Engine Oils

[AbhiAvvy13]

Re: Shifting from Mineral engine oil to Semi synthetic engine oil

My 2 cents: First of all, your 2000 km drain interval is apt for a mineral oil and that itself negates the need for a flush. Also, your engine is just 15k run. Mineral/SS/FS oils are all compatible with one another and there is no need for a flush if you want to change from one to the another. SS oil is almost 70-75% mineral oil only, I suggest you stay with mineral if you are planning to stick with 2k drain intervals (Many people here, e.g. Divya Sharan, use mineral oil, tour extensively and change the oil at 1800-2000 kms). Flush as you said, has many chemicals that might be harmful and a 15k bike doesn't need it. Conclusion: No flush. Mineral/SS okay with 2000-3000 kms drain interval+little long touring.

Thank you brother for your suggestion. Your comment has cleared my confusion.

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I have been using mineral oils on all my bikes since ages-shifted to Semi synthetic Valvoline 4T since 2015-@rs370/ltr it's around 50% costlier than the mineral oils i used earlier-but the BENEFIT is that Valvoline is an SN grade oil-much higher the the routine SL grade mineral oils-which means it maintains its properties longer.With mineral oils(20W50 for both my RD350 and Avenger220),i used to keep the drain interval same as your-2000-2200kms but with the Valvoline i change it at 3000-3200kms so the costing comes the same.
Do try this oil for its added smoothness and longer lasting lubricity and feel the difference in smoothness.

Ok brother. Thank you for your suggestion.
As you are a avenger owner I have one extra question for you.
Avenger needs 1.2 liter oil and for that reason I had to buy 2 bottle(Each 1 liter). Now that 2nd bottle, if kept securely, for how long can it be used safely from the date of manufacturing(As there is no date of expire is mentioned in the bottle)?

[Pinaki]

Re: Shifting from Mineral engine oil to Semi synthetic engine oil

.. Now that 2nd bottle, if kept securely, for how long can it be used safely from the date of manufacturing(As there is no date of expire is mentioned in the bottle)?

5 years at least . Keep cap tight and store in cool dark place indoors .

[AbhiAvvy13]

Re: Shifting from Mineral engine oil to Semi synthetic engine oil

5 years at least . Keep cap tight and store in cool dark place indoors .

Ok. Thank you brother for this information.

[zestbiker]

Re: Shifting from Mineral engine oil to Semi synthetic engine oil

Thank you brother for your suggestion. Your comment has cleared my confusion.

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Ok brother. Thank you for your suggestion.
As you are a avenger owner I have one extra question for you.
Avenger needs 1.2 liter oil and for that reason I had to buy 2 bottle(Each 1 liter). Now that 2nd bottle, if kept securely, for how long can it be used safely from the date of manufacturing(As there is no date of expire is mentioned in the bottle)?

There is a surprise for you-if you change the engine oil in front of yourself with a mechanic's help,you will fill only 950ml-1ltr oil in your Avenger220 and the oil will reach the upper level mark on the oil window.Try it to believe it.

[AbhiAvvy13]

Re: Shifting from Mineral engine oil to Semi synthetic engine oil

There is a surprise for you-if you change the engine oil in front of yourself with a mechanic's help,you will fill only 950ml-1ltr oil in your Avenger220 and the oil will reach the upper level mark on the oil window.Try it to believe it.

Recently changed the engine oil. But it gulped 1.2l to reach the perfect mark.

[zestbiker]

Re: Shifting from Mineral engine oil to Semi synthetic engine oil

Recently changed the engine oil. But it gulped 1.2l to reach the perfect mark.

Looks like you completely filled the oil window!

[abkumar]

Re: Engine Oils

Hello Everyone !

Could you please recommend me an engine oil for my Honda Unicorn Dazzler . Currently using Honda Genuine oil 10w30. I want to rev it faster and performance.

[Suraj200]

Re: Engine Oils

Hello Everyone !

Could you please recommend me an engine oil for my Honda Unicorn Dazzler . Currently using Honda Genuine oil 10w30. I want to rev it faster and performance.

You can go with the MOTUL full synthetic which is used for the KTM's and HD's(not sure) 1 ltr cost around 700 to 800 bucks

[eternoMind]

Re: Engine Oils

Like a few guys from here, I too had bought a couple of bottles of Shell Advanced Ultra FS 10W40 a few months ago via one of Amazon's Lightning Deal offers. Ever since I had bought the bike from its first owner, I stuck to Castrol Power One SS with 2000KM draining intervals. So this Shell oil was the first time I tried an FS oil. Yesterday, I drained that oil after a little over 4000KM on it. Most of the riding was normal city driving with just one high-speed ride of 350KM during that period. The drained oil wouldn't have amounted to more than 400-500ml. Yes, I am confident about the oil having emptied completely because I rode the bike around for 5-10 minutes before going to my mechanic to change it and he does a thorough job while changing too. I felt this was too less oil and it was pretty burnt up(scroll down a bit for the pic) as well. I started checking the oil levels through the oil window after the 2.5K KM mark and it was stable between the min and max marks. However, I do not like the look of this drained oil.

I filled in the second can of the same oil yesterday and will drain this one around the 2.5-3K KM mark. Post that, I am contemplating going back to 10W40 or 20W40 SS or mineral oil (brand not decided yet) over a FS oil. Most of my riding is still in the city where I barely cross the 5K RPM mark. Normal city rides to spirited long rides ratio is about 4:1. Even in case of above average (say 2:1 ratio) long rides, an SS or mineral oil should last 2K I guess.

Coming to my experience with the Shell, I'd say it's nothing special. There was no perceivable difference for me when I switched from Castrol Power One SS, which cost around half the price of the Shell. If anything, the bike seemed all the more eager and non-sluggish with the earlier oil. This is not to say that the Shell caused sluggishness. It is perfectly alright but nothing exceptional. My shifts were always smooth thanks to regular oiling so no credits to the Shell there either. Go for it if you like but do not expect miracles. And no matter what is advertised/believed, drop an FS oil at around the 3K KM mark. If you find that too expensive, just stick to regular SS or mineral oils. I'll report my experience with this second can of the Shell in the coming months. Since I'll be going on a 1.5-2K KM long ride soon, will need to drop the Shell oil may be by next month itself.

[Aakash Singh]

Re: Engine Oils

Please any one suggest between 15w40 and 15w50, for fzs.
I live in delhi the temperature is around 40-50 celsius during summer and traffic was high.
I have read many posts on xbhp, and it did nothing but confused me, some says using 15w40 will result in wear as the temperature was high and lubricant will become thin, and other says 15w50 will be very thick and result in wear in long term and engine will loose power or it will feel slugish while thrashing through traffic. So it's like 50% for both.

[D.j]

Re: Engine Oils

Please any one suggest between 15w40 and 15w50, for fzs.
I live in delhi the temperature is around 40-50 celsius during summer and traffic was high.
I have read many posts on xbhp, and it did nothing but confused me, some says using 15w40 will result in wear as the temperature was high and lubricant will become thin, and other says 15w50 will be very thick and result in wear in long term and engine will loose power or it will feel slugish while thrashing through traffic. So it's like 50% for both.

Aakash,

I think for fz the grade used was 15w50 SS .. In my opinion yamalube 15w50SS was the best engine oil . Now Yamaha has stopped this oil in india .
However you can order it online on http://indiaspares.in/yamalube3.html
I have a 2010 model FZ-S .

Like a few guys from here, I too had bought a couple of bottles of Shell Advanced Ultra FS 10W40 a few months ago via one of Amazon's Lightning Deal offers. Ever since I had bought the bike from its first owner, I stuck to Castrol Power One SS with 2000KM draining intervals. So this Shell oil was the first time I tried an FS oil. Yesterday, I drained that oil after a little over 4000KM on it. Most of the riding was normal city driving with just one high-speed ride of 350KM during that period. The drained oil wouldn't have amounted to more than 400-500ml. Yes, I am confident about the oil having emptied completely because I rode the bike around for 5-10 minutes before going to my mechanic to change it and he does a thorough job while changing too. I felt this was too less oil and it was pretty burnt up(scroll down a bit for the pic) as well. I started checking the oil levels through the oil window after the 2.5K KM mark and it was stable between the min and max marks. However, I do not like the look of this drained oil.

I filled in the second can of the same oil yesterday and will drain this one around the 2.5-3K KM mark. Post that, I am contemplating going back to 10W40 or 20W40 SS or mineral oil (brand not decided yet) over a FS oil. Most of my riding is still in the city where I barely cross the 5K RPM mark. Normal city rides to spirited long rides ratio is about 4:1. Even in case of above average (say 2:1 ratio) long rides, an SS or mineral oil should last 2K I guess.

Coming to my experience with the Shell, I'd say it's nothing special. There was no perceivable difference for me when I switched from Castrol Power One SS, which cost around half the price of the Shell. If anything, the bike seemed all the more eager and non-sluggish with the earlier oil. This is not to say that the Shell caused sluggishness. It is perfectly alright but nothing exceptional. My shifts were always smooth thanks to regular oiling so no credits to the Shell there either. Go for it if you like but do not expect miracles. And no matter what is advertised/believed, drop an FS oil at around the 3K KM mark. If you find that too expensive, just stick to regular SS or mineral oils. I'll report my experience with this second can of the Shell in the coming months. Since I'll be going on a 1.5-2K KM long ride soon, will need to drop the Shell oil may be by next month itself.

EternoMind,
I would recommend 15w50SS for our FZ . For me Yamalube 15w50 SS gives a butter smooth ride and performance.
You can get it online http://indiaspares.in/yamalube3.html or can also try motul 5100 15w50 SS.
I am thinking now of ordering 2-3 bottles from this website for my FZ and R15v2 . For me Yamalube Sporty premium 10w40 is not that good on R15 so will be sticking to SS .

[eternoMind]

Re: Engine Oils

[MENTION=81388]D.j[/MENTION] thank you for the reply and sorry if I led you into believing that my bike was an FZ. I ride a Suzuki GS150R. I'll mostly go with Gulf the next time I change the oil as it seems to have a good following on this thread. Just wanted to share my views on using the Shell.

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Please any one suggest between 15w40 and 15w50, for fzs.
I live in delhi the temperature is around 40-50 celsius during summer and traffic was high.
I have read many posts on xbhp, and it did nothing but confused me, some says using 15w40 will result in wear as the temperature was high and lubricant will become thin, and other says 15w50 will be very thick and result in wear in long term and engine will loose power or it will feel slugish while thrashing through traffic. So it's like 50% for both.

Why don't you just stick to the manufacturer recommended grades for the FZ. For a bike whose recommended engine oil grade is xW40, xW50 should work fine if prevailing temperatures are that high. Here's a quick snapshot of what my bike's UM says about usable engine oil grades (recommended one is 20W40);

[D.j]

Re: Engine Oils

[QUOTE=eternoMind;1230699][MENTION=81388]D.j[/MENTION] thank you for the reply and sorry if I led you into believing that my bike was an FZ. I ride a Suzuki GS150R. I'll mostly go with Gulf the next time I change the oil as it seems to have a good following on this thread. Just wanted to share my views on using the Shell.

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Sorry bro,
No idea about GS150r [emoji17] . But yes heard good feedback about gulf engine oils.

[Aakash Singh]

Re: Engine Oils

@D.j thank you for the reply and sorry if I led you into believing that my bike was an FZ. I ride a Suzuki GS150R. I'll mostly go with Gulf the next time I change the oil as it seems to have a good following on this thread. Just wanted to share my views on using the Shell.

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Why don't you just stick to the manufacturer recommended grades for the FZ. For a bike whose recommended engine oil grade is xW40, xW50 should work fine if prevailing temperatures are that high. Here's a quick snapshot of what my bike's UM says about usable engine oil grades (recommended one is 20W40);

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Some people says in manual 20w50 is recommended but when i read the manual that came with bike it says only 20w40 is recommended. May be the newer version of manual has included 20w50.

[eternoMind]

Re: Engine Oils

Some people says in manual 20w50 is recommended but when i read the manual that came with bike it says only 20w40 is recommended. May be the newer version of manual has included 20w50.

Stick to the oil grade recommended in YOUR manual. The one that came with the bike. Disregard any changes that might or might not have been made in the user manuals of newer models.