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  • #16
    Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
    Atul

    Same case with me abt age and being married. Office to home one way is 33KMs across the City with all sorts of road conditions. Work in Shifts. At least one way ride is in complete dark. Well, why I say this??? it is to say that I understand exactly what your requirement is.

    Now, that doesn't mean that there's an exact answer from me for your requirement Here's my take:

    >> Pillion comfort, let only the missus decide it.
    >> Leave aside the RTR & P180. Don't even think of the Avenger. Missus will sure scold you regularly otherwise. Unless it is just under 5 KM trips to the market or shopping that she'd be pllion, I would not prefer them.
    >> The Pulsar 150 is good in comfort and ticks most boxes right as a good all rounder.
    >> The Unicorn and Dazzler are amazingly confortable for rider and Pillion. Their headlight too is very good - betters most in this list. Handling - superb. Realibiity - Amazing. Pillion ride on rough patches is not as smooth as on P150, GS150R or Hunk.
    >> The GS150R should be the choice for you here as it counts high in most terms mentioned here. Just change the head light bulb to the one from Hnda spares. The stock bulb is bakwaas. Only reason I am thinking is because you felt the U Turn with P180 wasn't very comfy. This bike too is tall (I don't buy the heavy argument like some people put it as it is only 2-3 kg's heavier than most others, you are tall enough) so you should try it out. Counts on comfort, rideability, reliability & handling.
    >> Hunk is another good machine for you. Ticks all the right boxes (except for the name!)
    >> A surprising new entry here is the Yamaha SZ 150. Good stuff. Should try this out. Reliable, smooth, good handler, light on pocket, and yes people are telling that mileage is good unlike its sibling - FZ. Little lower on peak power but torque is good and is pulling well from low end in city with two on board.

    What ever you choose, we expect you to tell us the reasons for your choice (so we know what ticked for you) and an ownership report once you own All the best.
    Thanks for all the great suggestions. I will try out Dazzler also and will update you guys. Thanks again.

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    • #17
      Regarding Vibes issue in Apache

      Hi Guys,

      I did a test drive of RTR with pillion, the bike looks comfortable.
      I am planning to go ahead with this. One last thing I am concerned about it is -1. vibes issue that people mentioned about RTR
      2. Skidding issue with its tvs tyres.

      People even mentioned that vibes become so high at speends above 65 that it becomes difficult for pillion to rest his/her feet on foot pegs.
      Is it really true? please throw some light on this.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by sirf_atul View Post
        Hi Guys,

        I did a test drive of RTR with pillion, the bike looks comfortable.
        I am planning to go ahead with this. One last thing I am concerned about it is -1. vibes issue that people mentioned about RTR
        2. Skidding issue with its tvs tyres.

        People even mentioned that vibes become so high at speends above 65 that it becomes difficult for pillion to rest his/her feet on foot pegs.
        Is it really true? please throw some light on this.
        this is about 2 years ago and i'm not against it or some thing,but this is wat has happened...

        rtr-160 - first 2months - massive vibes after 7k rpm.. dual stage disk stopping....
        after 2 months vibes in the handles and seat @ 5k rpm (60~70 kmph) and no vibes after that till 8k rpm,then hell.... went to various tvs service centers,no use... sold the bike and got a hunk.Hunk got gear box issues after 8 months of use,sold that too... got a unicorn after that,no issues....
        this was with my frnd and he does not go fast,race boyond 7k rpm,cleans and maintails them very well,regular servicing done.....

        so, i would suggest go for a dazzler for a no nonsense all rounder performer.. i myself used a unicorn for 5 years and trashed/crashed it like hell and was sooo bullet proof that even after 6o k kms on the odo,did not have to change the clutch plates.... and dazzler gives u all that u ever want in a unicorn(the dazzlers features were all i ever wanted in the uni and sold it off because it did not have them)...
        RED BULL did'nt give me WINGS, my BIKE did !!

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        • #19
          IMO, the Dazzler and the GS150R are the best 150cc bikes available in India today. Go with either one depending on your likes or dislikes...

          You won't regret your decision.

          Good luck!
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          • #20
            Thanks for your suggestions

            Thank you guys. I will test drive dazzler and GS150 R tomorrow and will post my experiences.
            Another bike that I like is - P180, just because of it's sheer power.
            Are pulsar bikes so unfavorable?
            Heard a lot about quality issues of pulsars.
            I have to finalize a bike this week in any case. Lets see what happens in tomorrows test drive.

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            • #21
              I own a pulsar for past 1.5 years and i could not find any quality issues with it. But yes comparing with japanese legends the refinement is less but P180 is the best refined engine in pulsar series till date. Satisfies all ur requirements except pillion. I would suggest u to take a test drive of P180 as well.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by sirf_atul View Post
                Hi Guys,

                I did a test drive of RTR with pillion, the bike looks comfortable.
                I am planning to go ahead with this. One last thing I am concerned about it is -1. vibes issue that people mentioned about RTR
                2. Skidding issue with its tvs tyres.

                People even mentioned that vibes become so high at speends above 65 that it becomes difficult for pillion to rest his/her feet on foot pegs.
                Is it really true? please throw some light on this.
                It changes from bike to bike. There were more bikes with vibes in older lot than in the newer lot. You gotta maintain this bike with care. Tappets need adjustment at least every alternate service. Give this bike a good engine oil and lot of harsh vibes are gone. Give it a gpower or iridium plug and it accelerates smoother & faster (not mindblowingly fast but you can feel it when running beside another RTR) after 80KMPH. Maintain the chain carefully. ost people leave this unattended and the front sproket generates more vibes into the footrests.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by sirf_atul View Post
                  Thank you guys. I will test drive dazzler and GS150 R tomorrow and will post my experiences.
                  Another bike that I like is - P180, just because of it's sheer power.
                  Are pulsar bikes so unfavorable?
                  Heard a lot about quality issues of pulsars.
                  I have to finalize a bike this week in any case. Lets see what happens in tomorrows test drive.

                  pulsars are a bit week on quality and they do not last that long as the jap's.... but on their favour are the parts cost... a 180 is a very sensible bike for some one who wants very good FE+sheer power+Dynamics+VFM
                  Maintain them well and u'll enjoy years of thrills..... and i have heard that the standards of the jap's(honda,suzuki,yamz) r comin down a bit from since i last bought a jap (5years ago)... u cannot go wrong with a 180,test drove for my frnd and bought one and he never goes above 60~70,getting 50kmpl.... ur line up should be like this if u ask me...

                  p180 > dazzler > gs150r > RTR 180 > RTR 160 > ZMA-R > Unicorn > SZ-X
                  RED BULL did'nt give me WINGS, my BIKE did !!

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                  • #24
                    P180 is a very good choice.. however TVS is coming with ABS version of Apache as well.. so you could wait and test drive that one before going ahead with the purchase.
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                    • #25
                      look no further than suzuki gs-150R......its even have maximum votes in "bike of year" thread......

                      its new compared to pulsar breed.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Dogg View Post
                        pulsars are a bit week on quality and they do not last that long as the jap's.... but on their favour are the parts cost... a 180 is a very sensible bike for some one who wants very good FE+sheer power+Dynamics+VFM
                        Maintain them well and u'll enjoy years of thrills..... and i have heard that the standards of the jap's(honda,suzuki,yamz) r comin down a bit from since i last bought a jap (5years ago)... u cannot go wrong with a 180,test drove for my frnd and bought one and he never goes above 60~70,getting 50kmpl.... ur line up should be like this if u ask me...

                        p180 > dazzler > gs150r > RTR 180 > RTR 160 > ZMA-R > Unicorn > SZ-X
                        Thanks Bro for the line up, It has been of great help. I did test drive P180 as well, looks very refined, more refined that UG3 version. However the absense of kick starter and saree guard are a little concern. However I think, if i keep looking at such minor things there will always be something or the other in all bikes and I will never be able to get a perfect bike. I have to make a purchse coming weekend. Hopefully will decide between P180 or A160 Hyper edge.
                        Someone from XBhp sent me a message saying the laden weight of A160 is 130Kg and it is not good for 2 ppl. Even if the 2 persons (driver and pillion) are lean they can easily weigh up to 130kg or more. Is it a matter of concern??

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by sirf_atul View Post
                          Thanks Bro for the line up, It has been of great help. I did test drive P180 as well, looks very refined, more refined that UG3 version. However the absense of kick starter and saree guard are a little concern. However I think, if i keep looking at such minor things there will always be something or the other in all bikes and I will never be able to get a perfect bike. I have to make a purchse coming weekend. Hopefully will decide between P180 or A160 Hyper edge.
                          Someone from XBhp sent me a message saying the laden weight of A160 is 130Kg and it is not good for 2 ppl. Even if the 2 persons (driver and pillion) are lean they can easily weigh up to 130kg or more. Is it a matter of concern??
                          Not true, me and my girl have clocked miles on my rtr. and for reaching 130KG, it means I just have to load the bike with a saddle bag and a tail bag

                          My list goes as
                          - A180
                          - P180
                          - GSR150
                          - SZ (*)
                          - Avenger200

                          In that flow from performance to comfort.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by sirf_atul View Post
                            Thanks Bro for the line up, It has been of great help. I did test drive P180 as well, looks very refined, more refined that UG3 version. However the absense of kick starter and saree guard are a little concern. However I think, if i keep looking at such minor things there will always be something or the other in all bikes and I will never be able to get a perfect bike. I have to make a purchse coming weekend. Hopefully will decide between P180 or A160 Hyper edge.
                            Someone from XBhp sent me a message saying the laden weight of A160 is 130Kg and it is not good for 2 ppl. Even if the 2 persons (driver and pillion) are lean they can easily weigh up to 130kg or more. Is it a matter of concern??
                            I personally feel that A180 will be the better choice. If you have some more bucks to spend then go for it.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                              Not true, me and my girl have clocked miles on my rtr. and for reaching 130KG, it means I just have to load the bike with a saddle bag and a tail bag

                              My list goes as
                              - A180
                              - P180
                              - GSR150
                              - SZ (*)
                              - Avenger200

                              In that flow from performance to comfort.
                              Thanks Satyen for your quick response and for helping with your line up.
                              As most of my ride will be within city, I think P180 will be better considering pillion comfort as well. Avenger is no doubt the best in terms of comfort but it will be a bit hard to handle in city traffic. Thanks again for your response.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RAK View Post
                                I personally feel that A180 will be the better choice. If you have some more bucks to spend then go for it.
                                Thanks for your response. Good suggestion but considering pillion comfort, I think I'll go for P180

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