Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[theironhorse99]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hello Guys,

Planning to change the indicators of my Pulsar 220S (the one with the normal Pulsar dome) to ones like those found in Duke. I have seen good options in AliExpress and planning to order them. Upon checking with my mechanic, he says that there is no flasher in Pulsar 220 and it may not work.

Pls help me out here. Do I need to order anything else along(like a decoder or relay etc) with the LED indicator to make this work?

Thanks
Srinath

ever automobile with indicators have flasher now there are 2 types.
analog flashers - most of the motorcycle and cars
digital flashers - duke 200-250-390 and maybe some more running LED indicators.


so if you change to LED indicators they will work however the rate of speed will increase as the analogue flasher works on load. once you out low powered LED it will assume one of the bulb is blown and starts flashing rapidly. check if you bike has a 2 /3 pin flasher. and order a similar digital flasher with matching pins from aliexpress( 150-200 bucks) and you are set.

[Hunterkol]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

A small and naive query. I tried searching through the thread but, I failed to yield any credible results and so, I humbly request few suggestions from individuals about my issue.
I have a Pulsar AS200, with DC setup powering H7 headlights with low beam being a projector headlamp. Yes, it is stock however, I had been using the Osram Nightbreaker for over 2 years now in the projector. I have never used my highbeams apart from taking passes on highways or in any trips I have been to simply because it was never needed. No, I do not have an aux setup either. Now, the projector beams is fading, it is evident and I am looking for a replacement bulb which would help me be able to see better since, the current beam is effective only in the dark that too, the intensity is very poor.
I am leaving for Bhutan this September and I can't afford a HID setup which would cost me nearly 14k because it is better to change the Projector with it since, the stocks is not of the standard or effective enough. I did get myself 2 pairs of LED Aux lamps (1 pair 20w each spots & 1 pair 30w floods) which I will install once you guys judge whether the battery will be able to take that load. Second, a set of replacement bulbs for both Hi Beam reflector and Low beam projector within 2 to 2.5k. I am thinking of an LED headlamp bulb for hi beam but can't put an LED bulb in the projector, it never works efficiently.
Your kind suggestions will be highly appreciated brothers.

[ashwinprakas]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hello Guys,

Planning to change the indicators of my Pulsar 220S (the one with the normal Pulsar dome) to ones like those found in Duke. I have seen good options in AliExpress and planning to order them. Upon checking with my mechanic, he says that there is no flasher in Pulsar 220 and it may not work.

Pls help me out here. Do I need to order anything else along(like a decoder or relay etc) with the LED indicator to make this work?

Thanks
Srinath

Quite contrary to that belief not having a flasher especially a mechanical one would guarantee that LED's work on the P220.

[srinath34]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hello Guys,

Planning to change the indicators of my Pulsar 220S (the one with the normal Pulsar dome) to ones like those found in Duke. I have seen good options in AliExpress and planning to order them. Upon checking with my mechanic, he says that there is no flasher in Pulsar 220 and it may not work.

Pls help me out here. Do I need to order anything else along(like a decoder or relay etc) with the LED indicator to make this work?

Thanks
Srinath

[deejayrox]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Have the same question, difference between 9D and 5D

Well every year chinese guys keep increasing the number of D's and supposedly the higher number of D's is the newer design and the better one. Basically they are changing or improving the lens design to improve the focus and illumination and they claim with each successive "D" better light output for same LED chip and same power consumption. If it is true or not, well you got to see for yourself.

[tremonade]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

I was just about to order that aux LED bulb you mentioned, but got confused about 5D and 9D. Both have the same number of LED's and same wattage, then what's the difference?
BTW they are mentioning in the product info that the actual power consumption is 11 watts only, so I guess I can buy 2 of these easily for Unicorn 160R?

Have the same question, difference between 9D and 5D

[arya809]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Get the 5D Spot light if you want a far reaching light throw (useful for highways)

I was just about to order that aux LED bulb you mentioned, but got confused about 5D and 9D. Both have the same number of LED's and same wattage, then what's the difference?
BTW they are mentioning in the product info that the actual power consumption is 11 watts only, so I guess I can buy 2 of these easily for Unicorn 160R?

[tremonade]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

I'm looking to add a few lights to my Gixxer SF. So I need a few suggestions as to which to get. My requirements are:

1. LED headlight
Which one is better? There are many in the market like M02G, M02K and so on and on.

2.Pilot light and number plate light
Well, I need a white LED to match the LED of the headlight. So the stock yellow one will look weird. Also a bright white LED for the number plate would be a better option I feel.

3. Aux Lights
I saw a few Cree U7 lights with high and low beam. Should I get that? Or should I get a pair of 6x2 LED lights or something else? I would like to have a broader light view closeby.

4. Bar end lights with DRL and indicators.

5. I know this isnt the right thread, but if you can also suggest a pair of loud horns under 1k INR, it would be great. It should be louder than the stock ones, and I'm also not a fan of the RE horns.

So yeah, if I add these lights, will it affect my battery in any way?

[vvk1999]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hi Guys,


I'm looking for headlight replacement for my Gixxer 155. Currently with stock. Since mine have the AHO feature, I do not want to go for 55+W bulbs and fade my reflector soon (bike is only 8 months old with 7000 kms clocked). So, have anyone tried and tested any other LED bulbs that suit the reflector design? I'm okay with aux lights too.


Please suggest me options in both headlamp LEDs and aux lights. Thanks in advance.

lots of LEDs r available now a days . If u r leaving in foggy or rainy area better use 4000k/ 4300k LEDs . LEDs costs from ₹1000 to ₹2000 from ur choice . ali express have great variety.

[Angurj]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hi Guys,


I'm looking for headlight replacement for my Gixxer 155. Currently with stock. Since mine have the AHO feature, I do not want to go for 55+W bulbs and fade my reflector soon (bike is only 8 months old with 7000 kms clocked). So, have anyone tried and tested any other LED bulbs that suit the reflector design? I'm okay with aux lights too.


Please suggest me options in both headlamp LEDs and aux lights. Thanks in advance.

[maahinberi]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

I don't mean to question your choice or knowledge, but are those aux led lights really that great, compared to a LED bulb put in stock reflector? Because my LED bulb setup in the stock headlight reflector throws light till around 150 meters on a busy road and I was under the impression that no aux lights can match this depth because of their shallow reflector bowls. I just need you to provide confirming views, that's all, I am not looking for an argument or anything.

The 5D Aux lights that I have use convex lenses to focus the beam. The resultant beam is only 10 degree wide but illuminates till far.

Nonetheless, When changing the LED bulb in the reflector is an easy fix, I always recommend that as the first step before trying Aux Lights.
In case of poor quality reflector, or AC headlight setup or, as in this case, integrated headlight in which the bulb is not changeable, I recommend Aux lights.
In this case, Aux lights would be cheaper and simpler than replacing the entire headlight assembly.

I have recently purchased a Dominar, which too comes with integrated LED headlight. While the throw is good, I feel the beam is not very wide.
This is a slight problem on curvy roads or sweeping flyovers, as the apex of the turn is dark.
So, I plan to move my Aux lights from the FZ to the Dominar and was thinking of installing them pointing slightly outwards to get a wider beam of light.
If that doesn't work too well, I might look at getting Flood lights to increase the width of beam.

P.S. Another observation to add to your comparison of stock headlight reflector vs aux lights is the hotspot.
Stock Headlight reflectors have the hotspot at the top of the beam and the intensity gradually reduces downwards.
This means that on the road, you get a very even spread as the light going the furthest distance is brightest and the light nearest to your bike is duller.

With Aux lights on the other hand the entire beam pattern is uniform. So the light falling closer to your bike seems brighter than the light falling further away. This also gives an impression that the aux lights don't have a very far reaching throw.

Many people also prefer to have lesser light falling close to the vehicle as our eyes adapt to the brightness close to the vehicle causing the light farther away to seem duller. On the other hand, if you don't have much light close to the vehicle, your eyes will adapt more to the ambient light and you will be able to see farther down the road.

So there are a lot of points to consider, but at the end of the day, I feel if you don't have any other option, Aux lights will definitely add some more light,
and you can never have too much light

[arya809]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

LED Aux lights are the best value for money in my opinion. You can get a decent pair within 2-2.5k
I have had a great experience with them on my FZ.

I don't mean to question your choice or knowledge, but are those aux led lights really that great, compared to a LED bulb put in stock reflector? Because my LED bulb setup in the stock headlight reflector throws light till around 150 meters on a busy road and I was under the impression that no aux lights can match this depth because of their shallow reflector bowls. I just need you to provide confirming views, that's all, I am not looking for an argument or anything.

[maahinberi]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Arya, thanks for checking out the specs for me. However, as Maahinberi mentioned, it seems it is not possible to change the headlight bulb of my FZ25 as it is integrated into the headlight assembly.

So, I thought my option was limited to Aux lights.
With that in mind, I tried calling stores to get an idea about the cost of installation for such Aux LEDs. Me being a complete noob in electricals, I thought I will be best served by the Pros. I do not have any knowledge of the brands and their warranty or support. One of the stores mentioned to me that they will be able to fit an HID on my FZ. It will be a 6000K light with a warranty of 2 years. Approx cost of installation? - 14k INR. While fitting an HID is obviously a tempting proposition, it is way out of my budget.

Now, I am back to Aux LED hunting business again. I searched for the Aux lights Skanda mentioned few pages back but those are not available anymore it seems. Do you have any other suggestions for me? I do not mind spending up to 5K INR if I can get the peace of mind in terms of the quality, product warranty, and support.
Please let me know your suggestions.

Thanks again for your help!

LED Aux lights are the best value for money in my opinion. You can get a decent pair within 2-2.5k
I have had a great experience with them on my FZ.

You can look at:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4-inch-30W-4D-LED-Work-Light-Bar-for-Tractor-Boat-OffRoad-4WD-4x4-Truck-SUV/32624759519.html

These are the same lights that I am using and I am very happy with them.

Get the 5D Spot light if you want a far reaching light throw (useful for highways)
Get the 5D Flood light if you want a broad light throw (Useful on curvy or hilly roads)
Get both if you want both

There are many options available on amazon.in as well, but I would suggest get atleast 30w lights. The 30w LED aux lights actually draw only 12-15w per light and my fz did not give me any electrical or battery troubles while using them.

[arsenalfan001]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

@arsenalfan001
I tried finding the type of LED bulb used in FZ25 headlight but failed to do so. You will have to first find out the bulb's base type like H1, H4, H7 etc. Either ask the Yamaha SVC guys or open up the headlight to check visually. Then you will have to find the same type of bulb online, try to buy from gearbest, aliexpress or dx.com, these sites are much cheaper compared to indian websites. Do note that it takes around 10-40 days depending on the site, seller and courier brand. Gearbest uses GATI courier company which is superfast, I get products in 7-10 days via Gati!
It's a DIY (do it yourself) job, you don't necessarily need to goto a mechanic. Else any roadside mechanic can open up the headlight and fit the bulb easily. Do note that you have to measure the CLEARANCE i.e. space around the stock led bulb on the outer side to accomodate the LED bulb's fan assembly. Check the measurements on the websites and then match it with your bike's space. In general, I don't think you need to worry a lot because FZ has got ample space behind the stock bulbs.

I don't think you can change the headlight bulb in the FZ25 as it uses integrated LEDs.
I think the best option for you would be to go with Aux lights

You can look at Skanda's recommendation for Aux lights here:
https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/univers...d-etc-593.html

Arya, thanks for checking out the specs for me. However, as Maahinberi mentioned, it seems it is not possible to change the headlight bulb of my FZ25 as it is integrated into the headlight assembly.

So, I thought my option was limited to Aux lights.
With that in mind, I tried calling stores to get an idea about the cost of installation for such Aux LEDs. Me being a complete noob in electricals, I thought I will be best served by the Pros. I do not have any knowledge of the brands and their warranty or support. One of the stores mentioned to me that they will be able to fit an HID on my FZ. It will be a 6000K light with a warranty of 2 years. Approx cost of installation? - 14k INR. While fitting an HID is obviously a tempting proposition, it is way out of my budget.

Now, I am back to Aux LED hunting business again. I searched for the Aux lights Skanda mentioned few pages back but those are not available anymore it seems. Do you have any other suggestions for me? I do not mind spending up to 5K INR if I can get the peace of mind in terms of the quality, product warranty, and support.
Please let me know your suggestions.

Thanks again for your help!

[maahinberi]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

@maahinberi
Thanks for replying. Yes my headlight bulb also lights up both LED's when switched to high beam, but that doesn't mean the upper/high beam will get any advantage from the low beam's light, and my high beam LED is of 10 watts only. I should have chosen a different one now that I think of it, still not that bad.
BTW the problem with bad focus is solved. I installed the bulb in a hurry initially, the bulb was hanging mid-air around half cm away from the reflector. I opened it up few days back and bent the U spring in order to fit it properly. Now the focus is as good and wide as a halogen bulb.

Glad to hear that

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Hey guys,

I am looking to upgrade the lights on my fz25. I ride for about 15kms on a highway everyday after 7:30 pm. Now the stock one is very poor during night rides and I need better lights.
What are my options? Please share your experiences and suggestions. Oh and I'm feom Kolkata, so if you are aware of any workshop where I can get the mod done, it would be great.
Thanks!

I don't think you can change the headlight bulb in the FZ25 as it uses integrated LEDs.
I think the best option for you would be to go with Aux lights

You can look at Skanda's recommendation for Aux lights here:

https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/4803-let-there-light-bike-lighting-hid-etc-593.html