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It's gives a pretty good mileage dude... My friend who bought a twister 3 months ago, is getting 70+. I rode it once for some 5 kms.. And I assure u that, it's the best of all 100-125cc bikes, with respect to the acceleration, smoothness and refinement.. Above all, it's HONDA.. So no need to worry abt the reliability...

Twister is wat I got in my mind, after going through your posts..

Good mileage. But, what about the gear shift?? I've rode several 1down 4 up bikes and I always have a problem putting it in neutral. If I cannot put the gear in neutral, I'll have to either turn off the engine (and start it back soon) or keep the clutch held, wasting fuel and increasing stress. I'm not sure about this buddy.

couldnt complete then

twister offers comfort more than pulsar 135ls

beat it single seat and 135ls has hard seat harder rear seat and back might pain as u travel more due to sporty stance

pulsar 135ls gives more power....4valve and ALMOST equivalent to 150

so u chose more power vs more comfort

btw SZX is another of your options......without disc brakes and digital metre ...but 150cc and comfort combined i think as they say.....

1down
3up
can be a pain if its a issue then dont go but people say u can get used to it i got used to it little in test drives only

10-20 atleast

If saving $$ is on top of your mind and an easy commuter there is no better stuff than a Honda Twister. Agree it costs little more upfront but you will get terrific milage and believe me the bike is pure fun to ride which no other bike in this segment offers. In mad mad city traffic when you will even hate the idea of taking your bike out, probably this is the only bike which will keep your urge for motorcycling.

Of course you have likes of Bajaj DTS 100 & 150 CC, TVS Jive which will also meet your requirement but minus the "thrill" factor. Also you will find that the Honda quallity is far superior than out Indian counterparts and Bajaj & TVS are still playing the 'catch up' game with the Jap counterparts in terms of build quality and reliability. So you buy peace of mind with the winged logo and believe me every penny you put after Twister is worth it.

Another viable alternative I can see is the Yamaha SZ. With the triple tuning fork logo you are again assured of the qualility and reliability. But then you need to keep in mind that this is a 150 CC hence can never match up with the efficiancy of a 110 CC. Though it offers additional performance you need to ask yourself if you need it at all. Also you need to wait for about two months for a disc brake option.

Weigh your options do test ride both and choose. There are other options in 125 CCs as well but discussing too many options will only confuse you.

Are you trying to say that CB Twister is more fun than Discover 150?? i'll certainly agree on mileage part in comparision, but missing thrill factor should be vice versa, when you are comparing it with a 150cc!! be it Disco 150 or SZ-150.

Discover 100 should be the choice.. if you are looking for mileage. It's selling like hot cakes these days..

You are the same height as me , and I weight in at 65kgs .
If there is a yamaha showroom nearby , test ride the crux . It is correct height ( for 5'6" ) and very light , great torque , nearly no maintenance , 60kmpl mileage , can take a side box , primary kick ( starts in any gear with clutch depressed ) , lowest cost 100cc commuter , rides at 25kmpl in 4th when needed and no vibrations , lowest cost parts , least plastics , fast pickup ,easily maintains 50-70 kmph - maxes out at 95 , great 130mm brakes on both wheels ( even if drums ) , simple naked looks , good lights , smoooth shifts ( 1up 3down ) , straight firm seats and perfect straight back riding position , highly reliable and sturdy , firm adjustable shocks . Total effect is a great traffic crawler that breaks free cleanly at opportunity . Almost all other bikes looks sportier & sexier than crux , but then you can't see your bike when you are driving it , that too in heavy traffic . As you are concerned about gears-shift , I have seen on almost all other bikes the gear shift lever is not "centered" to the center left-foot rest and not in correct position / height , result is that I have to shift my left foot from the rest to the shifter and back for gear changes . On both my crux and rx135 my foot rests on the shift lever all-the-time and and i can change gears with just a mild flick of toes/heels . Simple things like these adds up to better bike for me much more than stickering jobs . I also own a brand new splendor+ and an older more loved yamaha rx-135 4-speed . This is from my personal experience .

As you have driven both Yamaha Crux and Splendor+, please share your positive as well as negative thoughts about both the motorcycle. Which is better in both of them for driving comfort and economy in repair and driving?

I have owned Crux for 10 yrs straight... I have to agree with him. Arguably the fastest 100CC around with lot's of torque considering it's just a 100CC bike. Mileage will never be below 60 that's for sure.

Sorry bro for the late reply , it's durga-puja in kolkata , buying gifts and visiting friends and relatives .

Splendor+ looks nicer and has more resale value better fit and finish which is obvious when you look at both bikes and the fact that it costs about 5k-6k higher than yamaha crux , onroad here .
It also has narrower contoured hence uncomfy for long rides seats , plus wifey says crux's pillion seat was way better to ride , can't argue that .

Crux's suspension is stiffer than the plush splendor+ ride . But that same stiffness lets it take corners and fast slanting overtakes with great confidence .

I wan't to make everyone aware of one little but important misinformation on HH website , Hero Honda - Splendor Plus ... the brake size is mentioned as 130mm for both wheels , whereas actually Splendor+ plus has a 130mm front & 110mm rear brake . The actual dimensions are clearly mentioned in their "owner's manual" too . The crux has 130mm brakes on both wheels like rx100 & rx135 , and results in nice progressive positive braking ! the splendor rear brake on my bike atleast is about useless and mushy , front is ok . What's the idea with a smaller rear brake and the wrong information on a company website ??!! Deliberate lie ?

Engine on the crux is very torquey and has fast pickup , doesn't complain about proper gears like the splendor , simply it feels huge pulling power .. dunno how to explain it .. for any 107cc 4stroke . It is
also amazingly reliable incessant rains or broken roads , no matter . It needs to warm-up for a min every morning , routine . The primary kick system is very nice for a non electric-start bike in city lights . Crux has primary , splendor doesn't . The splendor engine is 97cc ,smooooooth and easy-going but feeble pulling power ,and it WILL knock if you dont put in proper , and I mean proper gear ... so I have to change gear twice to go over a speedbreaker (bumper) even , saving grace being the gear shifts are almost like click-stop switch .. softly click-click , done ! crux is also lighter , and has muchh better headlamp .Mileage .. about the same . For scooting around town , i will take crux over splendor or even anything else .

My splendor+ is 3-4 months only .. so i don't know it's parts and repairs costs .. but I believe yamaha parts are cheaper and just as good quality . Moreover my yamaha dealers ( Leader's kolkata ) had inhouse yamaha-maintained ( I saw japanese guys in whiteshirts inspecting it regularly , dunno wht they were saying , good or bad ) workshop . They were very attentive to customer and very good at their job , atleast on my simple bike . Free service for two years meant FREE service for two years , total 8 services .

On the contrary , when I went in for first free service of the splendor+ ( amit motorcycles kolkata ), they sent me to a far-from-me workshop , where there was a huge Q , and they were turning away late comers , unless they would agree to next day return .. which I did . When my bike was returned next day , afternoon I was amazed to find it unwashed and unpolished , both jobs being mentioned "mandatory" on my first-service slip given by HH . This was not just for my lowly splendor but also a new Karizma , that owner was shouting , I was just sad , and left quietly . They said their water supply was "disrupted" . and I could come anyday later again to get my bike washed by them for free . hmmmm , how did they even "service" my never washed dirty cruddy bike .. i dunno .Charged 175 Rs for oil change and lubed my chain with "spent-engine-oil" and I had just bought a 500ml bottle of HP EP90 gear oil just the day before because HH specifies that in the user-manual . They also oiled my air-filter with some thin-oil which collected to the bottom of the foam later , then next weekend I cleaned it and oiled it myself again with that EP90 gear-oil properly .The free-service for HH splendor is for 365 days only given on my service booklet in such a way ( kms/365days ,whichever is earlier trick ) that i can take 3-4 only . One more thing that really un-nerved me is that their service-stations ( stands ?) were marked on top with signboards saying "Free Service" and "Paid service" respectively !! I am NOT showing up for second free service there for sure .

On the plus side my splendor+ has given me NO trouble till now , returns 60kmpl and is smooth and comfy for my home to office and back daily trips at 10-50 kmph ( crowded city kolkata ), easy to oil and maintain myself , easy to ride and park in the crowded office parking and looks nice , which are the things I got it for .... so I am pleased with it . It's engine and cycle parts are of excellent quality .. something I noticed while washing/polishing it once .

forgive my rambling .
Pinaki .

Thanks for the useful info about Yamaha Crux. My father is considering to buy a bike to be used in village area, rough roads.

Hey Pinaki,

I missed this post of yours. Such detailed. Thanks for the tip on the Crux. It looks like a solid bike. However, my Victor is a similarly powered bike with great torque on the low end, and looks much better than the more orthodox looking Crux.

My Victor had an issue with the CDI and replaced it. Works alright as of now, but it keeps throwing issues at me and I'm getting irritated. The engine, however, is terrific and I may not replace this bike anytime soon.

@hellmet
Yes , victor/star-city/sport I considered while buying , but TVS has NO dealership or showroom in Kolkata AT ALL , let alone a service-workshop . ...nothing ! would you believe it ?!
I think your bike is just in need of an full overhaul at TVS workshop with all original parts .. normal for 6yrs old 4s bike . Don't go for bits & pieces of local mechanics jugaad ... do the full company overhaul ,because , I think u still love your bike .

Oh Yes I do still love it. Yeah, I guess after 6 years, every bike reaches its end-of-support cycle for several parts, except the engine. There have been several misc components like horn, fork seals, side-cover locks, etc, and a expensive CDI unit going ka-put. However, engine components like clutch, control cables, carb, and the engine itself have been going strong (or so I hope). The day I see engine components dying will be the day I say good bye to the bike. My bike has done 47200KM.

It is really strange to see TVS not have a network in Kolkatta. I guess it is more of a south Indian brand, then. My whole family is on TVS, Ind Suzuki, Scooty and Victor and believe TVS is essentially great build quality.

Re: 40+KM per day. Need to save $$

Hi guys, a few years ago I was looking for a bike and you had responded to this thread with some great recommendations. However, I didn't go ahead with the purchase then as I preferred to pay down debt so I repaired my bike and continued.

Now, I'm at the stage where my Victor is falling apart and needs urgent replacement. I'm currently looking to buy a high-efficiency bike and was looking at some of the low cost bikes such as the Yamaha Crux / YBR110, Hero Deluxe/Splendor and Dream Yuga. I really want to go for some of the better capacity bikes like the Hunk or the Unicorn but at a budget of 50K they're almost 30K more expensive on road in Hyderabad and I've been unable to find decent used bikes on classifieds, yet. Also the Hunk gets poor fuel efficiency even compared to the Unicorn (same engine).

I'm currently favoring the YBR110 due to the sheer number of features on paper as compare to the other contenders (electric start/engine kill switch/pass-light switch/ 3.00X18 rear tire/130mm brakes front and rear, among others). Pinaki's recommendation of the Crux encourages me to give Yamaha a try this time (amigo, your PM box is full) . I just want to confirm with you guys if you would recommend the Crux engine (and on the YBR110) - what you think of the torque the engine provides in the city at low <5kmph speeds, and if the gears are all down (aka all-front) ? The problem is that the YBR110 (123KG) is 10KG heavier than the Crux so that could be a slight dampener on overall power and fuel efficiency. Even the Crux is slightly heavier than comparable 110CC bikes at 113KG. Planning to give this bike a test ride if I get a go from you people here.

Let me know what you think. I wouldn't prefer Honda due to their snobbiness, high prices, and lack of features, but people perceive bikes with the Honda stickering as highly reliable and fetch you great resale. Not sure of current gen TVS, plus their designs are boring (except for Apache). If I go for a Splendor it'd be for high reliability and resale. IT jobs are never predictable which is why I don't want to spend a bomb on a bike now only to move to another state to have to buy another vehicle there.

My goal is to get myself a reliable, comfortable and highly fuel efficient bike in that exact order of preference. If it comes with 4 gears I'd like them all in one direction : all-up or all-down. The Twister's 1d3up is not my cup of tea. I'd also want a toe-heel shifter because unlike teenagers I have an office to go to and need my shoes clean.

Your recommendations and comments are highly appreciated.