re: Engine Oils

@ sparkot,
Vw svc guy asked me to bring a sample (50 to 150ml) in a sealed container, he will request his seniors for it!
If allowed il have to pay 400rs
Seeams a little steep but if allowed il go for it once.
Only issue is they dont give customers the report for the oil analysis even for the car, its only 'for there data bases and for vehicle ecu map readjustments and services' (longish confusing quote by the svc fellow)..
Lets see I will ask him again on friday.

Good oil mixing calci and brand oil certification info there

Ot:- vw guys take 4 weeks to fix a cars dents (minor), service it and clean it up:banghead:
We say bajaj and tvs and honda service is slow and crap!
This makes me love my bike even more!:sly:
divyansh....

Man than what's the point if they are not even showing the report to the owner, just 4 weeks to fix a car dent wow! what a service provided by one of the biggest car manufacturers, when it comes to India every company learns very quickly that there is no need to hurry here or provide service like they provide outside India.

[Saurabh213]

Re: Engine Oils

Can you give detail address of janak puri and karol bagh.

Detail Address Of The Shops ?