Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[Mithungo]

Hi all,

....

1. Can the Thor Sector (see link) or Ebay Fox (see link) or Ebay Raptor Fox (see link) be worn under normal jeans (slim fitting ones)?? I would prefer to wear them under jeans as outside they will scratch the tank of my CBR 250..
2. Any personal reviews on the knee guards mentioned above - are the ebay ones absolutely worthless?? Any other recommendation for slim profile knee guards?

In the worst case scenario, I will buy a pair of slim knee guards for wearing under jeans on a daily basis (if I can find any) and a riding pants only for long trips..

Thor Sector is meant to be used inside jeans\pants ( I personally use it outside due to the convenience factor though).
It also comes with no side rivets - so won't scratch your tank. I am pretty pleased with the money spent on this. If you go back 1-2 pages you can see a discussion on the same.

For people checking RE gears: Here is the website: http://royalenfield.com/accessories/
I personally liked this: http://royalenfield.com/accessories/boots/boot-cover/
Mithun

[vageesh79]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

I have thor sector knee guards brand new if someone wants to buy.

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[thebiker2k2]

I've been using Riding pant from Spartan, ODYSSEUS
These pants are good and comfortable for long and multiday rides, used this for Ladakh trip this year and this was the only pant I wore all 10 days.


1. Can the riding pants be used throughout the year or do they feel too hot in Delhi's summers?
Riding pants are generally made of abrasion protection material and they are quite hot during summer, think of it as a textile jacket.

2. Can the riding pants be worn over jeans (this would probably be only practical in winter season)?
Think of it as a regular pant, no need of one more layer of full length garment inside it..... I just wear boxers under them.

For daily commute, I guess knee guards are our best bet.

Thanks for that - unfortunately, Spartan Pro Gear does not have any outlet in/near Delhi and I cannot buy riding pants without being able to physically check them out... How's the knee guard in them - is it loose and possible to get; shifted in case of a slide? And any personal review on knee-guard?

Thor Sector is meant to be used inside jeans\pants ( I personally use it outside due to the convenience factor though).
It also comes with no side rivets - so won't scratch your tank. I am pretty pleased with the money spent on this. If you go back 1-2 pages you can see a discussion on the same.

For people checking RE gears: Here is the website: Royal Enfield
I personally liked this: Royal Enfield
Mithun

Thanks Mithun. How do you keep the knee part conform to the bent shape of leg while riding when worn outside - I believe it has no strap above the knee - right? Also, since you have them - are they slim enough to be worn inside slim-fit (and not really 'baggy') jeans? And overall are you satisfied with their quality?

And the RE accessories look great - thanks for sharing? I am liking a few of them (specifically the leather jacket and the riding boots) - but it will look funny riding a CBR while wearing RE branded accessories . The website does not have prices so please share if someone has any info on that.

I have thor sector knee guards brand new if someone wants to buy.

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Please let me know how old/used are they and reason for selling. Also, where did you buy them from and expected price - you may PM the details to me... Thanks..

[Mithungo]

Thanks Mithun. How do you keep the knee part conform to the bent shape of leg while riding when worn outside - I believe it has no strap above the knee - right? Also, since you have them - are they slim enough to be worn inside slim-fit (and not really 'baggy') jeans? And overall are you satisfied with their quality?

It is not that thin. So if you are wearing a tight fit, I would say it is a no go.
It will stick up a bit above the knee if I wear it outside. But incase of a fall, it should bend back correctly (hopefully ).
Overall, it is of very good quality - much much better than AXO fakes. I think there are some more recommendations for the Thor as well - Just a few pages back.

And the RE accessories look great - thanks for sharing? I am liking a few of them (specifically the leather jacket and the riding boots) - but it will look funny riding a CBR while wearing RE branded accessories . The website does not have prices so please share if someone has any info on that....

They all have Royal Enfield written in bold. The price of some stuff has been mentioned by @surajit09 two pages back.
Jacket :
Armoured Leather : 14k
Leather : 12k
Textile : 7k
Boots:
short : 5500
long : 7500
Helmets :
Open ( with leather inside ) : 3500
Full face : around 5-6k
Gloves:
Full Gauntlet : 3500
Semi : 2500
Goggles : 5500
Mithun

[stefanm]

^^There's some pretty good stuff on offer with these guys, I like the riding jeans with CE rated armour in the knee and hip and the water proof boot covers (not found these in India) No RE logo visible on the riding jeans.

The gloves look ok for the money if they are higher spec/better than whats on offer at DSG.

[Kunwar.g]

Universal : Riding Gears Thread

They all have Royal Enfield written in bold. The price of some stuff has been mentioned by @surajit09 two pages back.
Jacket :
Armoured Leather : 14k
Leather : 12k
Textile : 7k
Boots:
short : 5500
long : 7500
Helmets :
Open ( with leather inside ) : 3500
Full face : around 5-6k
Gloves:
Full Gauntlet : 3500
Semi : 2500
Goggles : 5500
Mithun

Some Corrections

Textile Jacket with CE Approved Armor on Shoulder and elbow is for Rs 5500.00

Full Gauntlet Gloves are for Rs 2999.00

Helmet half - 3000
Full - 5000

The jeans with the claimed CE Approved knee and hip Armor is for 5300.00, however not worth it as the armor felt nothing more than a layer of hardened PU Foam.


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[B7ACKTHORN]

Hi all,

I already have Alpinestar Gloves and jacket and the next piece of kit I would like to buy is for knees/shins... And need some help/suggestions from those who have used them. I have searched through the forum, but have still not found any conclusive answers...

So firstly, is is better to go for riding pants (e.g. from Cramster or Planet DSG) or use knee guards under normal jeans? I understand both have their plus and minus, but my primary objective (at least for now) is using it daily for office commute - so practicality and ease of usability comes high on list.

1. Can the riding pants be used throughout the year or do they feel too hot in Delhi's summers?
2. Can the riding pants be worn over jeans (this would probably be only practical in winter season)?
3. How is the fitting of the Cramster Velocity 2.0 and DSG Nero pants - is there a risk for knee guards to move a lot in case of a fall or is there some way to tighten the pants around knee properly? Also, does the armor in these pants have shin protection too?
4. Any reviews/comparison on Cramster vs. DSG pants?
5. Can the Thor Sector (see link) or Ebay Fox (see link) or Ebay Raptor Fox (see link) be worn under normal jeans (slim fitting ones)?? I would prefer to wear them under jeans as outside they will scratch the tank of my CBR 250..
6. Any personal reviews on the knee guards mentioned above - are the ebay ones absolutely worthless?? Any other recommendation for slim profile knee guards?

In the worst case scenario, I will buy a pair of slim knee guards for wearing under jeans on a daily basis (if I can find any) and a riding pants only for long trips..

Okay, good reviews here, I think I'd share my two cents worth and keep it short. I myself have pants and knee guards. I use pants for sheer highway touring, nothing else. Kneepads for local driving, as it is convenient and practical>

Now to your firs point, can be used in Delhi summer? Absolutely, yes. I myself have did the same, and yes I usually sweat a lot and coupled with the liner, I was sweating a bit, but not to the extent I made a peeg out of myself. Remove the liner, and you have absolute airflow, which is a boon in these riding pants, compared to leather ones.

Second point, can be worn over jeans? Absolutely, yes. But considering the fact that in summer that too with a liner on, it'd be pretty messy inside. The same falls true, remove the liner and you get good airflow. Did the same thing in Delhi too, when I happened to drive by Karol Bagh and Chandni Chowk.

Cramster Velocity and DSG Nero have pretty much the same specs, liners etc, it just depends on which is cost effective for you and if you try them in person that'd be even a nice proposition for possible purchase.

Fourth point, any reviews? They both are same, more or less, so does review matter? That said, my friends use both Cramster and DSG, fit wise Cramster has a superb fit, almost like a jean. DSG with it's flunky pockets here and there, makes you look like you're a cowboy, but more or less offers good fit.

Fifth point and a very good point, tank scratch, yes it does. Solution, sticky tape as these are proven to reduce scratch and doesn't make your bike look shoddy.
Wearing over jeans, for a slim fit or pencil fit, a big no no. It's cumbersome to, at least in such a fit to wear the knee guards, as they significantly stretch your jeans and moreover might not allow your leg to go inside in the first place, but that's my view as I've never done that. But maybe if it works for you, you can post your reviews here.

Sixth point, is nothing but common discretion. Not all sold in eBay is fake, but knowing which to go for is the ball game. Invest in Thor kneepads, and from a genuine distributor, have read some really good reviews. But for your office use I'd suffice you go for genuine Cramster knee guard and a riding pant for that spirited days. If you worry about fakes in eBay, trust me, just go ahead with Cramster, you'll do just fine.

Also, try investing in a riding jeans if you're a JEANIE And why in jeans, is answered for the below question.

Hope I kept it short!

Some Corrections

Textile Jacket with CE Approved Armor on Shoulder and elbow is for Rs 5500.00

Full Gauntlet Gloves are for Rs 2999.00

Helmet half - 3000
Full - 5000

The jeans with the claimed CE Approved knee and hip Armor is for 5300.00, however not worth it as the armor felt nothing more than a layer of hardened PU Foam.

Not really, Kunwar Actually if you happen to look at A* and Icon gear, their armors are pretty much "wafer thin" and they are one of the best armors one can get out there. It doesn't mean, thick means protected, lean means you're not, it's different armor for different company, and all have one goal, prime protection and they must be approved to be legal.

But yes, don't expect jeans to be as protective as a riding pant, but yes, if we want some more protection out of the ordinary, riding jeans with armor are a very excellent proposition to look forward for.

Cheers!
VJ

[chiragsthakur]

Moved to helmet thread

[B7ACKTHORN]

got this today finally to ride my baby r1 Damages : 2.7k

Nice buy. But please post this in the Helmets thread. This thread is only for riding apparel stuff.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/4790-helmets.html

Cheers!
VJ

[Sunnyside_up!]

Actually if you happen to look at A* and Icon gear, their armors are pretty much "wafer thin" and they are one of the best armors one can get out there. It doesn't mean, thick means protected, lean means you're not, it's different armor for different company, and all have one goal, prime protection and they must be approved to be legal.

But yes, don't expect jeans to be as protective as a riding pant, but yes, if we want some more protection out of the ordinary, riding jeans with armor are a very excellent proposition to look forward for.

Cheers!
VJ

While true in the broad sense, most "CE " rated armor I've seen on jackets sold in India are simply pasted labels or stitched labels, akin to the " sticker" certification found on some helmets. Personally, in a scenario where certification is dubious at best, I would always choose thicker!

Regarding riding jeans, it should be known that the heat generated when contact is made with the asphalt at 60kmph is close to 600 degrees - or instant 3rd degree burn of your flesh, so it is pretty pointless to wear denim jeans that would burn/wear/tear through in a fraction of a second. I have road rash on my butt from a slide 12 years ago that bears testament to this truth. So while CE armor in the knees are essential, I would say that an abrasion resistant material like a Kevlar layer is equally important in riding jeans. That way, even when the denim gives way, your skin is still shielded by the Kevlar. Also, remember that the armor is held in place by the fabric, which if not abrasion resistant, would simply rip off in a fall, leaving you exposed. In fact I would say that riding jeans without an abrasion resistant material like Kevlar lining the stress points are a waste of your money.

[Dreamwalker987]

hey guys i need review on Cramster Spine protector....

[B7ACKTHORN]

While true in the broad sense, most "CE " rated armor I've seen on jackets sold in India are simply pasted labels or stitched labels, akin to the " sticker" certification found on some helmets. Personally, in a scenario where certification is dubious at best, I would always choose thicker!

Regarding riding jeans, it should be known that the heat generated when contact is made with the asphalt at 60kmph is close to 600 degrees - or instant 3rd degree burn of your flesh, so it is pretty pointless to wear denim jeans that would burn/wear/tear through in a fraction of a second. I have road rash on my butt from a slide 12 years ago that bears testament to this truth. So while CE armor in the knees are essential, I would say that an abrasion resistant material like a Kevlar layer is equally important in riding jeans. That way, even when the denim gives way, your skin is still shielded by the Kevlar. Also, remember that the armor is held in place by the fabric, which if not abrasion resistant, would simply rip off in a fall, leaving you exposed. In fact I would say that riding jeans without an abrasion resistant material like Kevlar lining the stress points are a waste of your money.

Very true. At least, as far as the jeans I know are mostly Kevlar lined, and I think it's bread and butter of the armored jean. I always see/read them as Kevlar jeans, anywhere I see it. But yes, thicker is better, at least in our situations. My point was, and as you've rightly quoted was in a broad sense, plus you know not all can be A* at least in India

hey guys i need review on Cramster Spine protector....

You'll have to wait I guess

Cheers!
VJ

[Dreamwalker987]

You'll have to wait I guess

Cheers!
VJ

Are you buying new one???

[Sunnyside_up!]

Very true. At least, as far as the jeans I know are mostly Kevlar lined, and I think it's bread and butter of the armored jean. I always see/read them as Kevlar jeans, anywhere I see it. But yes, thicker is better, at least in our situations. My point was, and as you've rightly quoted was in a broad sense, plus you know not all can be A* at least in India



You'll have to wait I guess

Cheers!
VJ

I don't think the jeans that were the topic of this discussion are lined with Kevlar - are they?

[mohan-san]

Bought couple of pairs of riding boots. One is Alpinestar boots (S-MX-1) from Planet DSG and the other pair from Orazo (Picus-Water Repellent). Both of them are great fitting and comfortable. Orazo boots are an all-around safety shoes with steel toes and everything but you have to get used to it when riding as they are kinda bulky like one of them Woodland jobs.Orazo boots come in UK sizes which is same as Indian sizes,if you use Bata shoes, then it is exactly the same size. Alpinestar as you know comes in European sizes. I got couple of picutres for you in case anybody is interested.