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    Hello all! Yes, this is another Help me choose a bike thread!

    Having owned a P150 UG1 for 6 years, its time I upgraded .

    I have only 2 bikes in mind - ZMR & P220F. (I am considering an R15 too but given that I am 6` and 100 kgs, its pretty much out of the equation)

    I am a lot into highway riding & touring. One of the reasons for the upgrade is that my 150 feels underpowered now.

    My requirements: lower cost of ownership in the long run (bajaj has spoiled me!), better mileage, good cruising speed (+100), lower vibs, lower or nil fatigue (especially on tours), easy to take on the hills (With pillion & luggage)...hmm that is all I could think of!

    I intend to keep the bike for at least the next 4-5 years.

    Also, wondering, if the Hero Honda split will have an impact on the ZMR bike/parts in the future?

    Planning to book during Diwali so if a new variation comes out, will prolly pick that up (if its good!).

  • #2
    Query approved.
    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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    • #3
      Originally posted by chicmagnet View Post
      Hello all! Yes, this is another Help me choose a bike thread!

      Having owned a P150 UG1 for 6 years, its time I upgraded .

      I have only 2 bikes in mind - ZMR & P220F. (I am considering an R15 too but given that I am 6` and 100 kgs, its pretty much out of the equation)

      I am a lot into highway riding & touring. One of the reasons for the upgrade is that my 150 feels underpowered now.

      My requirements: lower cost of ownership in the long run (bajaj has spoiled me!), better mileage, good cruising speed (+100), lower vibs, lower or nil fatigue (especially on tours), easy to take on the hills (With pillion & luggage)...hmm that is all I could think of!

      I intend to keep the bike for at least the next 4-5 years.

      Also, wondering, if the Hero Honda split will have an impact on the ZMR bike/parts in the future?

      Planning to book during Diwali so if a new variation comes out, will prolly pick that up (if its good!).
      even i am confused as per your requirements
      ZMR is not a bad choice at all, but i personally feel that the bike is not a hit at all
      P220 is heavy on pockets to maintain

      suzuki gs150r would be a good choice
      it has a six speed transmission for relaxed crusing.

      i would not suggest you zmr or the p220
      r15 is a smart choice, though
      a friend of mine is facing troubles finding the spares for his zmr
      it seems like even the dealers are not interested to sell this bike


      i suggest you
      r15, yamaha SZ, fz16, gs150r
      yEs yAmAhA!
      YZF R15, my love


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      • #4
        Originally posted by chicmagnet View Post
        Hello all! Yes, this is another Help me choose a bike thread!

        Having owned a P150 UG1 for 6 years, its time I upgraded .

        I have only 2 bikes in mind - ZMR & P220F. (I am considering an R15 too but given that I am 6` and 100 kgs, its pretty much out of the equation)

        I am a lot into highway riding & touring. One of the reasons for the upgrade is that my 150 feels underpowered now.

        My requirements: lower cost of ownership in the long run (bajaj has spoiled me!), better mileage, good cruising speed (+100), lower vibs, lower or nil fatigue (especially on tours), easy to take on the hills (With pillion & luggage)...hmm that is all I could think of!

        I intend to keep the bike for at least the next 4-5 years.

        Also, wondering, if the Hero Honda split will have an impact on the ZMR bike/parts in the future?

        Planning to book during Diwali so if a new variation comes out, will prolly pick that up (if its good!).
        Except the mileage thing the ZMA fulfills all you requirements. The parts issue in ZMA/ZMR is still not solved & their parts are not easily available. So when the company is running at its full glory then this is the condition. Then you can imagine the parts availability when it would be split.

        Given that you weight & height the R15 can be a problem to you. Why dont you try out a mahindra mojo or an RE?? They would be just perfect for all your needs.
        NOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THAT

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        • #5
          before going for a bike ...you need go to nearby Gym regularly....
          by the way i recommend you to go for a Enfield product...Those bikes will suit you more then ZMR and 220
          Don't Honk Unnecessarily

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          • #6
            in Delhi, ZMR's spares are easily available, they changed fairing of my bike with in a week (around in 5 days)..

            @TC
            as suggested by other members RE will suit you but if you don't wanna buy an RE then you must go with ZMR, as per my opinion you won't feel comfortable on an R15 at all & P220, even considering better then its other siblings, still isn't that reliable & refined in comparison with ZMR or R15 for a long term use..on highways both ZMR & P220 will perform great, only thing going against pulsar is maintenance..
            Suzuki Gixxer - Current
            Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
            Apache RTR160 - Sold
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            • #7
              I do not want an RE. Not looking for one for now (maybe after this bike I will go for one but not anytime soon!).


              @Madhav: Mahindra Mojo is expensive so didn't consider even though it might just be what I want but just not affordable! Besides, its cost of ownership might be sky high for all u know!

              @SatyamZMA: I have reduced actually :P which is why I considered the R15 too LOL :P
              @Pranjal - don't think i would want another 150cc bike hence not looking at the 150cc lot.

              The reason I am confused is whether the P220F can holds it own against the ZMR in terms of cost of ownership & is it less stressful on the body too?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by chicmagnet View Post
                The reason I am confused is whether the P220F can holds it own against the ZMR in terms of cost of ownership & is it less stressful on the body too?
                The ZMR & p220 have almost equal comfort levels. Although the seating position & comfort of p220 is better than ZMR. But still the ZMR/R15 maintenance can be a costly affair due to the highly technical things involved & moreover they are full faired which means if even you fall from them accidentally or even they fall on their own the repair costs will be more than Rs.1000. So think twice before you take them. But their engine life is much longer than that of p220. The maintenance of p220 is on the higher side. Although its spares are dead cheap & its initial investment is low.

                When you compare ZMA, ZMR, p220 & R15 then you will find that the overall best bike is ZMA. Its comfort level is much higher than ZMR & others. Moreover its a proven tourer. It can easily hold on to 100+ speeds. Its initial investment is also low & it's a highly reliable & relatively a maintenance free bike. Moreover its more stable & easy to handle bike than ZMR (p220 & R15 excluded). Since it has got a half fairing its more stable to cross winds than the R15 & ZMR.

                So go for ZMA. You will never regret your decision.

                If you are riding in cities then why dont you choose the fz?? Its pulling power is suuuppppeerrb & can easily pull your weight without any complaints even in lower rpms. Moreover you will save a lot of moolah on it.

                EDIT:- The ZMR & R15 cannot be serviced easily by a roadside mechanic while the p220/ZMA can easily be serviced by any roadside mechanic.
                Last edited by madhav krishna; 10-16-2010, 02:07 PM.
                NOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THAT

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by madhav krishna View Post
                  Its comfort level is much higher than ZMR & others.
                  disagreed with it, ZMR & ZMA both are equally comfortable..i don't think HH has played with karizma's USP i.e comfort while making ZMR..on contrary because of suspensions(both front & rear) in ZMR it makes it even more comfortable on bad roads..
                  Suzuki Gixxer - Current
                  Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
                  Apache RTR160 - Sold
                  Honda Stunner - Sold
                  LML Energy - Sold

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
                    disagreed with it, ZMR & ZMA both are equally comfortable..i don't think HH has played with karizma's USP i.e comfort while making ZMR..on contrary because of suspensions(both front & rear) in ZMR it makes it even more comfortable on bad roads..
                    i guess you mean becuse of gas suspensions at rear zmr is more comfortable
                    M3:15

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
                      disagreed with it, ZMR & ZMA both are equally comfortable..i don't think HH has played with karizma's USP i.e comfort while making ZMR..on contrary because of suspensions(both front & rear) in ZMR it makes it even more comfortable on bad roads..
                      i expected your reply. First of all stop your ZMR fanboism. All your posts say-"ZMR ki jai". Even the XCD-135 dts-si had gas charged suspension. But that didnt made it any better in absorbing poth holes when compared to gladiator or stunner which had conventional spring type suspension. Just the suspension does not increase any comfort. Its the weight distribution & rider position which makes any bike comfortable. Even the R15 has the best suspension in india but does that make it any much more comfortable than the ZMA??

                      The ZMR has got a clip on handlebars in order to give it a much more sporty look & hence bit uncomfortable(not as much as R15). The HH has created two new divisions. The ZMR for a bit more sporty ride & the Zma for a comfortable touring.
                      NOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THAT

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by madhav krishna View Post
                        i expected your reply. First of all stop your ZMR fanboism. All your posts say-"ZMR ki jai". Even the XCD-135 dts-si had gas charged suspension. But that didnt made it any better in absorbing poth holes when compared to gladiator or stunner which had conventional spring type suspension. Just the suspension does not increase any comfort. Its the weight distribution & rider position which makes any bike comfortable. Even the R15 has the best suspension in india but does that make it any much more comfortable than the ZMA??

                        The ZMR has got a clip on handlebars in order to give it a much more sporty look & hence bit uncomfortable(not as much as R15). The HH has created two new divisions. The ZMR for a bit more sporty ride & the Zma for a comfortable touring.
                        its not about supporting any particular bike, i love ZMA as much as i love ZMR i only talked about its suspension which is better hence it improves comfort, though it isn't only factor for a comfortable ride but if other aspects are same then yeah its an important thing to look for, R15's sitting position is totally different from these two bikes so i didn't compare its suspensions cuz it doesn't make sense to just compare suspensions for comfort level, but in case of zma n zmr, its a different thing..

                        & talking about plus point of any bike doesn't mean that i'm deprecating any other bike..all these bikes have some plus points & i just mentioned one among it..
                        Suzuki Gixxer - Current
                        Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
                        Apache RTR160 - Sold
                        Honda Stunner - Sold
                        LML Energy - Sold

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                        • #13
                          well thread starter if you don't want to go for enfield... then i recommend you go for ZMR...it's a overall good package with nice performance and comfort levels...you had alread ridden P150 for a long time now try the HH ZMR...

                          and try to avoid eating too much of cakes & pizzas
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
                            its not about supporting any particular bike, i love ZMA as much as i love ZMR i only talked about its suspension which is better hence it improves comfort, though it isn't only factor for a comfortable ride but if other aspects are same then yeah its an important thing to look for, R15's sitting position is totally different from these two bikes so i didn't compare its suspensions cuz it doesn't make sense to just compare suspensions for comfort level, but in case of zma n zmr, its a different thing..

                            & talking about plus point of any bike doesn't mean that i'm deprecating any other bike..all these bikes have some plus points & i just mentioned one among it..
                            The gas charge suspension comforts are offset by the clip ons & sporty riding position. I had dragged in the suspensions of R15 in order to explain you that better suspension doesnt mean any increase in comfort.

                            Well i didnt meant to hurt you or something but i found that most of your posts (in other threads also) reflect fanboism. I have found that where ever possible you drag in the ZMR & try to prove it better (no offense meant). Anyways i dont want to continue any such useless discussion. So peace
                            NOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THAT

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by madhav krishna View Post
                              The gas charge suspension comforts are offset by the clip ons & sporty riding position. I had dragged in the suspensions of R15 in order to explain you that better suspension doesnt mean any increase in comfort.

                              Well i didnt meant to hurt you or something but i found that most of your posts (in other threads also) reflect fanboism. I have found that where ever possible you drag in the ZMR & try to prove it better (no offense meant). Anyways i dont want to continue any such useless discussion. So peace
                              bro i only talk about any point related to zmr when topic starter mention about it..otherwise you can check other threads where topic starter didn't mention zmr then me too didn't drag zmr to compare it with R15 or other bikes n recommended best bike according to me among them..
                              Suzuki Gixxer - Current
                              Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
                              Apache RTR160 - Sold
                              Honda Stunner - Sold
                              LML Energy - Sold

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