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  • #16
    check the back with a bone/joint specialist first

    if ok to ride, Avenger and Fazer would be the choices as off now.

    when on a long ride occasionally take breaks.

    happy riding

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    • #17
      In scooters TVS Wego has got most comfortable shocks and in bikes GS 150 will offer decent comfort for rider and pillion.. Have a test ride to get the feeling..

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      • #18
        Hey saj
        Sorry to hear that buddy.

        My friend also suffers a severe back issue, he has a slip disk or something and is terribly overweight.
        he used to ride a p150, but now he rides his mom's Activa.
        works well for him though.
        But i feel pot holes will create a problem with that too.

        as a personal opinion, ZMR will be a best buy.
        Karizma always was the most comfortable bike i ever sat on till date, with iGRS suspension, its even better, and the windshield is also higher.

        i happen to ride a friend's ZMR for more than 100kms, and its the most comfortable and the least back straining position ever, coupled with great shocks.
        I don't think going for completely flat seats (activa types) will solve your issue.
        Why don't you use a car instead ??
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        • #19
          HH Karizma will be the best bet , the modern day scooters are not that comfortable as the old vespas

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          • #20
            Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
            Why don't you use a car instead ??
            Strongly agree; 1 Lakh & Nano Done!!!

            @Nano - But I guess Sajj has his own troubles driving a car through congested places.
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            • #21
              I havent read the entire thread, but I say Karizma R.
              very comfortable riding stance and erect posture. great seats and stress free riding.
              The Avvy is also a great bike for bikers with a backache
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              • #22
                Originally posted by ashwhin View Post
                Test drive any of the Hero Honda vehicles (Passion Pro,CD Deluxe) and mainly in path holes. You will feel that they are far better than the Gas Filled Shock absorbers of Pulsar. Even I have a P150 ,but I feel HH vehicles have better shock absorbers. My first vehicle was HH CD 100 and still love it's shock absorbers.They are really good.
                +++1, I guess they come from Munjal Showa (they supply to Japanese auto makers in big way)

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                • #23
                  FZ / Fazer has 41 mm Front shock which is the largest in segment and rear monocross which is adjustable as per requirement.

                  But remember both Avenger and Fazer will be a pain in traffic conditions.

                  So do test ride both before coming to a conclusion.

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                  • #24
                    Thank you guys for the support.


                    Originally posted by l_gbabuin View Post
                    I dont know about latest vehicles, but kinetic honda was refered by many doctors during 1995.later that lml vespa with back support was of choice for back pain sufferers.main reason for back pain is rear shocks,and front shocks too,and improper tyre pressures.i drive slowly at 30-35Km/hr, iam feeling better,when i rash drive i get back pain.
                    May be u r right Ganesh, but the thing is, I hate snail pace speed, even in city too I try to keep not less than 50/hr and that doesn't mean that I am a rash driver, I like sedate driving glued to 60 every time unless I want to overtake. Hardly my odo needle finds 80kph mark. Even in a car my preferred speed is 70-80 where I'll get better FE, and obviously it gives me more confidence than on high speeds. Stepping on to 41 yr, need to be more mature and responsible than on my earlier days where I used to try the limits


                    Originally posted by aargee View Post
                    What ideally happens in Activa is, the effect on potholes are less painful, but quite uncomfortable after 5-10 Kms. While its the other way with Rx. You can keep riding all day long on straights but not even a smallest potholes. This is my experience.
                    That was very informative RG, I too had a image of Activa is more comfortable, but never tried that for not more than 10kms just bcz of being a true biker, to be honest I was bit nervous


                    Originally posted by aargee View Post
                    I strongly agree with this & that's one of the reason I'm a retro lover, like GT1000, Triumph Bonneville. The modern day machines are designed from several points like...
                    - Aggressive looks
                    - Back mounted foot pegs
                    - Fairings (damn!!!) to deflect air flow
                    - Slight forward leaning position

                    The straight seats with mid mounted foot pegs that provide a L sitting postures are THE BEST whether one has a back pain or not, which are missing these days.

                    Well, the laid back posture will be a comfort to keep riding all day long. But a pothole is still something that hurts your back for sure. The laid back helps a lot w.r.t positioning your butt to legs. But if you're able to get a ride that is smaller & you can stretch your hands right bottom to your handle bars so that it appears as if you're on top of the ride seated in L position, there's no better way to ride. Again, not suitable as all day long, but for quite few Kms for sure
                    Straight seating posture will offer better support to the back and there by it can handle the shocks more efficiently than on any other posture. Also I think that's the only posture reduces the fatigue on long drives, like on cruiser bikes.

                    Originally posted by aargee View Post
                    Me too, not a fan of RE though I like to gaze it . RE - hard suspension should be fine. No personal experience, but a guess though.

                    Not necessary that a AM suspensions or a replacement would've done justice. It all depends on how one's back take the support. Best way is to keep exercising. Don't ask me if I do one, I don't do it either
                    RE shocks are not that friendly at least for me. May be its a prejudice as I don't like it.

                    Another thing I've noticed is tyre pressure plays a major role in this. I used to fill 28F & 30R which is the best for me and when ever the tyre pressure increases my back is sensitive enough to notice it. Within 2 days it starts aching.

                    And about exercise, hmm... its a long story.... Not a good thing for coach potatoes though.

                    Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
                    oh no,i just saw the pm,.how are you.

                    it may be bitter but doing daily dash of 50 km in our country with super stess on a 2 wheeler took the toll on you back,and i am sorry to say the bitter word,if you love your back ,forget 2 wheels,at least for couple of months or years,depending upon your condition.
                    the problem is generally low and mid back pain which occurs because of the bad shock absorbing capacity on 2 wheelers and lack of lumber support.
                    your doctor said to use car/bus mainly because of 2 reasons-
                    1.lumber support from back rest
                    2.better springs.

                    yes it feels like weird but actually true.

                    follow your doctors prescription properly.when he recommends start physio therapy.the funda is to build up the supportive muscles of the back strong,so it can support the vertebra.
                    that what i would say.but if you really have no option other then 2 wheels then find a bike with a softest sprung springs.
                    Thanks for the concerns right now am under medication for the inflammation, once its over have to start the physiotherapy.

                    I know its hard to accept to get rid of 2 wheels, but I've still hope in retaining it. My doc says if possible avoid 2 wheels, I guess after the physiotherapy I can continue with a comfortable one.


                    Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
                    use proper back/waiste belt
                    add your seating position to as neutral as possible.but still,i dont know how much it will going to work.better invest in a disel car.thats practical.even a nano will do.
                    Yes, that too under consideration and will check with him, may be he'll advise one.

                    Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                    I would say try out the new gen Pulsars (150/180). I found them to be quite comfy.

                    Bullets does have nice riding position but the shocks are not so good - my R15 absorbs shocks better. BTW, if you ride with pillion, R15 is very good - far better than my old Pulsar. Not that I suggest a R15 for you, I feel monoshocks to be better than dual shocks.

                    I did not ride the Uni for extensive period, but it seemed to have very nice seating position.

                    And HH Hunk has the best suspension, but the riding position is a little sporty.

                    So, just try out these - Pulsar, Bullet, Uni and Hunk and see how you feel.

                    I suggest the HH Hunk for you.
                    Yes, new gen Pulsys r far better than the old gen ones with new swing arm, gas filled shocks and alloys.

                    R15's posture is bit forward leaned which I dont think its good for me at the moment and I dont like that posture too.

                    Yes mono shocks are better than dual ones. Have to get the feed backs from Shree, Hey man where r u

                    Originally posted by ashwhin View Post
                    Test drive any of the Hero Honda vehicles (Passion Pro,CD Deluxe) and mainly in path holes. You will feel that they are far better than the Gas Filled Shock absorbers of Pulsar. Even I have a P150 ,but I feel HH vehicles have better shock absorbers. My first vehicle was HH CD 100 and still love it's shock absorbers.They are really good.
                    Yes I know CD 100/Splendor shocks are the best among those 100CC league. 10 years back I tried that with my old Samurai and it as much comfortable than the stock, it did not perform well like in a Splendor though.


                    Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                    Hey saj
                    Sorry to hear that buddy.

                    My friend also suffers a severe back issue, he has a slip disk or something and is terribly overweight.
                    he used to ride a p150, but now he rides his mom's Activa.
                    works well for him though.
                    But i feel pot holes will create a problem with that too.

                    as a personal opinion, ZMR will be a best buy.
                    Karizma always was the most comfortable bike i ever sat on till date, with iGRS suspension, its even better, and the windshield is also higher.

                    i happen to ride a friend's ZMR for more than 100kms, and its the most comfortable and the least back straining position ever, coupled with great shocks.
                    I don't think going for completely flat seats (activa types) will solve your issue.
                    ZMA/R are known for its reliability and comfort for long drives. But will that fall into 70K bracket?

                    Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                    Why don't you use a car instead ??
                    Will u pay the petrol expense 350/- every day? I've other decent loans to pay off

                    Jokes apart, another thing is we have to crawl through the traffic for at atleast 5KMs where I'll be wasting min of 20-30 mins in a car, but once on a bike I can reach the destination within 30 mins. There's a clear saving of 30 min on a bike and thats what really glueing me to bike.

                    Originally posted by aargee View Post
                    Strongly agree; 1 Lakh & Nano Done!!!

                    @Nano - But I guess Sajj has his own troubles driving a car through congested places.
                    Well said RG, That covers everything

                    As a personal opinion, I hate Nano. Not Nanotech
                    Last edited by sajjt; 02-18-2011, 03:26 PM.
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                    • #25
                      Bike Riding Postures

                      Guys I've got some interesting write up on bike riding postures. Here's it:

                      To ride a motorcycle, you're going to have to do some posturing. Riding postures are dictated by two main factors -- the design of your bike and the build of your body -- both of which can be modified, but only to a point. Sit on as many bikes as possible to find the right combination to fit your needs. You'll find there are countless models from which to choose, but really only three basic riding postures: standard, sport, and cruiser.

                      1) Standard
                      Standard is called standard for a reason. Of the three riding postures, the standard position is the most neutral. The rider isn't angled forward or slung back in any way. The body is upright. Head and eyes are up, looking through the path of travel. For the hands to rest comfortably on the grips, the arms are extended, but not hyper-extended. There should be enough slack for elbows to remain relaxed and slightly bent. You should be able to "flap your wings" in this position. Knees rest against the tank and are also bent at a height that is slightly lower than the hips. The rider's feet rest on the footpegs at a 90 degree angle, almost directly below the knees.

                      As the rider sits straight up and high, this position allows for increased visibility. This generally means a higher seat height, which might cause problems for some riders

                      who have short legs and may have trouble putting both feet on the ground. Due to the upright body position, there may also be increased wind resistance. From the standard riding posture, riders can easily stand up on the pegs to surmount an obstacle. The standard position can also be sustained for long road trips or short commutes. In general, standard posture provides excellent access to all controls, and is often preferred within most new rider courses.



                      Many models employ standard riding posture, but a few examples are the BMW F 650 GS, Harley-Davidson Sportster, Buell Blast, and Honda Nighthawk.

                      2) Sport
                      Sport riding demands a forward lean. The rider's head is angled in front of the body, with the head and eyes looking through the path of travel. The upper body sits forward of the hips. The stomach rests against the tank, while the back muscles and legs support the weight of the upper torso. The arms are relaxed and elbows are bent. Knees are also bent and held against the tank, with feet resting on the footpegs in position behind the knees.
                      Sport posture is an aerodynamically superior position resulting in the least amount of wind resistance for the rider. Performance riding, particularly in curves, may be enhanced. Without height, the ability to see far down the road is reduced, and the riding position is often cramped, which may be difficult to sustain for more than a couple of hours.



                      There are many popular sportbikes, including the Ducati Monster, Yamaha YZF-R6, Kawasaki Ninja, and Suzuki GSXR.

                      2) Cruiser
                      Cruisers are slung low and back, giving the rider a relaxed look and feel. The rider's body is slightly reclined, almost leaning back toward the rear of the motorcycle. As always, the head and eyes are up looking through the path of travel. Arms are more extended in this position than in others, but the elbows should still be bent. Due to the degree of backward lean by the body, some riders over-extend to reach the handgrips, which may cause fatigue, shoulder pain and muscle stiffness. The knees are bent and against the tank at almost the same height as the hips, but the feet rest on the footpegs forward of the knees.

                      Cruising posture is popular, and understandably so as the laid-back riding position provides greater extension for the legs. When cruising, the leg position can even be varied with the addition of accessory footpegs. With forward controls, however, the rider will find it difficult to stand on the pegs to cross an obstacle without pulling weight onto the handgrips. Lower seat heights, often found with this posture, provide comfortable flat footing.



                      Harley-Davidson's cruisers stem from the Dyna, Softail and Touring families. Other cruisers include the Yamaha V Star, Honda Shadow and Suzuki Boulevard.
                      Your posture can be perfect when you assume the position. The best one for you is always the one that allows you to Ride Right!


                      You can read the full write up here:
                      Motorcycle Riding Positions,Riding Postures,Motorcycle Riders - Women Riders Now - Motorcycling News & Reviews
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                      • #26
                        Glad to know that you don't hate me

                        Well, its true, Car is really expensive to drive daily.
                        Apart from the Time it takes to reach places.

                        Activa or other scootys won't necessarily satisfy you, with an upright seating position, a pothole will be your worst nightmare.

                        ZMR though expensive, but is really really the most comfortable bike i ever sat on.
                        Why don't you try lowering your Handlebar and give it a test ride, it will reduce pressure on the back, will cost you 150 bucks max.
                        Giving a lot to a fiero.
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                        • #27
                          Hey bro, I am very sorry for the delayed response. Hope you understand.

                          Coming to the point.

                          Unicorn has very good riding posture but the seats aren't really comfortable. It starts itching. You can get custom seat work. But you need to make sure you don't set the mono to hard else its a killer to your back if roads are not good. I personally felt Unicorn paired with RD handle is very very good.

                          Unicorn Dazzler - A bettered Unicorn for 2000rs more. Comfort wise it stands between Unicorn and Karizma. (Review from a friend who owned Unicorn/Karizma/Dazzler) Handling in city is way better than old Unicorn (very light) and cruising on highways is made better with marginal power increase.

                          Karizma has all + of Unicorn and the seat is much better than Unicorn. Even here I would prefer a RD handle bar.

                          Karizma ZMR - You feel as if you are sitting on a sofa But the clip-on handles are slightly shorter than ZMA which has neglible chances of giving back ache but suspension is far bettered ZMA-R

                          Bullet -
                          Very comfortable but instead of fueling a Bullet u can fill up Alto K10 Your top speeds will be limited.

                          R15 - Big No if you have back ache.

                          New gen Pulsar's - I don't think the clip-on's will help you thou the suspension is bettered.

                          Avenger - No idea.

                          Try the back support belt which Dr. posted in previous pages. Its really helpful. I have used on one of my ride.
                          Last edited by Shreeni0403; 02-18-2011, 11:24 PM.

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                          • #28
                            So, it seems ZMR is one of the best.

                            Just TD HH Hunk once before deciding though.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                              Hey bro, I am very sorry for the delayed response. Hope you understand.

                              Coming to the point.

                              Unicorn has very good riding posture but the seats aren't really comfortable. It starts itching. You can get custom seat work. But you need to make sure you don't set the mono to hard else its a killer to your back if roads are not good. I personally felt Unicorn paired with RD handle is very very good.

                              Unicorn Dazzler - A bettered Unicorn for 2000rs more. Comfort wise it stands between Unicorn and Karizma. (Review from a friend who owned Unicorn/Karizma/Dazzler) Handling in city is way better than old Unicorn (very light) and cruising on highways is made better with marginal power increase.

                              Karizma has all + of Unicorn and the seat is much better than Unicorn. Even here I would prefer a RD handle bar.

                              Karizma ZMR - You feel as if you are sitting on a sofa But the clip-on handles are slightly shorter than ZMA which has neglible chances of giving back ache but suspension is far bettered ZMA-R

                              Bullet -
                              Very comfortable but instead of fueling a Bullet u can fill up Alto K10 Your top speeds will be limited.

                              R15 - Big No if you have back ache.

                              New gen Pulsar's - I don't think the clip-on's will help you thou the suspension is bettered.

                              Avenger - No idea.

                              Try the back support belt which Dr. posted in previous pages. Its really helpful. I have used on one of my ride.
                              Shree... dear

                              U not late man. U are always on right time

                              This is what I was looking for. Very neat and detailed review

                              It seems my list is narrowed to HH ZMR and Hunk. I've never riden a ZMR, is that so comfy? Whats the FE avg you are getting now?

                              No one for FZ I thought being with mono shocks there will be more people will stand for FZ.

                              My bad I could've start a pole too.

                              Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                              So, it seems ZMR is one of the best.

                              Just TD HH Hunk once before deciding though.
                              Yes Abhi, will do a test drive and decide. Am not in a hurry, am just waiting for my physiotherapy to be started, by that time I can come to a good choice.
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                              • #30
                                I personally didn't like the seating comfort of old hunk. Hope the new one is bettered.
                                I'm getting an average of 45+ @ speeds of 80++
                                Last week had been with a fren for his run-in ride. Believe me or not, under 60kmph i got 60+kmpl

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