Engine Oils

[madhav krishna]

any one used Shell Advance VSX4 10W-40 ?
is it recommended over MOTUL?

Has anyone used castrol power1 & shell VSX in your dio?? I have used the castrol power1 & the engine is smooth but i have no idea of VSX. Any reviews??

P.S:-i am not even sure of power1 since i have used it with nulon.

Guyz, its time to change oil for my 3500km old dazzler. How far is this oil good?

Shell Advance VSX4 10W-40. It costs 285 bucks. Is it worth it?

The question has been asked by me & ranjith before also. But still no reply. Perhaps no one has used the oil or everyone is lazy in typing about it. But from my own conclusin the oil is the cheapest when compared to castrol & much better (castrol-15W40 while shell-10W40). Being a shell product the oil should be good or atleast not worst.

[RanjithMN]

ive bought the Shell Advance VSX4 10W-40.
will be changing to it next week...will report how good it is compared to MOTUL

[Greymatter]

I want to buy Shell Advance VSX4 10W40 online. Tried ebay.in, planetdsg.com but no luck. In my city almost all shops has only Castrol, Servo engine oils in there stock. Please Help!

[dude_phenom]

I want to buy Shell Advance VSX4 10W40 online. Tried ebay.in, planetdsg.com but no luck. In my city almost all shops has only Castrol, Servo engine oils in there stock. Please Help!

Try Shell Petrol bunks. They will stock the oil for sure and u need not worry about fakes.

[madhav krishna]

ive bought the Shell Advance VSX4 10W-40.
will be changing to it next week...will report how good it is compared to MOTUL

waiting for your detailed review

I want to buy Shell Advance VSX4 10W40 online. Tried ebay.in, planetdsg.com but no luck. In my city almost all shops has only Castrol, Servo engine oils in there stock. Please Help!

As of now there are no such sites from which you can buy shell oil. Try from you nearest bunk or in any big city near-by.

[undercoverzafar]

use of full synth on new engine

bros my fz16 is now 11500 kms old..i had recently got the cylinder,pistons,clutch plates changed...the bike has run 500 after the change..can i put motul full synth after 300kms more?

[spagnet]

HP Gasenol Engine Oil (20W50/API SF) suitability with Pulsar 200

Hi Fellas,

Could anybody help me understand if HP Gasenol could be used in my Pulsar 200? It's rated 20W50 and certified API SF, but meant for High Temperature Gas (CNG/LPG) based Engine.

I am having difficulty finding 20W50 oils and more so genuine oils. I can pick this up from HP Retail outlet, so can be more assured of its genuineness.

Thanks in advance.

[andy118]

dont use any LPG/CNG oil in ur p200..it will harm the engine...u can use valvoline premium..or motul 5100 if u r lucky enough to get 1...hehe...

[prakhararya]

engine oil

no zafar, do the running part on mineral oil only, and then first switch to semi synth, and if u want more and test it, go for fully synth.Otherwise my advice would be to stick to semi synth, it's suitable for ur machine

[FATAL1TY - X]

For those who want technical information about these oils

Shell advance VSX4 - made entirely from group 3 base stock(severely hydro treated mineral oil) and they call it a blend or semi synthetic when it is actually a highly refined mineral oil and contains nothing synthetic!(currently using this one in my R15. i did some digging after i found that the engine got rough after 1000 or so kms. and found these facts!)

Shell advance Ultra - made from group 3 and 5 base stocks("blend of severely hydro treated slack wax and synthetic esters"). it is actually a blend or semi synth in technical terms and they call it Full synthetic!

Mobil 1 Full synthetic - made from group 4 base stocks(PAO) and qualifies as a full synthetic. but unfortunately this oil is not formulated for motorcycles

Motul 300V FL - Made from group 5 base stocks or esters. qualifies as a true synthetic.

God knows what power one Racing and agip FS are made from. i couldnt get their Technical data sheets. Agip is most probably a blend of group 3 and 4 base stocks. but i'm sure it is better than CP1R. and gotta appreciate Shell, Motul and Mobil for providing the Material Safety Data Sheet and Techical Data Sheet of their oils.

for those who find the 300v evaporating fast, try a higher viscosity grade.

[RanjithMN]

Shell advance VSX4 - made entirely from group 3 base stock(severely hydro treated mineral oil) and they call it a blend or semi synthetic when it is actually a highly refined mineral oil and contains nothing synthetic!(currently using this one in my R15. i did some digging after i found that the engine got rough after 1000 or so kms. and found these facts!)

damn...you 100% sure about this?i have just bought one and will be doing the oil change this week.

and what about the MOTUL Semi-synth?are they actually semi synth?

[FATAL1TY - X]

damn...you 100% sure about this?i have just bought one and will be doing the oil change this week.

and what about the MOTUL Semi-synth?are they actually semi synth?

the attachment. see for yourself.

motul semisynth is an actual semi synth. it says in it's MSDS that it has 1-6% of one of the PAOs(group 4 base stock) and it is ester based. so most probably it is a blend of group 3,4 and 5 base stocks. i'm not sure about the group 5 base stock part, but it defenitely contains group 4 base stock. so it is a semi-synthetic in all senses.

a word of advice, dont think that the vsx is a bad oil just because of this. but it is pretty good as other mineral oils goes. it is just that it looses its viscosity within 1500-2000 kms and requires changing before 3000km. its price is not that high end either. around 285/l(i get it for 250). just wanted to throw some light on how manufacturers plays with terms like "Semi synthetic" and "Full synthetic" to confuse people. it is their marketing strategy.

[RanjithMN]

So you mean the semi synth VSX is as good as MOTUL but requires a short drain interval?
Thank you

[FATAL1TY - X]

So you mean the semi synth VSX is as good as MOTUL but requires a short drain interval?
Thank you

i dont know about motul. i've never used that oil to find out. vsx is not a semi synth. it is a higly refined mineral oil. i think you know about that by now.

most probably motul will retain its viscosity longer. 2 reasons. 1st, it is an actual semi synth or a blend of a high quality mineral base stock and a synthetic base stock. and 2nd it depends on the viscosity grade. motul 5100 comes in different viscosity grades if i'm not mistaken. the higher the winter grade the longer it will retain its viscosity(only applies if both the oil uses the same base stock and the last number or the number after the "W" is the same for both oils). for eg lets take 2 similar mineral oil which uses group 3 base stock with different "W" rating, a 10w40 and a 20w40. in this case the 20w40 oil will retain its viscosity longer than the 10w40. meaning if the vsx came in a higher winter grade like 15w40 or a 20w40 then it sure should have retained its viscosity longer than the vsx with the 10w40 rating.

same way an oil with a better base stock will retain its viscosity longer. means lets take the above 2 grades, the 10w40 uses group 4 or 5 base stock(full synthetic) and a 20w40 uses a group 2 or 3 base stock(mineral or semi synthetic). in that case the 10w40 which uses the group 4 base stock will retain its viscosity longer than the low spec 20w40 oil. so the best thing to do is, if you know that you are using a low spec oil it is better to use a higher "W" grade(assuming the last number or hot viscosity stays the same) if you are not going to drain it any sooner. try to keep the hot viscosity or the number after the "W" the same as the manufacturer recommend.

the above mentioned viscosity differences depends on the additive package and other formulations of the oil and there is a lot more than this to consider when selecting a grade. thats why the easiest way is to go by the manufacturer recommended grade.

now coming to your question. yes, the motul 5100 can go longer without losing its viscosity comparing a same grade shell vsx. if both the shell and motul are of same grade, the shell requires a shorter drain interval than motul.

[RanjithMN]

Thanks a lot Fatility..ive been using MOTUL and wanted to try out SHELL...now im back to MOTUL


@all i have a query
FZ's recommended grade is 20W40 for Mineral...so will i be able to use a w50 sem syhth?