Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[eternoMind]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Recently switched to an HID (no projector) in my GS150R after trying out an Osram NB 60/55w. The latter cost 800 bucks while the HID cost me 900 bucks with another 150 rupees for the installation.

This was the illumination with the Osram. Alright but certainly not up to my expectations. INR 800 wasted.



First picture after installing the HID and turning it on. Horrible horrible bluish white light that almost made me feel duped on having been sold a non-4300K HID.



However, after using it a while, the temperature settled into a nice whitish yellow hue that is quite good.
Below is the low beam.



Below is the high beam.



The throw/reach on the low beam is not to my satisfaction. It's best suited for 50-60 kmph rides. But I have to make do as raising the beam level any higher results in problematic glare for oncoming traffic. I prefer to be on the safer side and will need to play around with the light positioning a bit before getting the right balance between the throw that I want and what can hurt oncoming traffic.

In the meantime, I went through the thread posts since the start of the year and it looks as if LEDs are the 'in thing' now. I wish I could have waited a while and got those spot lights instead of the HID. Sigh!

[RedWingRider]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Is that upgrade worth that money or its better to look for some HID or LED setup.

[Veeral]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hey guys. I Own a duke 390. Recently replaced stock bulb with Philips XV 55w. Have attached some pic for your reference. Sorry didn't click any pic with stock bulb so basically you won't be able to compare.


Didnt find a major difference under street light. But in pitch dark this helps.

[gunner143]

Re: Auxillary lights for pulsar 150

Hey all,

I have a pulsar 150 (2002) . The headlight is very weak as in it doesnt light up the road at all. just a tiny spot on the road 7-8 m away. Due to my commute in the the dark with no street light at places , I am looking for auxillary lamps that can light up the road upto say 40m . Can anyone suggest what type should I use and where should I mount the auxilary lamps ( I am thinking crash guard). My budget is around 2k . Also could I get to know reputed shops in Karol Bagh where I can get the work done.

I will suggest you to get a pair of 18w led aux lamps (cost about Rs1600 for a pair)

But check the output just to confirm they are in spot configuration, because if you get flood beam your light be pretty much useless for on road performance.

All shopkeepers will quote exhorbant wattage values for their lights, so dont be scared.
18w led light comes in 2 row configuration with 3 leds each.
Might charge a high price at start so feel free to bargain.

[joshdsy]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Has anyone installed a 80 watt bulb to thier as200 I wanted to know if the lens can withstand the heat the default is a 55 watt h7

[Saksham Verenkar]

Auxillary lights for pulsar 150

Hey all,

I have a pulsar 150 (2002) . The headlight is very weak as in it doesnt light up the road at all. just a tiny spot on the road 7-8 m away. Due to my commute in the the dark with no street light at places , I am looking for auxillary lamps that can light up the road upto say 40m . Can anyone suggest what type should I use and where should I mount the auxilary lamps ( I am thinking crash guard). My budget is around 2k . Also could I get to know reputed shops in Karol Bagh where I can get the work done.

[gunner143]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Got some pics after refocusing the Osram Leds today. Compared with 55W HID high beam. Notice how focused and how far throw of OSRAM Leds are. The building and trees at the back are also lit brightly. It looks more bright in real than in photos and the throw is more than 100Mts.

55W HID's high beam
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Osram Leds
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I am going forward with the setup i discussed with you earlier.
18w leds for short range & 30w leds for long range both with separate switches.
Just waiting for those 30w leds to arrive from aliexpress.

[gunner143]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Can you please share the link for osram led lights.

Here you go.
OSRAM 30w LED Work Light Bar Offroad Spot Beam Offroad 12V 24V LED Driving Light ATV Trailer Camper Motorcycle Truck 4x4 4WD UTV

http://s.aliexpress.com/yY7f6Zfu

(from AliExpress Android)

[techfreak]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Can you please share the link for osram led lights.

[Skanda]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

And what about 30w osrams ?

Got some pics after refocusing the Osram Leds today. Compared with 55W HID high beam. Notice how focused and how far throw of OSRAM Leds are. The building and trees at the back are also lit brightly. It looks more bright in real than in photos and the throw is more than 100Mts.

55W HID's high beam


Osram Leds

[r0rshack]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Just an info i'd like to share:

While choosing LED bulbs in the default Reflector, without any projector housing, it is important to know about the filament positions of the bulb.


The ones with the wide spread COB led's seriously mess up the light and hence the dazzling beam which is not focussed.

more here:

I think it is always better to choose the bulbs that have their positions closely similar to the filaments on the standard H4 or HS1.

the reason i posted this was, when i looked at some LED headlight designs which had the LEDs only facing upwards and totally shielded downwards, i was confused how the high beam would be effective at all!?.. but then the position of the high beam led matters here, and if it is positioned at/behind the focal point of the reflector, the out-comming rays of light would be parallel/diverge causing the high beam effect. Yes, it would be better to have the led lighting the bottom part of the reflector, but the top part of the reflector also plays a part in high beam.

[Skanda]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

And what about 30w osrams ?

30W is rated and actual is 10W. So pair of 30W for your bike should consume 20W in total.

[gunner143]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

I had 36W CREE led's and I sold them. I now have a pair of 60W OSRAM Leds. Their actual consumption is 20W per led bar. So total consumption is 40W and the rated for a pair is 120W. Its a huge difference but I am very happy with the light output.

And what about 30w osrams ?

[Skanda]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Whats the amp consumption of you 36w leds on your getz per light??
Also u said tledsosram 30w leds actually consume about 10w, is this consumption for 2 lights or 1 light takes 10w ??

I had 36W CREE led's and I sold them. I now have a pair of 60W OSRAM Leds. Their actual consumption is 20W per led bar. So total consumption is 40W and the rated for a pair is 120W. Its a huge difference but I am very happy with the light output.

[gunner143]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

1. Phillips and Osram are good brands in India coasting almost 10k. Others are generic China make and check for Zenex ballast. Check this video https://youtu.be/fPZ9-GaOvE0

2. Ballast is what produces high voltage required for the arc to develop in the bulbs. This is the single most important thing in hid's.

3. Of course you need for hid's. Led's have driver and hid's have ballast. Invest in good one.

4. There are many projectors which do not take the heat from 55w ballast. Bulbs are same for 55 and 35w, just the ballast differ. Good projector headlight can take 55w, but there are very few of them. And also, many 55w ballast just produces 35 to 40w and many 35 ones produces only 20 to 25. So investing in good ballast is very important.

5. There won't be much impact if you use it while the vehicle is on. Else it drains quickly.

6. If your projector can take 55w, them by all means you can use 55w ballast.

7. 4300k or 5000k at the max. Others have very poor visibility when it rains.

8. Point 7

9. Another important thing is, never use hids in projector that is meant for halogens. They both are very different and hid's produces more heat than halogens. If you use hid's in halogen projector, they might melt or the reflector would get damaged producing very less light over time.

Whats the amp consumption of you 36w leds on your getz per light??
Also u said tledsosram 30w leds actually consume about 10w, is this consumption for 2 lights or 1 light takes 10w ??