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  • Hi friends,

    I am thinking about using K&N airfilter on my Fazer. I need your help in knowing the following things before doing that.

    1. Which is good, K&N 1060 or 1100 or? I know there is a price diff but still I am curious to know. Also which one suits fazer more? I see that it is available in diff shapes, but I am not sure of the shape in my bike. This is all new to me, sorry if my question sounds too basic.

    2. I see that people are talking about tuning the carbs, jetting, and a lot of other stuffs that need to be done along with the airfilter installation. But Do the mechanic know it all and will do it at the time of installation? Or we have to push them to do that?

    3. And why some people fit it directly to the engine(carb?) while some others are fitting it under the seat of the bike? I hear that 'fit it in the box' what does that actually mean?

    Thank you so much for all your help :-)

    Last edited by shaunm; 01-17-2013, 05:30 PM.

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    • Originally posted by shaunm View Post
      Hi friends,I am thinking about using K&N airfilter on my Fazer. I need your help in knowing the following things before doing that.1. Which is good, K&N 1060 or 1100 or? I know there is a price diff but still I am curious to know. Also which one suits fazer more? I see that it is available in diff shapes, but I am not sure of the shape in my bike. This is all new to me, sorry if my question sounds too basic. 2. I see that people are talking about tuning the carbs, jetting, and a lot of other stuffs that need to be done along with the airfilter installation. But Do the mechanic know it all and will do it at the time of installation? Or we have to push them to do that? 3. And why some people fit it directly to the engine(carb?) while some others are fitting it under the seat of the bike? I hear that 'fit it in the box' what does that actually mean? Thank you so much for all your help :-)
      these free flow air filters work by letting more air in, but more air without tuning means lean AFR which lowers power plus, increased engine temperature. Which ultimately means low engine life. That's why tuning & jetting is needed. People fit it on to the carb, because it makes a free flow filter, further free-er flowing (also means much leaner if proper tuning is not done) Experts recommend to 'fit it in box' also because air box also regulates air from crank case and supply air to secondary air supply unit. Not using air box will mean either you are letting your engine ingest dust or blocking the internal air circulation for various purpose. By the way, everything is answered some pages ago.
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      • Bro how is a performance of k&n air filter YA1611 compared to stock air filter. is there any improvement in performance . like in mileage or pickup. because there is printed in top of k&n filter box " increase horsepower and acceleration".please tell me ur experience of k&n filter in detail.

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        • Anybody know about hurricane air filters?

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          • A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

            For the very time when I took my stunner to a mechanic for service outside the authorized service center, he pointed it out to me that the service center guys usually put oil over the air filter which results in choking of the air filter after a run of around 8-10k kms as it is not possible to remove that sticking dust from the AF. He then replaced that AF and kept the new one in place without draining any oil through it as he reasoned that a dry AF can be cleaned of dust. What do you guys say about it ??

            Please put a brief explanation in your reply.

            Warm Regards,
            Pranav


            Use riding gears because Safety doesn't happen by Accident

            Spot me covered in:
            Vega Shadow - SPG Icarus - SPG Ares - SPG Perseus

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            • Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

              Originally posted by xpranav View Post
              For the very time when I took my stunner to a mechanic for service outside the authorized service center, he pointed it out to me that the service center guys usually put oil over the air filter which results in choking of the air filter after a run of around 8-10k kms as it is not possible to remove that sticking dust from the AF. He then replaced that AF and kept the new one in place without draining any oil through it as he reasoned that a dry AF can be cleaned of dust. What do you guys say about it ??

              Please put a brief explanation in your reply.
              For stock air filters I don't think using oil is necessary. In many ASCs, they just clean the filter of dust by blowing air through it and tapping on the ground. No much cleaning effort goes into it. Specially the oil part. Its not needed.

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              • Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

                Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                For stock air filters I don't think using oil is necessary. In many ASCs, they just clean the filter of dust by blowing air through it and tapping on the ground. No much cleaning effort goes into it. Specially the oil part. Its not needed.

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                It really came to me as a surprise, when my mechanic took out the oiled AF from the bike to show me ............. he told me that when your bike clocks around 10k kilometers, the guys at ASC are ready with their bill of replacements, which becomes necessary only because of their ill-practices of service !! Now, though I have replaced that oil soaked AF and have a dry stock filter fitted in my stunner.

                Warm Regards,
                Pranav


                Use riding gears because Safety doesn't happen by Accident

                Spot me covered in:
                Vega Shadow - SPG Icarus - SPG Ares - SPG Perseus

                Honda CBF Stunner - Oct'11 to till date | Barky's Baby: Honda CBF 125 Modification

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                • Re: Air Filters - Universal Thread

                  Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                  Guys, just found this, not sure if it's been posted earlier, so if it is then mods, feel free to remove.

                  Jet Conversion.


                  Width------Keihin # -- DynoJet # -- Mikuni #
                  0,0350---- 92,5--------- 92----------- 86,3
                  0,0360---- 95----------- 94----------- 88,1
                  0,0370---- 97,5--------- 96----------- 90,0
                  0,0380---- 100---------- 98----------- 91,9
                  0,0390---- 102,5------- 100---------- 93,8
                  0,0400---- 105--------- 102---------- 95,6
                  0,0410---- 107,5------- 104---------- 97,5
                  0,0420---- 110--------- 106---------- 99,4
                  0,0430---- 112,5------- 108--------- 101,3
                  0,0440---- 115--------- 110--------- 103,1
                  0,0450---- 117,5------- 112--------- 105,0
                  0,0460---- 120--------- 114--------- 106,9
                  0,0470---- 122,5------- 116--------- 108,8
                  0,0480---- 125--------- 118--------- 110,6
                  0,0490---- 127,5------- 120--------- 112,5
                  0,0500---- 130--------- 122--------- 114,4
                  0,0510---- 132,5------- 124--------- 116,3
                  0,0520---- 135--------- 126--------- 118,1
                  0,0530---- 137,5------- 128--------- 120,0
                  0,0540---- 140--------- 130--------- 121,9
                  0,0550---- 142,5------- 132--------- 123,8
                  0,0560---- 145--------- 134--------- 125,6
                  0,0570---- 147,5------- 136--------- 127,5
                  0,0580---- 150--------- 138--------- 129,4
                  0,0590---- 152,5------- 140--------- 131,3
                  0,0600---- 155--------- 142--------- 133,1
                  0,0610---- 157,5------- 144--------- 135,0
                  0,0620---- 160--------- 146--------- 136,9
                  0,0630---- 162,5------- 148--------- 138,8
                  0,0640---- 165--------- 150--------- 140,6
                  0,0650---- 167,5------- 152--------- 142,5
                  0,0660---- 170--------- 154--------- 144,4
                  0,0670---- 172,5------- 156--------- 146,3
                  0,0680---- 175--------- 158--------- 148,1
                  0,0690---- 177,5------- 160--------- 150,0
                  0,0700---- 180--------- 162--------- 151,9
                  0,0710---- 182,5------- 164--------- 153,8
                  0,0720---- 185--------- 166--------- 155,6
                  0,0730---- 187,5------- 168--------- 157,5
                  0,0740---- 190--------- 170--------- 159,4
                  0,0750---- 192,5------- 172--------- 161,3
                  0,0760---- 195--------- 174--------- 163,1
                  0,0770---- 197,5------- 176--------- 165,0
                  0,0780---- 200--------- 178--------- 166,9
                  0,0790---- 202,5------- 180--------- 168,8
                  0,0800---- 205--------- 182--------- 170,6
                  0,0810---- 207,5------- 184--------- 172,5
                  0,0820---- 210--------- 186--------- 174,4
                  0,0830---- 212,5------- 188--------- 176,3
                  0,0840---- 215--------- 190--------- 178,1
                  0,0850---- 217,5------- 192--------- 180,0
                  0,0860---- 220--------- 194--------- 181,9
                  0,0870---- 222,5------- 196--------- 183,7
                  0,0880---- 225--------- 198--------- 185,6
                  0,0890---- 227,5------- 200--------- 187,5
                  I have one query. Where did you get the DYNOJET specs, have you tried with your Karizma?

                  Cheers!
                  VJ
                  Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                  The girl said, 'NO!'


                  And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                  THE END

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                  • Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

                    Originally posted by xpranav View Post
                    ... he pointed it out to me that the service center guys usually put oil over the air filter which results in choking .... What do you guys say about it ?? ...
                    Firstly be clear about the type of air filter used on your bike by the manufacturer . There are several types of air filter . Some types used a oiled element and some use dry media . All filters shall clog up and choke the engine's air intake after some time , when it has to be replaced or serviced ( cleaned & re-oiled ) depending upon the type used . Clear guidance shall be found in your bike's owner's manual .

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                    • Re: A practice of draining oil through the Air Filters

                      Hey Guys, my Honda Activa 2010 @16000 KMs is up for changing Air filter
                      Can you guys suggest me to go with stock one or any other
                      and also SparkPlug needs to be change
                      Honda ETERNO 150 (2003-2010) SOLD.
                      Honda ACTIVA (2010-2012) CURRENT.
                      MARUTI SUZUKI ALTO LX (2004-_ _ ).
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                      • Re: Air Filters - Universal Thread

                        At how many kms is the AF to be cleaned periodically and replaced? My ride is approaching 9.5k kms.

                        Cheerz!!
                        The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

                        Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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                        • Re: Air Filters - Universal Thread

                          Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                          At how many kms is the AF to be cleaned periodically and replaced? My ride is approaching 9.5k kms.

                          Cheerz!!
                          What kind of air filter do you have?Both my bikes,rtr and splendor have foam type filters and I clean and them every 1.5 k ..Its better for the ride and if using good quality fuel you need not worry about carburetor cleaning for a long time.
                          "Vibes transmitted from crank shaft to frame, then through the bearings of the head stock and into the stem where it meets the triple clamp and into the clip-ons where it is greeted with great pleasure by my hands"-ratfighter mod rtr

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                          • Re: Air Filters - Universal Thread

                            Originally posted by albyjose View Post
                            What kind of air filter do you have?Both my bikes,rtr and splendor have foam type filters and I clean and them every 1.5 k ..Its better for the ride and if using good quality fuel you need not worry about carburetor cleaning for a long time.
                            My ride is FZ and it says dry element. Nothing mentioned about the AF except dry element.

                            Cheerz!!
                            The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

                            Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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                            • Re: Air Filters - Universal Thread

                              Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                              My ride is FZ and it says dry element. Nothing mentioned about the AF except dry element.

                              Cheerz!!
                              Search in fz ownership thread..I have no experience with any filters other than foam!
                              "Vibes transmitted from crank shaft to frame, then through the bearings of the head stock and into the stem where it meets the triple clamp and into the clip-ons where it is greeted with great pleasure by my hands"-ratfighter mod rtr

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                              • Re: Air Filters - Universal Thread

                                Dry Element means paper type filter element is used in Yamaha FZ
                                there are basically two types of filter element

                                1. Foam type (dipped with oil)-can reuse it by cleaning them(but not effiicent as paper element)
                                2. Paper type (dry)-Can use it upto 10-15K depending upon the manufactureres guide. very efficient.

                                Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                                My ride is FZ and it says dry element. Nothing mentioned about the AF except dry element.

                                Cheerz!!

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