Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[nadz11.ns]

Re: Need help on jackets

guys it's been 24 hours has no one got anything for me.

Wait for sometime, members reply to all.

The jackets normally don't have back supports, they come with layered foam padding. Yours is a medical problem, so don't know what you should use.

As for the jacket in 7k range, Helios is the best bet.

[chaosaddict]

Re: Need help on jackets

My budget is low at around 7000 maximum and i am looking for a jacket with back support because i have some lower back problems due to a previous accident.

So please suggest me a possibly good enough jacket for i am not a frequent highway tourer and also give me some pointors about the spartan SPG Helios.

Please suggest me some good alternatives to spartan too keeping mind of the back support

thanks i am waiting for replies guys it's all on you!!

I guess there isn't any riding jacket that addresses back support requirements, like the one rendered by the tight waist belt. Most jackets will feature a foam padding in the back. many riders wear back protectors inside their jackets additionally to ensure a safe back in case of a fall; a ref. - British Power Knox Kompakt Back Protector Large Size KA0005 BK L | eBay I am sure there are cheaper counterparts like fox & A* replica.

Helios is a mesh jacket and has impressive protection features, especially by the knox armors. You can also look at Hyperion but that is a stretch. An advise would be to wear the waist belt for back problems, underneath the jacket - that should solve it.

[Jitu Gadkari]

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Hello bhpians, I'm planning for leh expedition. For that I need a good riding jacket, but in a LOW budget and the one which will suit on my Avenger.

Please can you suggest some good options?

Thanks in advance.
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[nadz11.ns]

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Nice article about armors.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/howto/122_1307_the_truth_about_ce_armor/?src=SOC&dom=fb

[satnammannn]

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Hey Friends, Suggest me some Knee Guards , Currently reviewed Spartan Perseus(found only knee protection, nothing for shin bone ).
Saw cramster knee guards also.
I guess there are very limited options for good knee protectors. For 1 time crash cheap ones are also good, but want to have some good one so that they can last longer.

Plz give some reviews for Cramster Knee Guards.

[vivek7593]

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Hey guys is cramster worth investing in?
I currently came across their bag ( laplace 4.0)
The reason i liked this bag is because of it helmet carrying feature..
But i am getting mixed view on cramster ol ..
My usage would be rough.. Will survive daily abuse??


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[TurboJC]

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Hi everyone! I've been looking to buy a riding jacket, but unfortunately, I haven't been able to find one for my size. I've tried Spartan, Rjays, and DSG, and the biggest size all the dealers in Chennai have is XXL, which is a tight fit for me.

Can anyone sugges jackets that have a generous fit, and where I can get one? My shirt size is 44, and my waist size is 44 as well, while my budget is under Rs 10k.


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[Doga]

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I visited babloo motors yest to check spartan products.Had no idea before that they stock spartan too. The spartan site lists them as raunak enterprises.
The helios is a well rounded jacket, but offers a bit of a lousey fit. Especially the arms.They didnt have size m so tried the L and the elbow armors would keep on slipping around.May be M would fit me as the icarus M was a nice fit and looked sharper.
I liked the icarus, especially its price given the features.Had almost picked it up but decided to wait for the helios size M.
There is a confusion now. I liked the icarus so much that I am trying to convince myself to but it over the helios. So I decided, to lookup the net to check if the knox armour in the helios are that good to demand the premium.
As it turns out, the flexiform armour supplied in the helios is a very good armour only allowing around 25kn whereas the standard allows 35 kn. BUT it is still level 1 armour.

http://www.planet-knox.com/en/product/knox-flexiform-ce-protector-part-48/

Its PU too like the one coming with the icarus.If it were level 2, I would havent given a 2nd thought but since its level 1, I want to understand how much better it is than the PU armour in the icarus.
Problem is the branding on the jacket doesnt even mention CE rated armour, although the armor itself does have CE 1621-1 type b engraved, but hiw do we check the level. The spartan site also doesnt tell us the make of the armor. Is it powertector like what rjays swift comes with? Can someone pointout the tech spec of the armor pls? [MENTION=45506]sunnys[/MENTION]ideup?


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[B7ACKTHORN]

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SCOOP!

Though Bachoo Motors have enlisted these Tarmac boots in their website, it was quite a revelation when I come across the design pattern.

I currently own a Pair of the Zeus boot from Spartan. Off late, visiting a KTM showroom here, the chaps in the showroom wanted me to sell look a boot they had to offer for sale. Two colors one was orange and the other was Rossi fluorescent yellow colored boot, ditto to my Spartan Zeus only it being half ankle, the price quoted was 8k. (my smartphone was dead, couldn't snap a picture)

Now fast forward, some research into where these boots originally are emanating from is the big question. Secondly the folks were absolutely "mum" when further inquired about the product.

So Tarmac, Spartan Zeus, and the unnamed boot sold by the KTM folks are manufactured in the same production house? China? Pak? India? Absolutely no clue! I SPECULATE it's the second one in the list, but again I could be wrong.

Check out the Tarmac boots from Bachoo. Look closely at the sole pattern, and the ROAD GRIP embossing prominent on all the soles. And if you'll even look more closely you can see the size tag too the same imprinted in UK US and EUR on all the boots are once again, ditto . And look how the ankle cup molding are look familiar.






And these are the Spartan Zeus Boots




Starkly though the boots offered by KTM chaps in the showroom (orange and Rossi fluorescent yellow) are absolutely fine-to-the-print on the spec sheet as those above, except they were shot ankle boots.

Though the boots do their job real good and offer excellent VFM proposition and now I can at least bring it to a reasonable assumption that these boots are indeed manufactured by the same production house with different designs for different vendors at different price propositions.

P.S. This is just a personal review of what I've observed and experienced.

Hey guys is cramster worth investing in?
I currently came across their bag ( laplace 4.0)
The reason i liked this bag is because of it helmet carrying feature..
But i am getting mixed view on cramster ol ..
My usage would be rough.. Will survive daily abuse??


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Cramster Laplace is a very good bag, quite a few in my circle own them and it's a real boon when it comes to helmet portability. I'd suggest to go for one.

I visited babloo motors yest to check spartan products.Had no idea before that they stock spartan too. The spartan site lists them as raunak enterprises.
The helios is a well rounded jacket, but offers a bit of a lousey fit. Especially the arms.They didnt have size m so tried the L and the elbow armors would keep on slipping around.May be M would fit me as the icarus M was a nice fit and looked sharper.
I liked the icarus, especially its price given the features.Had almost picked it up but decided to wait for the helios size M.
There is a confusion now. I liked the icarus so much that I am trying to convince myself to but it over the helios. So I decided, to lookup the net to check if the knox armour in the helios are that good to demand the premium.
As it turns out, the flexiform armour supplied in the helios is a very good armour only allowing around 25kn whereas the standard allows 35 kn. BUT it is still level 1 armour.
Knox Flexiform Original Equipment Protectors

Its PU too like the one coming with the icarus.If it were level 2, I would havent given a 2nd thought but since its level 1, I want to understand how much better it is than the PU armour in the icarus.
Problem is the branding on the jacket doesnt even mention CE rated armour, although the armor itself does have CE 1621-1 type b engraved, but hiw do we check the level. The spartan site also doesnt tell us the make of the armor. Is it powertector like what rjays swift comes with? Can someone pointout the tech spec of the armor pls? @sunnysideup?


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A really good question, Doga. Secondly if you look closely Powertector doesn't state any sort information about the Level. But even though Sunny can add some color to it. I certainly think that Level 1 protectors (foam type) do come as standard in most jackets as a "back protector" and most of the jackets out there do indeed have Level 2 for EN1621-1 (shoulder/elbows) as opposed to EN1621-2 spine and posterior.

Cheers!
VJ

[Doga]

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Vj, the foam/ dual density armors in the back compartment of most jackets sold are not CE certified. Certainly not affirming to EN 1621-2 which is the standard followed for spine protectors. The 2 sitting there is to differentiate from the 1 in EN1621-1 which is a standard for limb protectors to confirm to.Now the spine protection standard is sometimes called a level 2, may be because it is more stringent force transmission parameters wise(hey it is our spine) and the testing is a bit different too. But each of these two standards have levels of their own. Each higher level allowing lesser force transmission than the smaller. The level 1 for EN1621-1 allows no more than 35 kn of median force(average of all test cases).

The level two would allow less still.Right now I think CE have a level 3 declared, but not sure.

What i am sure of is that the knox in helios is a level 1. Because the knox site publishes everything.

The icarus jacket doesn't reveal the origin of the armor so i cannot compare the specs. Even if it were powertector , I couldn't find an official site but realized that huge number of gear come with that armor, so would be a bit trust worthy. Or may be I should stop thinking much and go get a jacket ...too much analysis doesn't serve anything

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[rusty_mechs]

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Hey guys is cramster worth investing in?
I currently came across their bag ( laplace 4.0)
The reason i liked this bag is because of it helmet carrying feature..
But i am getting mixed view on cramster ol ..
My usage would be rough.. Will survive daily abuse??


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I have been using the Cramster Laplace for close to 2 years now and I have subjected the bag to a lot of abuse. Till now it has served me really well. In fact this bag has made carrying helmets so convenient that I will surely buy this bag again once this one runs out of life..
Also the bag has a lot of luggage space which once again comes handy on all sorts of trips.

[B7ACKTHORN]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Vj, the foam/ dual density armors in the back compartment of most jackets sold are not CE certified. Certainly not affirming to EN 1621-2 which is the standard followed for spine protectors. The 2 sitting there is to differentiate from the 1 in EN1621-1 which is a standard for limb protectors to confirm to.Now the spine protection standard is sometimes called a level 2, may be because it is more stringent force transmission parameters wise(hey it is our spine) and the testing is a bit different too. But each of these two standards have levels of their own. Each higher level allowing lesser force transmission than the smaller. The level 1 for EN1621-1 allows no more than 35 kn of median force(average of all test cases).

The level two would allow less still.Right now I think CE have a level 3 declared, but not sure.

What i am sure of is that the knox in helios is a level 1. Because the knox site publishes everything.

The icarus jacket doesn't reveal the origin of the armor so i cannot compare the specs. Even if it were powertector , I couldn't find an official site but realized that huge number of gear come with that armor, so would be a bit trust worthy. Or may be I should stop thinking much and go get a jacket ...too much analysis doesn't serve anything

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Yes you're right. But as i mentioned above the CE rated spine/back protectors are avlbl only as an accessory for most jackets and some offer with proper CE rated as standard package.
But to your point most entry level jackets do come with Powertector as opposed to Knox SAS TEC etc etc which are comparatively costly. Powertector does stick to some bigger brands too, Googling should have yielded you the results.

Powertector is a Korean brand. And it does have a website. Google Powertector armor and choose the English website.

Don't worry as long as you have a certified armor as opposed to the foam types you're safe... For now...

Cheers!
VJ

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[Eshan-P180]

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Any reviews for Spartan Boots, Has any member here has Zeus (Sport) or Hercules (Touring) boots??

[nadz11.ns]

re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Any reviews for Spartan Boots, Has any member here has Zeus (Sport) or Hercules (Touring) boots??

A member had reviewed Hercules boots. Do a google search with 'xBhp' tag.

[Eshan-P180]

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A member had reviewed Hercules boots. Do a google search with 'xBhp' tag.

Thanx buddy, I read that review, any other for Hercules.

Can SunnysideUp help out!!! Iam not able to locate Magazine or other firms reviewing the boots (Gear).