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  • #16
    wish they launch the CBR 150 R along with the bigger sibling....if its in the price range of R15 it might be a good alternative with more power and of course phatter rear tyres....but i think im asking for too much...first let them bring the 250..

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ken cool View Post
      Really!!!



      That used to be MY line!
      Oopsie! When??..
      Please don't sue me for that..

      I guess I've joined the community very late..So didn't know that?
      If you ride like there's no tomorrow...worry not there won't be!

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      • #18
        Keep the P200 for now..
        The CBR's not gonna be here for at least 6 months right? Let it come down and let's hear the initial reviews first. Only then we can tell whether a bike is worth the money or not.

        R15 has been here for 2-3 years now and everybody knows everything about that bike. So as of now, R15's the safer bet.

        Anyways, better to stick with the P200 till you buy another bike..don't sell it to buy another one..
        Lonely Rider~
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        • #19
          Im in a similar situation.. I have the FZ (1 n half years old).

          I want to sell it and buy the R15 as Im truly biased to buy it. However, im still thinking whether getting the R15 mainly for city riding will actually be upgrading or downgrading from FZ??

          And the news of 250R coming has confused me even more.

          Thread subscribed!! Will keep checking for expert opinions.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by tusilal View Post
            However, im still thinking whether getting the R15 mainly for city riding will actually be upgrading or downgrading from FZ??
            If talking within the city, FZ would be better for the lower/mid range. Moreover the maintenance,am sure is less than the R15. You should wait for the CBR.

            @Nikhil bhai(TheadStarter): You would do good to wait for another 5 months or so. Rest we have discussed over gtalk. My take still's the same unless the CBR turns out to be a surprise package. Wait till April,11'
            Last edited by happybiking; 11-06-2010, 08:33 AM.
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            • #21
              i doubt that CBR250 will be in range of 1.5lacs i think it will be above 2lacs [just my opinion considering current scenario of pricing]. buying R15 and CBR250 will be whole different thing because price difference is HUGE...for me atleast
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              • #22
                Well, waiting for a bike is good if the wait is for a few weeks, but 5-6 months? That too when nobody is sure about the price? I don't know. From my experience, some of my friends are in an endless wait for ''the better bike around the corner''... they've been waiting for a few months now and are gonna wait for a few more months too. I made my decision and bought the R15 five months ago and am loving it, happily riding

                But, if you are a person who will regret his decision later, then I suggest you wait. After all, we don't buy bikes everyday. Its an investment and waiting a little longer to make the right choice ain't that bad after all. Its your choice, at the end of the day. Its how YOU will feel when you own the bike.

                I'd recommend you make it known to the people providing you with the money (parents, banks etc ) that you intend to wait for the new bike and it *might* cost a little/lot more That way, you wouldn't have price issues later on.

                Its pointless comparing the two bikes right now, since, as already pointed out by other members, one bike doesn't exist
                D'oh!

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                • #23
                  According to me,selling out P200 for R15 doesnt worth it at all,until,the P200 is ruined completely.....
                  If you can live with it for some more months,then better wait for the 250.
                  HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BlueBlitz View Post
                    Hi guys,

                    I own one oulsar 200 as of now. i am riding it since last 3 years. I want to change my bike and I am looking for a sports bike...

                    I wantyed to go for R15 but just now heard of CBR250R coming, i have gone through the specs an I do like the bike, but my budget and the lack of sporty posture has made me think again.

                    Right now i am confused in these two options.. should i wait till next year or go for R15 now..

                    pros for r15 i have
                    -1 advance tech
                    -yamaha tech
                    -sports riding posture

                    cons
                    - small feel
                    - bit overpriced in the lights of CBR250R
                    - less power


                    Pros for honda:
                    -honda engine smoothness
                    -big look feel
                    -more power
                    -compititive pricing ( assuming 1.6 on road)

                    Cons
                    - Detuned engine
                    - weight on bt higher side , so effective power to weight ration remains low. ( speculation on power 26hp)


                    Which of them will be a wise opition..
                    instead of relying on other's opinions If possible take your friend's R15 and ride it for a day or two. If you still think its good for you , grab it.

                    R15 is great bike but it is best suited for track riding and riding at higher revs, high speed. Unless you are on track or ride over 100, R15 is not good bike IMO as it lacks low end torque for city riding, sporty riding position is not best suited for city riding. Your P200 might have less "advanced tech" than yammi but it will beat R15 in normal India Conditions ( honestly how many times you will ride over 90 where the power band of R15 starts )
                    Does "advanced tech" of yammi make considerable difference in real life riding condition over Pulsar 200 ? Morever R15 is downgrade from P200 in few aspects.

                    CBR250R seems like made for India, just see its relaxed tourer riding position. Besides it has much more torque, looks bigger. CC'c dont count in my view, it looks good on paper but it is power and torque what matters most and CBR 250 has plenty of it. So keep your Pulsar for time being, and wait for CBR250

                    At one point of time, I was also lured towards R15 - its R1 DNA and tech , I took my friends R15 , rode for a day in all conditions and decided to keep my ZMA .I was waiting for something good - CBR seems to be that bike !!
                    Last edited by 1235sam; 11-06-2010, 04:17 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 1235sam View Post
                      instead of relying on other's opinions If possible take your friend's R15 and ride it for a day or two. If you still think its good for you , grab it.

                      R15 is great bike but it is best suited for track riding and riding at higher revs, high speed. Unless you are on track or ride over 100, R15 is not good bike IMO as it lacks low end torque for city riding, sporty riding position is not best suited for city riding. Your P200 might have less "advanced tech" than yammi but it will beat R15 in normal India Conditions ( honestly how many times you will ride over 90 where the power band of R15 starts )
                      Does "advanced tech" of yammi make considerable difference in real life riding condition over Pulsar 200 ? Morever R15 is downgrade from P200 in few aspects.

                      CBR250R seems like made for India, just see its relaxed tourer riding position. Besides it has much more torque, looks bigger. CC'c dont count in my view, it looks good on paper but it is power and torque what matters most and CBR 250 has plenty of it. So keep your Pulsar for time being, and wait for CBR250

                      At one point of time, I was also lured towards R15 - its R1 DNA and tech , I took my friends R15 , rode for a day in all conditions and decided to keep my ZMA .I was waiting for something good - CBR seems to be that bike !!


                      sorry to say friend but i don't agree with your statement. me too had karizma R [yellow] for three years and it was awesome. BUT i traded my karizma for R15 three months back and i must say R15 is whole different thing reliability, comfort,power,Looks everything is way better than p200. and i must correct you
                      R15's power band doesn't start after 90km/hr though it starts after 5-6K RPM and its a rev. loving bike so its not a problem to get RPM the only problem is that little bit of gear shifting. and i must tell u its little not like you will get irritated with it or something like that. and about its seating position you will get used to it within a week and if seated properly no back pain nothing happens i have done 200 kms in a day with not much rest and no back pains. so its not a Downgrade.

                      Rest within your choice i already said if you can spend nearly 2lacs.[acc. to me] almost double to that of R15. then you should wait for CBR 250 its again from big reputed HONDA and will obviously better than R15.

                      HappY hunting
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RhythmRana99 View Post
                        sorry to say friend but i don't agree with your statement. me too had karizma R [yellow] for three years and it was awesome. BUT i traded my karizma for R15 three months back and i must say R15 is whole different thing reliability, comfort,power,Looks everything is way better than p200. and i must correct you
                        R15's power band doesn't start after 90km/hr though it starts after 5-6K RPM and its a rev. loving bike so its not a problem to get RPM the only problem is that little bit of gear shifting. and i must tell u its little not like you will get irritated with it or something like that. and about its seating position you will get used to it within a week and if seated properly no back pain nothing happens i have done 200 kms in a day with not much rest and no back pains. so its not a Downgrade.

                        Rest within your choice i already said if you can spend nearly 2lacs.[acc. to me] almost double to that of R15. then you should wait for CBR 250 its again from big reputed HONDA and will obviously better than R15.

                        HappY hunting
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                        I don't wan to start war here , after all this thread is meant to help OP ! just had some doubts
                        you said reliability, comfort,power,Looks everything is way better than p200 . First of all power is almost same just compare the specs , looks are subjective IMO , I agree that Yamaha is more Reliable than Bajaj ( who isn't ) , comfort is again subjective but most people agree that R15 feels comfortable around track but on Indian roads it is less comfortable than other bikes including P200.Thats why I said downgrade in few aspects ,for city riding - P200 will be more comfy due to its riding position and mid end torque - it will able to pull easily than R15.
                        I think CBR will be substantial upgrade over P200

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by 1235sam View Post
                          I don't wan to start war here , after all this thread is meant to help OP ! just had some doubts
                          you said reliability, comfort,power,Looks everything is way better than p200 . First of all power is almost same just compare the specs , looks are subjective IMO , I agree that Yamaha is more Reliable than Bajaj ( who isn't ) , comfort is again subjective but most people agree that R15 feels comfortable around track but on Indian roads it is less comfortable than other bikes including P200.Thats why I said downgrade in few aspects ,for city riding - P200 will be more comfy due to its riding position and mid end torque - it will able to pull easily than R15.
                          I think CBR will be substantial upgrade over P200
                          i am also not starting war my friend just clearing doubts and if specs are same consider weight also power to weight ratio is also a thing to consider. and about seating problem no owner of R15 has problem in posture because they have developed the habit and common man its mini sports bike. the sporty posture is nothing compared to R1,Busa,ninja etc but we all love them . i agree with you CBR250 will obviously a substantial upgrade but again it does not exist yet. no official specs announced no official price announced. and a 250cc HONDA will cost just 1.5 lacs..i don't think so...but i wish it will...
                          No offences
                          Last edited by RhythmRana99; 11-08-2010, 12:54 AM.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by sheelpriye
                            I don't know and understand why most point out that R15 isn't suited to in-city commutes.

                            How do (who ever thinks so) guys commute with their R15 everyday?

                            There was a column by Shumi Marmar from OD about the commuting difference between R15 and Dazzler, loved reading it.

                            If any of you got it, could you please paste it here.
                            ^^
                            +1000
                            i was just about to make that point!
                            unless you weigh 500kgs or are thinking of pulling a car along with you in the city, i don't think the R15 will disappoint you..
                            low-low end torque doesn't mean you'll have to push with you legs to get it started or something..its just that the true "surge" comes after 5k range, which in fact is a positive aspect, atleast i believe so..
                            during city rides, much power is not needed..unless again you intend to do what i mentioned before..
                            but then, when you see an empty road, need that adrenaline rush, gear-down twist the throttle, the road may end, but the surge won't stop till the redline!
                            actually the only -'ve aspect of having the so called "low-end torque" is that you'd have to shift gears more often and won't be able to pull from 20kmph in 4th gear (unlike apache,etc) without stressing the engine..
                            the engine is a free-revving one and hence rev happy..
                            if you don't mind changing gears then good for you!
                            now, why i feel that the low end torque is a +'ve point is because,
                            low output=low input
                            so, it consumes lesser fuel to the km than all the bikes it compares to..
                            and forget about all these aspects in the 250...
                            also, the maintenance cost of the R15 would surely be lower than the 250..
                            and plus R15 has also proved itself to be a good tourer, having done leh, etc.

                            the R15 has redefined refinement!
                            out of station? start it after 20 days and it would react as if you had never gone, starts in on crank -flat!and not just that..
                            i don't mean that the 250 would be worse but then you will have to wait, spend .5lakh more(at the least) and then spend more each day as the operation cost would be higher..

                            basically i suggest you go in for the R15 and it won't let you down..
                            don't go after people not owning the bike and saying stuff like low end torque and puny engine and stuff....
                            visit the R15 ownership thread, if you find one unsatisfied owner, go in for the 250 blindly..
                            phew! long post!
                            after monday and tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!!

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                            • #29
                              Did everyone forget launch of Ninja? It was supposed to be anywhere from 1.6-2.2 on most forums and not to mention the launch date kept getting postponed. Honda CBR 250 will probably be an amazing bike but its a sports tourer and R15 is a race bike. Plus R15 also has a strong reputation for its qualities. If you're in a hurry just get the R15 or else you can always wait to make a proper choice.

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                              • #30
                                In my opinion the R15 grows on you. I took it without even a test drive because I wanted a no nonsense sports bike. I booked the ninja and finally had to let it go cuz I didnt have enough cash. So without thinking twice I took R15 an I love it. Riding posture is great though takes a while but not like a year or somethin jes a week maybe

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