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**vipin_s** · 04-20-2011, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Guru_DTSi View Post

Desired Bikes :
1) Pulsar 180 (Already used to the Hamara Bajaj Brand)
2) Suzuki GS150R (Issues with Servicing the bike, nearest service center is 12 Kms away from home)
3) Unicorn Dazzler (Even this has got a huge waiting period now and the Honda Showroom guys are a put off, looks like they're doing a favor by selling these bikes)
4) Apace 180 ABS (I've fallen in love with the white colored one. I have ridden a friend's Apache 150 for sometime and not very comfortable with its handling, also the vibrations are a put off).
5) HH Hunk with Rear Disk (Worried about the Availability of spares now since the HH Breakup has been official)

1. Since you are ok with Bajaj, P180 will be best choice and a decent upgrade, no need to look down the list !! Go for it !!
2. That's good way of ruling out, convinience is important.
3. Some HMSI dealers' attitude sucks, but FYI bike is good
4. P180 over A180 anyday
5. Your assumption is based on rumours, HH in fact sees that sufficient spares are stocked before selling. You can get HH Street spares even today, Street was sacked a decade ago !!

**Guru_DTSi** · 04-20-2011, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

SZ - X employs the largest drum brakes man! May be the test vehicle you got would have had a problem.

The ONLY gripe with P180 is that there are so many of similar looking ones on the road!

I did read about the Large brake thingy but I guess you're right. Maybe the test bike wasn't too good. Also, it had Eurogrip tyres, which I'd seen only on the new Discovers and Pulsar135, 150.

@Curious

I felt the P135 to be too small for my build. I haven't considered the R15 as well cos my pot belly gets crushed

when trying to ride it. And it's taken thousands of rupees worth of alcohol to have it grow to the current level

@Vipin, didn't see your post earlier. A couple of my friends do have issues with getting spare parts for the Karizma and the CBZ Extreme. However, another guy with the CBZ classic seems to have no issues with getting spares. Now, all of us live in the same area and have a limited number of Dealers to reach out to. Hence, not very comforting when 2 out of 3 have issues with procuring spares.

**Curious** · 04-20-2011, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Guru_DTSi View Post

@Curious

I felt the P135 to be too small for my build. I haven't considered the R15 as well cos my pot belly gets crushed

when trying to ride it. And it's taken thousands of rupees worth of alcohol to have it grow to the current level

75kg and 5.11 seems to be ideal according to BMI scale.

Heck I'm 6.1, 115kg, 46" gut

I face no problem on bikes.

**Wanted DoA** · 04-20-2011, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by Guru_DTSi View Post

Thanks for all the updates folks. One thing I am worried about the Pulsars is that Bajaj has this knack of upgrading their bikes with no pre-release info. The best thing I liked about the P220F is the wondeful headlamps. But Considering the amount of Travel I need to do everyday, I need to consider the Mileage as well, 60-65 Kms everyday in City is what worries me.
What's the difference in mileage of P180, A180 and P220 ?

There will not be significant difference in A180's and P220's mileage. P180 will give few more kilometers per liter for sure

I don't mind waiting for a couple of months, Since I'd be using my car as well once in a while if I do have some back-aches or butt-aches, But I just want to ensure that in the daily grind, there is some difference between my bike and my car in terms of financials.
Considering your backaches why not a Avenger. It comes with a detuned 220cc engine now. that should give better mileage I guess.

I did get a chance to ride a friends Karizma (the old one) and liked its seating position and engine refinement, but cost and availability of spares also needs consideration. I am the kinda guy who keeps replacing even cosmetic parts cos they look jaded. With my current bike, a fairing replacement cost me just 600. The fuel tank and other stuff are still as good as new.
Karizma is a great bike considering you needs but the spare availability sucks. And they are too pricey e.g My P200's disk pads costs me Rs 60 Only. Karizma's is over 1K I guess.

My confusion graph is tangentially moving up each time I start considering the various options.
Practical cells of my brain say --> Get a 150cc. Good mileage. Money saved.
Passion cells of my brain say --> Get the best (fastest). "The P220" and enjoy the long journeys at triple digit cruises.

I'd definitely go for the P220 without second thought, IF (that's a big F) Bajaj launces the much rumoured P220 4Valve.

Read this

**Zigor** · 04-20-2011, 09:59 PM

Honda Dazzler ! Take a test drive and you will be pleasantly surprised. The most underrated feature which no one talks about is the top speed. Honda Dazzler has a top speed of around 118-120 km/h, which is great. It has pretty good power in every gear.

**vrugonnab** · 04-20-2011, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

You SHOULD test ride the SZ-X and SZ-R

else, put your money on P180... dont venture into RTR land...

and the reason for it? Just curious.. coz, even I don't know much about RTR's.

**vishnups17** · 04-20-2011, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post

and the reason for it? Just curious.. coz, even I don't know much about RTR's.

Same here how can a P180 over the A180

**atulgupta230489** · 04-20-2011, 11:17 PM

Go for dazzler. highly refined engine, the monoshock does a brilliant job and you'll easily get 45-55 kmpl depending on your riding style. true value for money!

and don't worry about the spares. the bike and its parts are of good build quality. and the best thing is that you won't find too many of these around you, like the pulsars

**Guru_DTSi** · 04-21-2011, 12:02 AM

Lot many votes for the P180 and two each for the Dazzler and the A180. Dazzler's got a 3 month waiting period here in Hyderabad. I think the Honda guys are taking it too far now, with waiting periods for all their bikes except for the Aviator and actually, even this, they say they can deliver only after two days. Heck, even the DIO's got a 15 day wait and all these days, I must not have seen more than a hundered of them in the entire city.
I am really hoping Bajaj launches its 4-valve Pulsars by End of this month (Wishful Thinking

)... I can probably gift myself one for my B'day.

**princesirohi** · 04-21-2011, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

... dont venture into RTR land...

i am little bit curios about this part bro....??

**atulgupta230489** · 04-21-2011, 04:05 AM

All that i could say is dazzler is worth the wait. and if you're in a hurry then rtr 180 is the best option and ABS has made the performer much safer

mileage is fair enough and you'll love the engine's pull! and is much much better than pulsar180. the turning radius is also smaller than p180

**Guru_DTSi** · 04-21-2011, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by atulgupta230489 View Post

All that i could say is dazzler is worth the wait. and if you're in a hurry then rtr 180 is the best option and ABS has made the performer much safer

mileage is fair enough and you'll love the engine's pull! and is much much better than pulsar180. the turning radius is also smaller than p180

I am not in a hurry, but for only a thousand rupees more than the Dazzler, I can get a P180. However, it is the daily running costs that bother me more than the initial cost of the bike. I am a poor man

!!!

Going on a Solo Trip to Manthralayam (Kurnool Dist.) today. Second solo trip in as many months.

**atulgupta230489** · 04-21-2011, 12:53 PM

Then you can straight away go for dazzler, will surely be more economical than the 180s

**Guru_DTSi** · 04-21-2011, 04:03 PM

What's the mileage of the Dazzler and P180, in normal City conditions?

**atulgupta230489** · 04-21-2011, 05:21 PM

In city conditions dazzler gives around 45 and p180 around 38 to 40

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