Engine Oils

[AP_SF]

Re: Engine Oils

Anyways you should change engine oil after 4000 kms. And if the bike is 310 cc. He must be revving high. Also the torque generation shall require high rpm around 10000 may be. I am regularly using Motul 7100 10w40 for CBR 150 from last 4 years, which hardly last 4000 kms. My daily commute is 50 kms and in Mumbai's heavy traffic.

Thanks for the suggestion. Sadly I dont rev very high all the time because I get my sweet spot of power and speed in just below 5k rpm, so I never needed to rev high to enjoy.
I do agree about changing the oil at sooner intervals though, even I think TVS's suggested 10,000 kms for RR 310 that too on Motul 3000 4t plus mineral oil is bit of a stretch.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

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300v is a racing engine oil. It is designed to provide best performance over a short interval. It is not that it must not be used but its life is just one half or one third of 7100. If is good for someone who keeps the bike at high RPMs and ready to change oil every 2000 or 4000 kms (in air and liquid cooled bikes respectively).

Rightly said.

[Greymatter]

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Guys, am gonna take my Dominar for 1st servicing at 500 KM this Monday. If am not wrong then Bajaj SC will use 10W50 FS oil made by Total. Now, just to be on a safer side I would like to drain and pour fresh oil again at 1000 KM. Now, I've access to two cans of Valvoline 20W50 Premium SS API SN Oil so can I directly use them or I'll need to flush engine and install new oil filter as am using a different grade?

[Vipergts07]

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Guys, am gonna take my Dominar for 1st servicing at 500 KM this Monday. If am not wrong then Bajaj SC will use 10W50 FS oil made by Total. Now, just to be on a safer side I would like to drain and pour fresh oil again at 1000 KM. Now, I've access to two cans of Valvoline 20W50 Premium SS API SN Oil so can I directly use them or I'll need to flush engine and install new oil filter as am using a different grade?

Would recommend sticking to the bajaj oil atleast for the period of free services for warranty's sake. Even post that, most domi owners seem to like the Bajaj oil. Motul doesn't agree with some domis. Bajaj oil seems to work well till 5k+- kms roundabout. Flushing is not required for every oil change even with a grade change for a new vehicle. Once a year is more than sufficient same as injector cleaner. Is 20w50 recommended for domi anyway? The clutch/engine will be more sticky due to more viscosity. Please have a look at the viscosity table of 10w50 and 20w50. During summer 20w shouldn't matter too much. But stick to 10w for rest of the year.

[ashwanth.r]

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Is 20w50 recommended for domi anyway?

Bajaj recommends it's own 10W-50 for Dominar. That bottle claims it is 'fully synthetic'.

[sanjeet286]

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Would recommend sticking to the bajaj oil atleast for the period of free services for warranty's sake. Even post that, most domi owners seem to like the Bajaj oil. Motul doesn't agree with some domis. Bajaj oil seems to work well till 5k+- kms roundabout. Flushing is not required for every oil change even with a grade change for a new vehicle. Once a year is more than sufficient same as injector cleaner. Is 20w50 recommended for domi anyway? The clutch/engine will be more sticky due to more viscosity. Please have a look at the viscosity table of 10w50 and 20w50. During summer 20w shouldn't matter too much. But stick to 10w for rest of the year.

Warranty for the Domi is 30k or 2yrs. So for warranty sake, use the Bajaj oil for that duration. If you don't care about the warranty, then you can change it.

FYI - the jury is still out on whether Bajaj oil is mandatory for the warranty but few rides in BLR ran into trouble while claiming it.

[Throttlefreak]

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Guys, am gonna take my Dominar for 1st servicing at 500 KM this Monday. If am not wrong then Bajaj SC will use 10W50 FS oil made by Total. Now, just to be on a safer side I would like to drain and pour fresh oil again at 1000 KM. Now, I've access to two cans of Valvoline 20W50 Premium SS API SN Oil so can I directly use them or I'll need to flush engine and install new oil filter as am using a different grade?

The international manual doesn't specify any brand of engine oil. Some owners have changed to Motul from the SVC itself. I myself have changed to Motul 7100 10w50 after the second service(did the oil change at home). The difference is radical and is felt precisely in the 4.5k to 5k rpm range which is known for the infamous vibes. The choice to change is yours but maintain the viscosity rating unless the ambient temperature is very high.

[B7ACKTHORN]

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Guys, am gonna take my Dominar for 1st servicing at 500 KM this Monday. If am not wrong then Bajaj SC will use 10W50 FS oil made by Total. Now, just to be on a safer side I would like to drain and pour fresh oil again at 1000 KM. Now, I've access to two cans of Valvoline 20W50 Premium SS API SN Oil so can I directly use them or I'll need to flush engine and install new oil filter as am using a different grade?

Remember this. Flushes aren't required always or every time once one changes the oil. Flushes are required for old engines or engines that have been run over 20k plus. Even at this, flushes are recommended to use only once and not every time. See, oil itself gives a sort of protection layer inside the engine parts which is vital. Flushing each time removes this sort of mild layer that is vital.

The oil sold by Bajaj Under the 10000 was literally snakeoil that had a best life of 2k max which was manufactured by HP. The newer ones made by Total and good, being fully synthetic they can be extended to 1000 kays more from the 2k. You can use both oils with no problem whatsoever, and no flushing is required. One thing to keep in mind, in case you top-up, make sure you the save Valvoline oil and the same grade.

Cheers!
VJ

[Greymatter]

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Would recommend sticking to the bajaj oil atleast for the period of free services for warranty's sake. Even post that, most domi owners seem to like the Bajaj oil. Motul doesn't agree with some domis. Bajaj oil seems to work well till 5k+- kms roundabout. Flushing is not required for every oil change even with a grade change for a new vehicle. Once a year is more than sufficient same as injector cleaner. Is 20w50 recommended for domi anyway? The clutch/engine will be more sticky due to more viscosity. Please have a look at the viscosity table of 10w50 and 20w50. During summer 20w shouldn't matter too much. But stick to 10w for rest of the year.

Warranty for the Domi is 30k or 2yrs. So for warranty sake, use the Bajaj oil for that duration. If you don't care about the warranty, then you can change it.

FYI - the jury is still out on whether Bajaj oil is mandatory for the warranty but few rides in BLR ran into trouble while claiming it.

The international manual doesn't specify any brand of engine oil. Some owners have changed to Motul from the SVC itself. I myself have changed to Motul 7100 10w50 after the second service(did the oil change at home). The difference is radical and is felt precisely in the 4.5k to 5k rpm range which is known for the infamous vibes. The choice to change is yours but maintain the viscosity rating unless the ambient temperature is very high.

Remember this. Flushes aren't required always or every time once one changes the oil. Flushes are required for old engines or engines that have been run over 20k plus. Even at this, flushes are recommended to use only once and not every time. See, oil itself gives a sort of protection layer inside the engine parts which is vital. Flushing each time removes this sort of mild layer that is vital.

The oil sold by Bajaj Under the 10000 was literally snakeoil that had a best life of 2k max which was manufactured by HP. The newer ones made by Total and good, being fully synthetic they can be extended to 1000 kays more from the 2k. You can use both oils with no problem whatsoever, and no flushing is required. One thing to keep in mind, in case you top-up, make sure you the save Valvoline oil and the same grade.

Cheers!
VJ

Hi, thank you so much for such detailed replies [emoji4]
Like I've said my bike is due for 1st servicing, will get it done once it touches 500 KM and even though I read positive stuff about Bajaj 10W50 FS Oil am yet to experience it. Also, am aware that my bike's warranty will be void if I use different grade/brand so I'll be changing oil myself at home once I clock 1000 KM. As far as grade is concerned I've nothing against the recommended 10W50, it's just that since the engine is new it heats up real quick and then feels a bit coarse. So, I feel that for now slightly thicker oil might be better and the reason why am going for Valvoline 20W50 SS is coz I already have it. All I wanna know is whether I can change grades straight away or is there any process involved?

[sanjeet286]

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The international manual doesn't specify any brand of engine oil. Some owners have changed to Motul from the SVC itself. I myself have changed to Motul 7100 10w50 after the second service(did the oil change at home). The difference is radical and is felt precisely in the 4.5k to 5k rpm range which is known for the infamous vibes. The choice to change is yours but maintain the viscosity rating unless the ambient temperature is very high.

I'm so confused with which oil to use after my warranty comes to an end. A lot have recommended release-on, though many have also vouched for Motul 7100. Is 7100 really that good? I think this thread itself has said that it's only good for the 1st 1000kms or so and then isn't much different to Bajaj oil.

Also, the 7100 is manufactured in Vietnam and France. The original oe from France seems to be a winner here, but the Vietnam one isn't great. Which one have you used?

[Throttlefreak]

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I'm so confused with which oil to use after my warranty comes to an end. A lot have recommended release-on, though many have also vouched for Motul 7100. Is 7100 really that good? I think this thread itself has said that it's only good for the 1st 1000kms or so and then isn't much different to Bajaj oil.

Also, the 7100 is manufactured in Vietnam and France. The original oe from France seems to be a winner here, but the Vietnam one isn't great. Which one have you used?

Mine is from Vietnam. The difference is noticed in the first 100 km. I've covered about 700 km since the change and so far so good. No leaks, engine overheating or any other issues. The cost is about 200 rupees more than the bajaj oil for a 1.5L bottle but the vibrations reduce a lot. The oil holds its viscosity even when hot as is evident while observing in the oil sight glass. BTW how many kms have you completed?

[sanjeet286]

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Mine is from Vietnam. The difference is noticed in the first 100 km. I've covered about 700 km since the change and so far so good. No leaks, engine overheating or any other issues. The cost is about 200 rupees more than the bajaj oil for a 1.5L bottle but the vibrations reduce a lot. The oil holds its viscosity even when hot as is evident while observing in the oil sight glass. BTW how many kms have you completed?

I'm at 7500kms and up for my 3rd service soon. I aim to change my oil every 5k Kms so if the oil gives me it's best by 5k Kms, that would be perfect. Some oils start to work well at later stages and hence may not suit my purpose.

I actually don't have vibration issues on my Domi (touch wood) as yet, so maybe this may make it even more smoother.

[Zapps]

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I'm at 7500kms and up for my 3rd service soon. I aim to change my oil every 5k Kms so if the oil gives me it's best by 5k Kms, that would be perfect. Some oils start to work well at later stages and hence may not suit my purpose.

I actually don't have vibration issues on my Domi (touch wood) as yet, so maybe this may make it even more smoother.

You'd run oil for 5k KMs? Good lord, dude, bike engines are different from car engines. Don't go beyond 3-4k that too with a compatible fully synthetic oil.

[Throttlefreak]

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I'm at 7500kms and up for my 3rd service soon. I aim to change my oil every 5k Kms so if the oil gives me it's best by 5k Kms, that would be perfect. Some oils start to work well at later stages and hence may not suit my purpose.

I actually don't have vibration issues on my Domi (touch wood) as yet, so maybe this may make it even more smoother.

My oil change happened between two long rides hence I noticed the difference quickly. Whether the smoothness will stay is a topic that should be discussed later. The SVC changed only the filter but bajaj oil had become black and extremely dirty. I feel that no synthetic oil should be stretched more than 7-8K kms. I seriously doubt whether the bajaj oil can really hold for 10K kms(the fact that my bike was never so smooth from beginning and even after the running in) . So go ahead and change it if you want. My bike has the 5 Yr/75000km warranty but I might leave the country for higher education and won't be here till then. Hence there's no point in delaying the switch to Motul till then.

[sanjeet286]

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You'd run oil for 5k KMs? Good lord, dude, bike engines are different from car engines. Don't go beyond 3-4k that too with a compatible fully synthetic oil.

Oh. Well, the Domi is my 1st big bike and hence learning the maintenance pieces slowly. Bajaj claims their oil to last 10k Kms, but most of the riders in the DOCB group have recommended a change at 5k Kmsand hence following that. Let me push it to bit earlier going forward going forward then.