Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[lijok]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Consider other options before the A*. A friend who saw the A* at AQ said it looks like fake, the quality of other A* gear lacking on glancing looks.

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[B7ACKTHORN]

Thanks for clearing it aargee, i would like to know one thing though, are DSG authorised dealers of A* gear ?


Well, im ready to extend my budget up for the a* , provided i get the original one, i am under the assumption that DSG provides authentic A* stuff , and Auto Queen in Cochin is authirsed dealers of DSG , so i am assuming i can get the original stuff from them ?

The Helios is giving me a very very tough pull, the features of the helios , as described in the photo album , does makes my think that its a great VFM product. Havent made up my mind yet, having already made a mistake once in selecting gears, i dont want to repeat it again. So going to do proper research this time,
Yes, im looking for an everyday use jacket, mesh is compulsory, added liner will be a +ve for me, though the A* doesnt come with removable liner.

Yes, Im considering Spartan as a serious option too. Need to do a little more research and asking around.Steering clear from DSG this time.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Krish it's pretty simple. If you intend to chuck out more greens for the sake of A*, go for it from DSG only, or other US resellers, you can be rest assured they are 100% genuine, backed by reviews and warranty, size replacement etc.

Don't even trust AQ, they are sub-retailers, it need not be they always sell genuine stuffs, given the demand, A* fakes are flooded, and AQ is no exception, veracity, money is motive as to what Lijok has pointed.

If I were you, even if I had the slightest doubt as to the product I am planning to purchase, a high-end one, I would just chuck it away if I don't feel its worth enough.

Forget AQ, and all the dingy retailers. Go for a authorized seller. PERIOD

Go for HELIOS. Your best bet! Go for Cramster only if you need another extra liner, and I am quoting this as to your budget.

Cheers!
VJ

[fahim154]

I was going through the last 10 pages, once again, since im going gear hunting soon, im seriously considering the a* , the jacket looks good, nice air flow and you have given a detailed review too, but one thing that i couldnt reisit asking, the bio-armour stuff, how is it different from the arour in other jackets, say triton or breezer, and another noob question, this holes/ventilation in the armour, isnt it really kinda making the armour less useful ?
Can someone give an insight towards that.




Cheers
Ride Safe
krishna

first of all regarding armor question alpinestar bio armor is a revolutionary armor before buying the jacket i read this review of bio armor please go through this to clear your doubts regarding the armor Alpinestars Bio Armor explained | Hell for Leather but in brief let me tell bio armor is ce certified armor most armor in dsg and cramster is dense foam armor but A* bio armor is nearly half the thicker of normal armor but still gives better protection than convectional foam armor again read the article hope its helps regarding the genuine stuff again i was also confused so rather than going to the sub dealer of dsg i ordered it directly from dsg to ensure genuine stuff which cost me like 200 odd bucks for the peace of mind of buying i was happy to pay that much.and the abesnt liner is a problem but i think there are liner for purchase which donot attach to the jacket but can do the job
cheers

[B7ACKTHORN]

...sub dealer of dsg i ordered it directly from dsg to ensure genuine stuff which cost me like 200 odd bucks for the peace of mind of buying i was happy to pay that much.and the abesnt liner is a problem but i think there are liner for purchase which donot attach to the jacket but can do the job
cheers

Absolutely true, Fahim.

Just as a general note to newbies and alike.

Most people here in the forum confuse themselves. Please be aware, there are fakes, of the most significant brands out there. It's upto to us and our conscience to be able to discern what's fake from what's genuine, yes it's not easy, as the very urge for the first-timers is so bad that it literally blinds people into making bland errors.

No one is error-free, even experienced eyes get bummed sometimes. There is even a notion that only US sold stuffs, resellers are genuine, yes to the most part. But spending a little time on research, will open a lots of new windows here in India.

Tips for first timers
1. Never trust a newly bloomed mushroom with radical design at submissive prices. You know it's fake. If you don't, then research about the brand you intend to buy. Cross check the price of the jacket that's sold here with what's sold elsewhere, which will give you clear picture to the price.

Second, look for reviews, there are tons of reviews, right from noobs to pros in any brand you take, make a concsious decision on what to buy, where to buy.

Third, send a mail directly to the "BRAND" for a genuine reseller in your country/state etc, which will give you even more clearer picture as to the pricing etc.

Fourth, invest in a good pair of riding gear.

Cheers!
VJ

[Sunnyside_up!]

first of all regarding armor question alpinestar bio armor is a revolutionary armor before buying the jacket i read this review of bio armor please go through this to clear your doubts regarding the armor Alpinestars Bio Armor explained | Hell for Leather but in brief let me tell bio armor is ce certified armor most armor in dsg and cramster is dense foam armor but A* bio armor is nearly half the thicker of normal armor but still gives better protection than convectional foam armor again read the article hope its helps regarding the genuine stuff again i was also confused so rather than going to the sub dealer of dsg i ordered it directly from dsg to ensure genuine stuff which cost me like 200 odd bucks for the peace of mind of buying i was happy to pay that much.and the abesnt liner is a problem but i think there are liner for purchase which donot attach to the jacket but can do the job
cheers

Just a footnote - I acquired this jacket a few months ago courtesy a friend leaving the country to settle abroad - the shoulders and elbows have moulded polyurethane armour or "Bio-armour" as AStars call it, which I'm sure are very good and look very well made. The problem is that the jacket comes with an ordinary foam sheet filler in the back and chest area in lieu of proper armour. These fillers are merely meant for maintaining the shape of the armour pocket and have all the protective capacity of cardboard. A proper back armour from AStars costs an additional Rs.3000, while the front armour costs an additional Rs. 1700 IIRC. This means that if you really want the advertised protection that the jacket is supposed to offer, it will cost you about Rs.4700/- more than the cost of the jacket. So Rs. 8500 + Rs. 4700 = 13200/-!!

Being a gift, I was not inclined to spring for the armour and consequently simply inserted my Sas-Tec Level 2 back armour
From another jacket into it for use. It didn't fit very well as the pocket for the armour was a different shape but I used it anyway on a couple of rides. Couldn't get anything else for the front though.

What have you done? Have you bought the additional armour?

[s1d]

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Most people here in the forum confuse themselves. Please be aware, there are fakes, of the most significant brands out there. It's upto to us and our conscience to be able to discern what's fake from what's genuine, yes it's not easy, as the very urge for the first-timers is so bad that it literally blinds people into making bland errors.

This is an interaction i had with one of the sellers on ebay india:

ME
Hi,

I would like to know if this a Original Alpinestars glove or is it a fake/look alike?
Can you give me the exact product/model no. for this glove?

HIM
dear sir.
its 100/% guaranteed original Alpinestars riding gloves

ME
Please let me know the Model name / Product/ Part number for this. I dont see this listed on the official Alpinestars website / product catalog.

HIM
dear sir
we do not had any part or product no so i last checked in the gloves if there was a no or any model then i tell you other wise if you do not trust us you check f back of other buyers & if you had any doubt then you do not buy this
thanks

[B7ACKTHORN]

This is an interaction i had with one of the sellers on ebay india:

ME
Hi,

I would like to know if this a Original Alpinestars glove or is it a fake/look alike?
Can you give me the exact product/model no. for this glove?

HIM
dear sir.
its 100/% guaranteed original Alpinestars riding gloves

ME
Please let me know the Model name / Product/ Part number for this. I dont see this listed on the official Alpinestars website / product catalog.

HIM
dear sir
we do not had any part or product no so i last checked in the gloves if there was a no or any model then i tell you other wise if you do not trust us you check f back of other buyers & if you had any doubt then you do not buy this
thanks

Never trust eBay for your riding gears. Not all of them are fake, and for that matter genuine. And this forum has certain members with bitter experience with eBay!

When the seller says, look for feedback, the buyer might be deprived of the proper knowledge or he might have commented or rated for a different product than the one which you have.

Cheers!
VJ

[fahim154]

Just a footnote - I acquired this jacket a few months ago courtesy a friend leaving the country to settle abroad - the shoulders and elbows have moulded polyurethane armour or "Bio-armour" as AStars call it, which I'm sure are very good and look very well made. The problem is that the jacket comes with an ordinary foam sheet filler in the back and chest area in lieu of proper armour. These fillers are merely meant for maintaining the shape of the armour pocket and have all the protective capacity of cardboard. A proper back armour from AStars costs an additional Rs.3000, while the front armour costs an additional Rs. 1700 IIRC. This means that if you really want the advertised protection that the jacket is supposed to offer, it will cost you about Rs.4700/- more than the cost of the jacket. So Rs. 8500 + Rs. 4700 = 13200/-!!

Being a gift, I was not inclined to spring for the armour and consequently simply inserted my Sas-Tec Level 2 back armour
From another jacket into it for use. It didn't fit very well as the pocket for the armour was a different shape but I used it anyway on a couple of rides. Couldn't get anything else for the front though.

What have you done? Have you bought the additional armour?

i have mentioned it in the review and before buying the jacket i figured that out. yup i ordered the chest pads alongside the jacket purchase as they were in my budget at that time but sadly back armor cost 3000 which was over a little over my budget at that time as iam behind my bills right now so planning to buy it in the near future

[fahim154]

Never trust eBay for your riding gears. Not all of them are fake, and for that matter genuine. And this forum has certain members with bitter experience with eBay!

When the seller says, look for feedback, the buyer might be deprived of the proper knowledge or he might have commented or rated for a different product than the one which you have.

Cheers!
VJ

true bachoo motors are a seller on ebay and sell genuine rjays from there,again a few pages a guy bought a awesome speed and strength jacket of ebay these are few examples. you just have to be careful while buying riding gears

[B7ACKTHORN]

true bachoo motors are a seller on ebay and sell genuine rjays from there,again a few pages a guy bought a awesome speed and strength jacket of ebay these are few examples. you just have to be careful while buying riding gears

It is not that Bachoo Motors alone sell genuine stuffs, there are lots of genuine retailers. We as a consumer get screwed up in the "BRAND" part, not the reseller part. That's where the fake products/resellers take their leverage from.

Solution: Help others in a forum like this and spread the word!

Cheers!
VJ

[s1d]

It is not that Bachoo Motors alone sell genuine stuffs, there are lots of genuine retailers. We as a consumer get screwed up in the "BRAND" part, not the reseller part. That's where the fake products/resellers take their leverage from.

Solution: Help others in a forum like this and spread the word!

Cheers!
VJ

I just found Sans classic Parts (i guess they are trusted name in exhausts/aftermarket parts for bullets) selling A* riding gloves on ebay.in they are priced at rs.500 for the full and i think 400 for the half gloves. Are original A* gloves this cheap ?? And as usual no model/product/part no. mentioned for these gloves...
No offense to the seller, but just wanted to clarify..

[krish2778]

Yes cheta, i too had heard that from a Xbhp member in Cochin, when i had gone to AQ before for getting my LS2. Re-sellers are a point to be concerned about, now i have sent a mail to A* int site as advised by RG and and waiting for them to revert, if DSG is an Authorized dealers, ill be getting it from them directly, otherwise , the plan for A* will be scrapped for good.

Consider other options before the A*. A friend who saw the A* at AQ said it looks like fake, the quality of other A* gear lacking on glancing looks.

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Exactly Vijay, i had drawn that conclusion about re-sellers quite some time back, but during the time of purchase its kind of a dilema, but now im having something closer to a level head, from advice here , Im waiting for the A* guys to revert back, hope they do and then I'll make a decesion.

Krish it's pretty simple. If you intend to chuck out more greens for the sake of A*, go for it from DSG only, or other US resellers, you can be rest assured they are 100% genuine, backed by reviews and warranty, size replacement etc.

Don't even trust AQ, they are sub-retailers, it need not be they always sell genuine stuffs, given the demand, A* fakes are flooded, and AQ is no exception, veracity, money is motive as to what Lijok has pointed.

If I were you, even if I had the slightest doubt as to the product I am planning to purchase, a high-end one, I would just chuck it away if I don't feel its worth enough.

Forget AQ, and all the dingy retailers. Go for a authorized seller. PERIOD

Go for HELIOS. Your best bet! Go for Cramster only if you need another extra liner, and I am quoting this as to your budget.

Cheers!
VJ

Fahim, i had checked about Bio armor only after i posted my doubt over here, and i ended up searching at revzilla for some reviews and saw the armor specific review of the A* range and got this info too. All seems good about the bio armor in the elbow and shoulders, will serve better than conventional armor.
I too am considering for direct purchase from DSG, but i would like to know one thing mate, how good is their customer support/response ? Do they ship the product fast enough ? How many days it took for you to get it, did they take time to revert back to queries ?

first of all regarding armor question alpinestar bio armor is a revolutionary armor before buying the jacket i read this review of bio armor please go through this to clear your doubts regarding the armor Alpinestars Bio Armor explained | Hell for Leather but in brief let me tell bio armor is ce certified armor most armor in dsg and cramster is dense foam armor but A* bio armor is nearly half the thicker of normal armor but still gives better protection than convectional foam armor again read the article hope its helps regarding the genuine stuff again i was also confused so rather than going to the sub dealer of dsg i ordered it directly from dsg to ensure genuine stuff which cost me like 200 odd bucks for the peace of mind of buying i was happy to pay that much.and the abesnt liner is a problem but i think there are liner for purchase which donot attach to the jacket but can do the job
cheers

A very important note, everyone should read this.

Just as a general note to newbies and alike.

Most people here in the forum confuse themselves. Please be aware, there are fakes, of the most significant brands out there. It's upto to us and our conscience to be able to discern what's fake from what's genuine, yes it's not easy, as the very urge for the first-timers is so bad that it literally blinds people into making bland errors.

No one is error-free, even experienced eyes get bummed sometimes. There is even a notion that only US sold stuffs, resellers are genuine, yes to the most part. But spending a little time on research, will open a lots of new windows here in India.

Tips for first timers
1. Never trust a newly bloomed mushroom with radical design at submissive prices. You know it's fake. If you don't, then research about the brand you intend to buy. Cross check the price of the jacket that's sold here with what's sold elsewhere, which will give you clear picture to the price.

Second, look for reviews, there are tons of reviews, right from noobs to pros in any brand you take, make a concsious decision on what to buy, where to buy.

Third, send a mail directly to the "BRAND" for a genuine reseller in your country/state etc, which will give you even more clearer picture as to the pricing etc.

Fourth, invest in a good pair of riding gear.

Cheers!
VJ

I also agree on the back and chest protector part, in most of the reviews of this jacket, they praise the quality and air flow and how it lives up to its mesh character, but most of the people complain that for this cost it lacks a proper back protector , and the prices of the chest and back armor is right, i had checked it yesterday, but 13k is not in my budget, for that matter 8.5k isnt , ill have to save for a few more months for that(im a student).

How would you rate the Helios armour compared to this one , the back protector in particular ?

Just a footnote - I acquired this jacket a few months ago courtesy a friend leaving the country to settle abroad - the shoulders and elbows have moulded polyurethane armour or "Bio-armour" as AStars call it, which I'm sure are very good and look very well made. The problem is that the jacket comes with an ordinary foam sheet filler in the back and chest area in lieu of proper armour. These fillers are merely meant for maintaining the shape of the armour pocket and have all the protective capacity of cardboard. A proper back armour from AStars costs an additional Rs.3000, while the front armour costs an additional Rs. 1700 IIRC. This means that if you really want the advertised protection that the jacket is supposed to offer, it will cost you about Rs.4700/- more than the cost of the jacket. So Rs. 8500 + Rs. 4700 = 13200/-!!

Being a gift, I was not inclined to spring for the armour and consequently simply inserted my Sas-Tec Level 2 back armour
From another jacket into it for use. It didn't fit very well as the pocket for the armour was a different shape but I used it anyway on a couple of rides. Couldn't get anything else for the front though.

What have you done? Have you bought the additional armour?

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

[aargee]

HIM
dear sir
we do not had any part or product no so i last checked in the gloves if there was a no or any model then i tell you other wise if you do not trust us you check f back of other buyers & if you had any doubt then you do not buy this
thanks

the buyer might be deprived of the proper knowledge or he might have commented or rated for a different product than the one which you have

Worst case...how can we be sure that the buyer isn't the seller with a different email ID or phone number

[s1d]

Worst case...how can we be sure that the buyer isn't the seller with a different email ID or phone number

ebay's feedback system is amongst the better ones i have come across (compared to other indian ecom sites..), but apart from that.. what needs to be kept in mind is that even such a good feedback system can have drawbacks/loopholes such as a genuine buyer who isnt able to identify a fake, and is happy that he got a real 'A*'(or for that matter any branded product) just basing it on the products' looks & packaging & of course cheaper price..
i have decided i am going to identify and report such fakes to ebay... there are some sellers who genuinely say that the product is a fake (look a like etc..) but others who blatantly lie and get away because the buyer isn't 'educated'..
A simple way to get a clearer idea/info on a product that is sold online is to check the original manufacturer's website for specs/model number etc..

[fahim154]

Fahim, i had checked about Bio armor only after i posted my doubt over here, and i ended up searching at revzilla for some reviews and saw the armor specific review of the A* range and got this info too. All seems good about the bio armor in the elbow and shoulders, will serve better than conventional armor.
I too am considering for direct purchase from DSG, but i would like to know one thing mate, how good is their customer support/response ? Do they ship the product fast enough ? How many days it took for you to get it, did they take time to revert back to queries ?




Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

i have bought riding gear from dsg third time for me the experience was again good they called the next day to confirm the order, check for sizing and corrected my mistake of choosing a wrong glove size.shipping after confirmation was done in two days almost .tracking number was provided for the package,and i receive the package within 1 week of ordering.you can call them for any queries they are always happy to help and do not hesitate to answer your question.