Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[B7ACKTHORN]

I could be wrong, but, I feel this is not original A*; Sry

+1 I had the same thoughts about the jacket.

These are a gears I bought today to complement my yet to arrive Ktm Duke .

The Astar Jacket cost 8000,
Helmet - Ls2 Phobia 3000
Axo Knee Guards with KTM logo 800

Did I overpay for anything?

Nice gear setup there NiXtriX. No I guess you paid more or less equal, nothing much.

Regarding the A* jacket, don't know whether it's a knock-off or not, but then the very design makes me kinda speculative, and I don't remember seeing such a model.

But then, just my speculation. Where is it made? Vietnam or China?

Good helmet selection, and pretty good price for an Axo knee guard at that price.

Cheers!
VJ

[NiXTriX]

I was in no mood to disappoint you till i read about your previous accident.

Besides the jacket, even the LS2 we get here in India are fake . The are just replicas of LS2s. There are so many good original helmets available here yet many of us still want to buy it from a local shop who prices his products cheaper.

Slightly off topic: Many companies outsource their manufacturing to Chinese companies. Next some smart Indian businessman who visits china asks the same company to make similar helmets with the same packaging at a lower cost for which he is ready to compromise on the quality. The Chinese use the same mould and dye( not sure ) and ship them to India.

+1 I had the same thoughts about the jacket.



Nice gear setup there NiXtriX. No I guess you paid more or less equal, nothing much.

Regarding the A* jacket, don't know whether it's a knock-off or not, but then the very design makes me kinda speculative, and I don't remember seeing such a model.

But then, just my speculation. Where is it made? Vietnam or China?

Good helmet selection, and pretty good price for an Axo knee guard at that price.

Cheers!
VJ

I guess the jackets probably made in China. Now I'm beginning to suspect the
Knee and elbow guard as well.

Samarth2536 - Million + 1 to ^^^ post; most of the time what happens is, not many people disclose truth here that results in more & more people taken for a ride. As one community, I feel we've to help one another when we such things happen.

Probably would have helped in my case.

Now I have a decent riding jacket which atleast seems to be of a quality comparable to DSG. The stitching and material seems to be pretty decent I'll visit his shop and ask for a some cash back

[revvhard]

Regarding the bacchoo motor's confusion, Sohail is a vendor for bacchoo motor's itself.
I called him in the afternoon regarding the rjay's swift jacket and he told me they would be in stock by this week.

[Sunnyside_up!]

I guess the jackets probably made in China. Now I'm beginning to suspect the
Knee and elbow guard as well.



Probably would have helped in my case.

Now I have a decent riding jacket which atleast seems to be of a quality comparable to DSG. The stitching and material seems to be pretty decent I'll visit his shop and ask for a some cash back

If its a fake, you should ask him to take it back!! Not just ask for some cash back!! I'm not saying that the jacket would not be of any use - it may probably be equal to some lower end product but you paid a "premium" for the A-Stars branding, right? So if you've been sold a fake, you've been cheated!! And even if you don't mind the knock-off, you should have paid much less!

Incidentally the AXO's at that price are definitely a knock-off too - should tell your so-called "friend" that you're disappointed!

[NiXTriX]

If its a fake, you should ask him to take it back!! Not just ask for some cash back!! I'm not saying that the jacket would not be of any use - it may probably be equal to some lower end product but you paid a "premium" for the A-Stars branding, right? So if you've been sold a fake, you've been cheated!! And even if you don't mind the knock-off, you should have paid much less!

Incidentally the AXO's at that price are definitely a knock-off too - should tell your so-called "friend" that you're disappointed!

Lesson learnt... He's not taking it back and I can't fight with him as well coz of other tie-ups.
What he's offered to do though is return half the money. So I'd end up with a decent jacket (I'll forget the A* thing for now ) for 4000 and will also end up paying 600 for the "knee & elbow guards" with a tank pad thrown in for free.
Just trying to make the best of a bad situation for now. Disappointing day to say the least.

If anyone could shed more light on how to identify genuine and fakes it would be of great help to lots of people... especially noobs like me..

[yellowspunk]

^^^ Why did you delete the comment yellowspunk?

Hey aargee,

I'm awaiting for a response from them, will post here after their response. Am gonna be their worst PR ever !!

Can you pl modify/delete your post with reference to them. Thanks.

[Sunnyside_up!]

If anyone could shed more light on how to identify genuine and fakes it would be of great help to lots of people... especially noobs like me..

In a word - RESEARCH !

This thread itself holds all the information required to make an informed purchase. Look for authorised vendors - Google is your friend.

If you are looking for an international brand, look for the authorised distributors for India in the primary international website. Every reputed brand will try to protect their branding by using only authorised distribution channels. Then buy from only the identified distributor. Simple!

If the store that you're buying from does not have an established link to the manufacturer via his distributor - chances are very good that you're being ripped off! Also remember that brands that do not have official representation in India via their authorised distributor cannot also provide you with a warranty or spares - something that all reputed companies do.

Many stores buy genuine products and sell them in limited numbers ( and often at very high prices compared to International rates ) but without the manufacturer's official sanction, you will have no recourse in case of a warranty claim or repair. The official Sparx/KBC distributor for India is Performance Racing, yet there are some stores in Delhi and Bangalore who sell helmets branded as KBC/Sparx ( I can't say if they are genuine or not ). In case of a claim, those who bought from these guys cannot approach the one-off seller since he will wash his hands, and they also cannot approach PRS since they don't have a bill proving that they bought the helmet from him.

Also, when the authorised dealer sells a model for 8K and someone buys the same from a fly-by-night operator for 5K, you have to wonder about the source and its quality, right? That's what tipped off most of us in the first place about your jacket. Anyway, live and learn is a good way not to repeat blunders!

Cheers!

[B7ACKTHORN]

Lesson learnt... He's not taking it back and I can't fight with him as well coz of other tie-ups.
What he's offered to do though is return half the money. So I'd end up with a decent jacket (I'll forget the A* thing for now ) for 4000 and will also end up paying 600 for the "knee & elbow guards" with a tank pad thrown in for free.
Just trying to make the best of a bad situation for now. Disappointing day to say the least.

If anyone could shed more light on how to identify genuine and fakes it would be of great help to lots of people... especially noobs like me..

Don't worry man, @#$@ happens and it happens to everyone of us. But 4k reduction is a big big dent, considering the loss you incurred.

Thing is, brand craze is everywhere, with which these knock-off manufacturers make some easy and crazy bucks. Especially with credible brands such as A* one can easily be tricked and deceived.

Now how do you spot a fake? An age old question, asked by everyone, not only noobs, even experienced folks.

Easy way to rule out a fake is to do research about the product you buy, for example, the model, the color and the price. Usually A* costs well above what average jackets retail for, nothing below 7k as far as I know.

Second try sourcing it from sellers who are reputed. PlanetDSG has been in this business for a long time, and a it's a reputed one, as you can see from fellow xBhpians who themselves bought stuffs from here including me.

Now that doesn't mean every other guy who sells an A* is a fake, you need to do some good research before you invest your hard earned money into it, unless it's dad paid -- kiddin.

Mostly one-off retailers who pop up from no where, saying we sell all famous brands or who is offering lucrative discounts is the guys to watch for. It may be tempting for us to go for it, but then it's where you need to have an eagle eye.

When buying a A* jacket or any reputed manufacturers clothing line, check for what the retail price is in their website, try calculating it through our conversion -- now the conversion part is a little tricky as the price might be higher or lower, but then it's a best bet to get to know what it's all about, or at least it will give you an idea of what the baseline price will be for the jacket you want.

Second try finding the same product in India through a genuine retailer, you get most of the stuffs that's out there in India itself, though tad costlier than cheap ones and knock-offs, the extra little is all you pay for your peace of mind and protection.

And, I need not even start about knee pads, most of them are fake, especially in eBay etc. You can see a same kneepad selling for 650 in eBay and the same thing for 2500 in one place and 4800 in another.

Imagine you spending that same 8000 bucks with a few hundred bucks more you can be getting a genuine Alpinestars TGP AIR JACKET from PlanetDSG

So it's a wise choice to, enquire, invest some time in what you want and then go for it.

Cheers!
VJ

[NiXTriX]

In a word - RESEARCH !

This thread itself holds all the information required to make an informed purchase. Look for authorised vendors - Google is your friend.

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Also, when the authorised dealer sells a model for 8K and someone buys the same from a fly-by-night operator for 5K, you have to wonder about the source and its quality, right? That's what tipped off most of us in the first place about your jacket. Anyway, live and learn is a good way not to repeat blunders!

Cheers!

Don't worry man, @#$@ happens and it happens to everyone of us. But 4k reduction is a big big dent, considering the loss you incurred.

Thing is, brand craze is everywhere, with which these knock-off manufacturers make some easy and crazy bucks. Especially with credible brands such as A* one can easily be tricked and deceived.
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can be getting a genuine Alpinestars TGP AIR JACKET from PlanetDSG

So it's a wise choice to, enquire, invest some time in what you want and then go for it.

Cheers!
VJ

Thanks guys.. Lesson learnt.. I thought the reduction was because he was a known guy..
Guess I was taken for a ride and it was not the kind of ride I like

[prateekm]

I am buying riding pants next month so wont be needing these knee guards.

Just curious, which pant are you planning to buy? The Rjays, AGV or something else?

[aargee]

Just trying to make the best of a bad situation for now. Disappointing day to say the least

But its still OK; you got 50% of your money back; if not for this site, you would've not even identified it

I'm very sure, you'll RESEARCH before you buy next time. Just don't let this one incident disappoint your new bike & riding gear.

[rahul2880]

I am selling my dsg revive gloves size Large in mumbai for rs. 1500/- anybody interested?

[Eshan-P180]

I've bought all my gears from Bachoo Motors and not to mention, I live in south, reeely far. I call up Zulfi, ask for my required gear, he confirms for the same and after the payment he ships it the same day. Simple!

Now why do you want to buy from vendors when you can directly buy from the wholesaler (BM). I've never come across Sohail and hearing it for the first time in this entire thread.

I guess Sohail too is planning to get it sourced directly from Aussies, I guess.

Cheers!
VJ

I live in pune buddy. And as per bachoo motors website they have a dealer here in pune too.
Check this - Dealer Stores - BIKES I RIDING GEAR I PERFORMANCE ACCESSORIES I SPARES

Scroll down for Pune. That is an authentic dealer.

Now since they have a dealer here 10kms away from home i wouldnt spend money and time on shipping.

Thats why the confusion... And to tell you it is yet not sorted out.

[JASMINE RIDER]

help!

what is the best jacket within 5.5k?..
need a all whether jacket including water proof...
was interested in jk 17...but,happend to know that its not water proof..even not water resistant.
after searches, ended up in 3 models. dsg nero, dsg maze, dsg pheonix...
which is the best out of these?..
i like the looks of DSG Phoenix and maze...but, not like the looks of nero..
also i like to know whether NERO is available in red also?..
what about dsg falcon?..is there any rain liner in it or not?..whether it comes with red color too?
help friends...

[rx100.7050]

what is the best jacket within 5.5k?..
need a all whether jacket including water proof...
was interested in jk 17...but,happend to know that its not water proof..even not water resistant.
after searches, ended up in 3 models. dsg nero, dsg maze, dsg pheonix...
which is the best out of these?..
i like the looks of DSG Phoenix and maze...but, not like the looks of nero..
also i like to know whether NERO is available in red also?..
what about dsg falcon?..is there any rain liner in it or not?..whether it comes with red color too?
help friends...

Trust me when I say DSG Maze is an amazing jacket. I am wearing daily to office & to rides and all. Check the temperatures in Delhi for the last 1 month & you will know how hot it is. Since it's a mesh jacket, while riding I am not that fluttered. It's only when at a stop, I feel the warmth but way better than textile jacket. The only downside people may say is the leather present in shoulders, cuffs & waist. But it's a good quality leather & if you just take care of it, it won't be a problem.
I went to DSG's dealer last Friday & found out A-star & Cramster mesh jackets available too. Cramsters is priced closely to the DSG while A-star, but obvious, is pricey.