Engine Oils

[Pinak-the stunner]

Re: Engine Oils

Car engine oil has friction modifiers since engine oil is different and transmission oil is different. Car engine oil in bike causes clutch to slip.

Modern scooters have separate gear oil. So logically car engine oil may be used in scooters. Am I correct?

[ashwanth.r]

Re: Engine Oils

Modern scooters have separate gear oil. So logically car engine oil may be used in scooters. Am I correct?

Yes ! But I don't know if they add anything special in a scooter/motorcycle oil to withstand the extra heat.

[keith_j_snyder2]

Engine Oil recommendation for Apache 150 2006 model.

Hello fellow biwheelers(is that a thing?)!

I am looking to change engine oil for my 2006 Apache 150 clocked 60K. So far I have been using whatever my service guy recommend but I recently changed the city.
Now so far I have shortlisted 2 oils (read from our beloved forum) are Motul 5100 15W50 and Shell advance AX7 10W40(my pick so far since it's cheap).
While I m not picking Castrol as I heard there is a duplicates issues with it but can u please suggest me any other oil apart from AX7 for my bike.

Also I read that if ur switching from mineral to semi/synthetic oil then u need to use the engine flush solvent before that. If that's the case please suggest me few options too(not too expensive).

My runs nowadays are NH1 & here is Northern region things are getting colder now.
Please share ur recommendations/guidance.

[emoji120]


P.S- I clocked a milage of 62kmpl from my bike 3 days ago without any settings change. [emoji16]

[sancreation]

Re: Engine Oils

Modern scooters have separate gear oil. So logically car engine oil may be used in scooters. Am I correct?

Yes but car engine oil is optimised for cars and bike engine oil is optimised for bikes.
Company's dump millions of rupees for resurching and development.
They know more than you and I know.
So it's better to stick with manufacturer's recommendation.

[hemanta]

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Hi guys.. Can I mix motul 7100 10w40 and yamalube FS 10w40 for my FZ25?

[Srvn]

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Hi guys.. Can I mix motul 7100 10w40 and yamalube FS 10w40 for my FZ25?

I'd not recommend doing so, since these two are different brands and being a FS, they might have varied quantities and types of additives in them and 'might' have undesirable effects on the motorcycle. IMHO you could mix an FS from different brand with a Mineral from a different one if need be.

Cheers
Srvn

[hemanta]

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Thank you srvn

[vkuchhal]

Re: Engine Oils

Hi All,

A word of caution for people using ninja 250 (2009 -2012) on using of motul 7100 20W 50 grade, after around 4500kms + the engine oil quantity decreases drastically from 1.7lts to 1.2 lts as of burning of oil and a regular topup is required time and again.

I raised the same issue to the Motul facebook page to know if they are aware of the issue and any recommendation on the same, to which i got a call back, with the tecnical person suggested me to change the grade of oil from 20W50 to 10W40, just as a recommendation ( not sure why he was doing it, even he was not aware of it. ).

I have even heard other ninja 250 users faced the same problem with fully synthetic oil and read similar thread on pulsar 220. ( May be a ester Issue).

Just wanted to check with other 7100 & 300V users of the issues faced by them.??

PS: i for my use would not go for motul fully sysnthetic again. may be time to shift to shell.

[Pinaki]

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Modern scooters have separate gear oil. So logically car engine oil may be used in scooters. Am I correct?

Yes . Absolutely no problem in it . Only make sure that the car oil used is of same grade (i.e 10w30 or 10w40 etc ) . You can even use the same car oil in the scooter gearbox . Because the ability to use any any automotive oil in these scooters is because it has a dry clutch , not because of the separate gearbox .

Hi guys.. Can I mix motul 7100 10w40 and yamalube FS 10w40 for my FZ25?

Yes you can mix , no problem .

... since these two are different brands and being a FS, they might have varied quantities and types of additives in them and 'might' have undesirable effects ...

Whenever we drain engine oil in a motorcycle, some of the old oil remains inside the engine . This old oil mixes with the freshly poured in oil . Motorcycle oil manufacturer is aware of this and they would not want anyone adopting their oil product ( from using another brand / grade etc previously ) to have problem from the mixing . So ALL motorcycle oils are necessarily made safe for mixing with others , irrespective of grade, brand or mineral/synthetic etc .

[suj]

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Hi All,

A word of caution for people using ninja 250 (2009 -2012) on using of motul 7100 20W 50 grade, after around 4500kms + the engine oil quantity decreases drastically from 1.7lts to 1.2 lts as of burning of oil and a regular topup is required time and again.

I raised the same issue to the Motul facebook page to know if they are aware of the issue and any recommendation on the same, to which i got a call back, with the tecnical person suggested me to change the grade of oil from 20W50 to 10W40, just as a recommendation ( not sure why he was doing it, even he was not aware of it. ).

I have even heard other ninja 250 users faced the same problem with fully synthetic oil and read similar thread on pulsar 220. ( May be a ester Issue).

Just wanted to check with other 7100 & 300V users of the issues faced by them.??

PS: i for my use would not go for motul fully sysnthetic again. may be time to shift to shell.

I have not faced the issue that u have mentioned....I use 7100 10w40 on my apache 180 from past 2 years....since apache has got air cooled engine I change oil every 3000-3500 km....I often check the oil level every 500km...

[Hiteshb]

Re: Engine Oils

Hi All,

A word of caution for people using ninja 250 (2009 -2012) on using of motul 7100 20W 50 grade, after around 4500kms + the engine oil quantity decreases drastically from 1.7lts to 1.2 lts as of burning of oil and a regular topup is required time and again.

I raised the same issue to the Motul facebook page to know if they are aware of the issue and any recommendation on the same, to which i got a call back, with the tecnical person suggested me to change the grade of oil from 20W50 to 10W40, just as a recommendation ( not sure why he was doing it, even he was not aware of it. ).

I have even heard other ninja 250 users faced the same problem with fully synthetic oil and read similar thread on pulsar 220. ( May be a ester Issue).

Just wanted to check with other 7100 & 300V users of the issues faced by them.??

PS: i for my use would not go for motul fully sysnthetic again. may be time to shift to shell.

I use 7100 in my RS for almost 2 years,Earlier also I used it in Avenger 180, Never faced such problem.
Aside,Beware of some online sellers,noticed some sale duplicates-Even on Amazon at discount.So I prefer offline purchase from local stores.
You should stick to service manual for selecting oil grade-I think it is 10W40 for Ninja250 as you stated.

[ashwinprakas]

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Hope this helps the decisive buyer.

Personally I'd any day opt for a higher flash point since long distance touring/commuting is my preferred means of motorcycling.

[Pinak-the stunner]

Re: Engine Oils

[QUOTE=Pinaki;1321972]Yes . Absolutely no problem in it . Only make sure that the car oil used is of same grade (i.e 10w30 or 10w40 etc ) . You can even use the same car oil in the scooter gearbox . Because the ability to use any any automotive oil in these scooters is because it has a dry clutch , not because of the separate gearbox .

Svc uses motul 8100 5W40 FS oil in Aprilia SR 150 which is basically a car engine oil. Hence the confusion and query.

[suj]

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[QUOTE=Pinak-the stunner;1323025]

Yes . Absolutely no problem in it . Only make sure that the car oil used is of same grade (i.e 10w30 or 10w40 etc ) . You can even use the same car oil in the scooter gearbox . Because the ability to use any any automotive oil in these scooters is because it has a dry clutch , not because of the separate gearbox .

Svc uses motul 8100 5W40 FS oil in Aprilia SR 150 which is basically a car engine oil. Hence the confusion and query.

My only concern is that scooter engine are high revving when compared with car engine..foaming of oil may occur I guess..

[Muzawwir_51015]

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How about the Mobil super 4T 20w50 for apache rtr 180 ???