Anyone who knows how to use a screw driver on any carb bike can tune it in a way that the bike will start with the first kick itself, mine was also tuned like that till a few days ago, had to retune because, even though a rich bike is better than a lean one, as its gets hotter, you'll pay the price in terms of performance loss.


Come on, am I the only one who felt so????

Re-read am a ZMA owner, and the ZMA has drums at rear.

So true.

My kotion remains still unaswered...

@ Anant: I guess, you are the perfect person to answer this...

P.S.: @neevarp16: Hope you won't mind me asking this question in your thread. It will help you too... (in making informed wise decision)

Disclaimer: This reply may attract backlash, reader discretion is advised. Only posting here because I was called for. All opinions are my own formed from a ~10km TR at Rushabh Honda, Nasik, MH AND reading the extremely scarce reviews on the internet.

Personally, I couldn't find anything exceptionally good in the CBR150R. Ask the owners on the ownership thread what they feel about me .

Apparently, the CBR is a good track bike which is also comfortable for the street / highway, even for the pillion. But not so much in bumper to bumper traffic. So, if you want an R15 but hate the track focussed + pillion unfriendly package, you may pay a 12k premium for the features missing on the R15 and opt for the CBR150R instead. Since the peak power is marginally higher, it might reach a higher overall top speed vis-a-vis R15, but only slightly.

I only recommended this to the Thread Starter since he feels that the ZMA / ZMR are 'idiotic' old machines and obviously doesn't like them too much. And since he doesn't want a Pulsar, this was the only one remotely close to what he needs. If somebody doesn't have any such reservations, the recommendation for Touring remains the same, i.e. ZMA / ZMR / P220 for upto Rs.1.5 lac, CBR250R for upto 2 lac.

Thanks for the reply Anant. I asked this because, I observed that threadstarter is more inclined towards CBR 150 and don't want ZMA/ZMR just because they are old tech (!?) (Even though he admits that they are best). But is ready to pay considerable premium more, even after having tight budget (that too for nothing-sooo-special).

@ threadstarter: Now the call is yours. After all it's your money, hence your choice...

A reply!

Sorry guys! Was unable to follow the thread for the past month!

have done a TD with CBR150R and as i have never ridden a high bhp bike, I can't say if it is lagging in the normal torque that range bikes provide!

thanks for all those valuable replies, and thanks a lot again!

@TS

When did Touring started merging with Top SPeed ????

I see in most of your replies you are asking for Top Speed Tourer ??? Very contradict though.

Any tourer won't asked for top speed but would asked for torque and comfort? What Top speed has to do with touring ?? please suggest??

ZMR/ZMA/CBR/P220/CL 350 awenger would be doing farily well in 110-115kms/hr.

Where will you ride constantly above 120km/hr???

Touring gives pleasure if ridden at 100/110km/hr.

TBTS and CL350 is also a good option.

But please stop mentioning Top Speed with touring. With your replies i see you as a Racer more than Tourer

please choose a bike as per practical choice.

HAve you choosed any bike yet ?? What is your final option to buy??

PLease do let us know whcih bike you went for??

But, aren't there kinds of touring like fast touring and relaxed touring? (correct me, if am wrong)

you can have me as a fast tourer! Am so keen not about the top speed but about the state of engine at speeds of 120kmph, cause, of course i need it to be relaxed! I love to cover long distances at stretches!

And, about the choice, not yet selected one!
Machines lingering as choices are, ZMR/CBR150, and of course a biker would love to tour on any machine that his soul loves to!

I cant go any further beyond 1.3L, cause that is already a lot stretching my pockets!(of course, my dad's too!).

Currently, test riding all bikes within the range and in search of the bike that gives me a feel like, "damn! i could go places with you! ", and necessarily not to be a 'tourer' branded machine, because, not a lot of options are there in the budget!

Sorry i haven't heard of fast touring. Can any body on this xbhp support this statement "Fast Touring" ??

Easily 120km/hr not an easy task my friend??? your statements are for race not for touring.

But if you want easily 120km/hr then you have to pull up your budget more than 1.5L

120km/hr i don't see any bike easily runs on 120km/hr while touring for longer stretches! Not even RE CL 350/CBR250/P220 nor ZMR/A.

At this speed even CBR starts a minute vibration though it goes to 140-145km/hr but with a stain on engine. you need twin engines for 120 easily without exhausting ! i.e GT250r or NINJA or RE CL500 but these all are higher budget bikes and with out mileages.

Touring is best at 80-90km/hr and controlling is best that this speed. i don;t think any tourer would like to run at high speed, becuase high speed don't give you relaxness but a super alert mind state on road to control your bike.

Is 100km/hr bad ??

Brother in 1.3 L you won't get a bike which runs at 120km/hr with out any engine strains!!

after reading all your posts I'll suggest you to go with ZMR..
I agree that CBR150R produces almost same bhp's as ZMR but what also matters here while touring is "torque", you can check torque figures of both bikes yourself moreover also check at what RPM's they are producing peak power..

one thing i can't live without while touring in night condition is passing light & CBR doesn't have one..i can't understand WHY??

As per your requirement of top speed..I've dragged my ZMR up to 134kmph max & you can cruise at the speed in between 110-120kmph all day..though on that speeds you'll get lesser mileage of around 30-35kmpl but on speeds up to 80kmph you can easily get FE around 45+kmpl on highways..

apart from LC or a 4V Engine i don't see anything which can prove ZMR as an outdated bike..& i don't think LC is that bigger factor as we have seen bikes with LC(say baby Duke or early phases of R15) sometimes also getting heated up in Indian conditions..& that's not a big deal..only a 4V Engine can make it a better tourer by increasing slight power output as well apart from that its already a great tourer & according to me its best in its class without any doubt..so if you can't go for CBR250R then go for ZMR without any second thought..its reliable as hell & I am saying this after using it for past couple of years..a happy & satisfied owner

Are you sure my friend that ZMR can cruise for 120kmph whole day ??? without engine stressed out or vibrations??? i have heard about engine vibration at 120kmph. engine stressed out means like no engine struggling at taht speed?? like CBR250 or NINJA???

I am still septical here..

Would like to have few mor comments on this 120kmph on ZMR all day with out any engine stressed.


And if it does then it's awesome!!

nope i didn't say you can ride all day on 120kmph continuously..i said in between the speeds of 110-120kmph..on 110kmph it feels very normal while riding & doing 120kmph in between won't effect it any how..

& as per above post..i totally agree that in his budget he won't get any bike which can cruise all day on 120kmph without showing any sign of stress..so does ZMR..

Thanks for a elaborated post mate! and yeah, within my budget ZMR proves worth.

Anyways, waiting for a TD. Showroom here said their TD ZMR has gone for the near town, and 'll be back in a couple of days. So, waiting for that.

i have clocked 128kmph with my ZMA on highways.....after 120kmph engine makes sound..but i didnt try to ride all day in that speed...i dont know whether it can be driven all day or not; but as per my personal experience before my engine stressed; myself was stressed out. it needs huge amount of concentration and alert to cruise at that speed....best speed while cruising i feel 80-90kmph in ZMA...

thanks mate!
that is a valuable note to consider!

The End!

And finally here ends my search!

I have penned down my requirements at the start of this thread!
And from that day, did a lotta research and got to know many things!
So, here's the plot of my journey in selecting my first own ride...

Apache,
though always my favorite <is still>, would have gone for it if atleast they have not gone for that cosmetic changes. Now I hate that <face> of my first love!

ZMR,
did a test drive. Was much impressed with ,the nature engine reaches speeds, and the bike. Gives a big bike feel and a premium feel of owning it. But, my mind still not accepting it owing to its old tech, yet hard proven.
But, still I loved the bike.
Interested should sure check it.

R15 V2
Did a test drive and just one word, Awesome!!
absolutely no cons, but am already on the heavier side of my physique and my friends who owns it said there are chances that i could get pain in my hands as I have to lean and my weight will be supported in my wrists. And some reviews added to it.
Sad for me, I cannot go with this.
But, an awesome machine from Yamaha!

GS150r
Didn't have a chance to ride it, though reviews said its relaxed on highways.
But, that unavailability part is that made me neglect considering it. For an ASC, its 100kms away from my home.
I feel Suzuki should improve its network.

Fazer.
Marketed as a tourer and many have done tours on that. Yet online reviews said it lacks the punch beyond 80kmph. So, was on the weaker side to check it.

CBR150r
Did a TD. I don't know, maybe as am new to the performance category bikes, I didn't feel what others say the lack of torque in low speeds. Its almost the same as R15. I was urged to give it some revs, but i felt that is normal. But, then the machine is awesome again.
Competitor for R15, if not for its pricing.

So, after all this.. yeah, as you may have guessed, gone with CBR150R.
Reasons,

• Good performance package
• Good seating position, <pillion seat was not a constraint with me>
• Nice looks
• From the Honda stable <My dad owns a honda, and kinda like it>
• I have to say, many said lack of switchgear and cheap build, though I, personally, never felt it with the bike. May be for a newcomer who is not experienced with premium builds of bikes, but Honda didn't failed to impress me, atleast.

So, for every biker soul
MG sir, for approving
Siddharth_ZMR, Chandru Raj, sunny_, satheez_7, satyenpoojary, saipranav, Rajarshi, Rahul.Gvli, Vishwas Bharadwaj, Divya Sharan, Above_All, antz.bin, ashwinprakas, dual disc 200, somen1984, 111diablo111, who considered my query and replied with their thoughts, THANKS a lot!
And specially to Enthusiastic sir, who replied even after I was little rude to him! Sorry sir, I was little out of normal that day, and thanks!

and Xbhp played a vital role for me in selecting my bike as i learned many about bikes from this forum. Will stay here forever!
Thanks Xbhp!

Booked my BabyCbr and it is expected within a couple of weeks.
So, over to the ownership thread!