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  • #31
    FI is a definite YES.only if you live in some rural areas with no tvs service will you go for carb version.
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    • #32
      Took a TD of Fi some time back. As soon as i sat on it, it felt small for me. I am 5ft 9in tall. I was among the first to take the TD of Fi at Tristar in Domlur. I hadn't ridden a carb before(not even now) so can't comment on that variant. But for the Fi, its a peach of a machine. I felt the low end to be much better in P220 but only marginally. Exhaust sounded like a Dolby stereo. Great music for the ears. Gears were smooth even though the bike was undergoing run-in. Brakes were solid with a nice bite. Vibes didn't creep in as i couldn't take the bike beyond 4.5k rpm. The blue speedo is another brownie point for it. Really worth it for the price but had it been a bit longer and torquier low end, it would have a been perfect.

      Waiting for HH to show what ZMA Fi is made of. But When? is the million dollar question.
      Last edited by srinath34; 12-05-2008, 05:35 PM. Reason: typo
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      • #33
        Originally posted by srinath34 View Post
        .....I felt the low end to be much better than P220 but only marginally.....
        That's quite confusing.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by pranay View Post
          That's quite confusing.
          +1

          coz apache is known for its low lower end torque as its a big oversquare engine..
          The 220 packs in lots of lower end punch and apache comes no where near to it.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by road_ripper View Post

            coz apache is known for its low lower end torque as its a big oversquare engine..
            The 220 packs in lots of lower end punch and apache comes no where near to it.
            The p220 is a higher cc engine, so will have better torque across the range a bit.
            The RTR, although it has a oversquare engine, the cam profile changes the character a bit. It has good low down poke too. Its an off idle screamer. The RTR will have more low end than a p180 too.
            Now, tell me how is that the R15 being a long stroke motor has less low end then?
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            • #36
              I meant that he has said low end is MUCH BETTER in RTR-Fi. Then he has said its only MARGINALLY BETTER. Thats what was confusing. Which felt faster is a matter of testing it out personally. So I won't comment on what is faster, which has more poke etc etc.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Joel View Post
                The RTR, although it has a oversquare engine, the cam profile changes the character a bit. It has good low down poke too. Its an off idle screamer. The RTR will have more low end than a p180 too.
                Now, tell me how is that the R15 being a long stroke motor has less low end then?
                I have ridden the Rtrfi extensively buddy.. no wonder that it gives a lot of outburst on the higher revs than the p180, it simply blasts till 12k, love that.. but we're talking about low down torque... apache struggles so much low down the revs man.. i mean keep the rtr fi below 3k and u'll know what i mean..u feel like petrol is not flowing properly.. it gasps for breath. Do the same on a P180 and man it pulls soo even and neat even loads of pulling at 2k rpm..
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                  if its seriously 1500rs only....then we both will raid the SVC together sam
                  you bet satish

                  try calling the tvs people to get some info on that will you
                  Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                  ^^^ u'll hav to buy the new alloy too... make it abt 3.5 - 4k for alloy and then the disk
                  ture ,,
                  Originally posted by gd76 View Post
                  I went to Zen TVS & Ashwa TVS yesterday enquiring about the FI, the guy at Zen told me that waiting for FI is about a month, but if I needed it urgently they could talk to the company & get it in 10 - 15 days. Ashwa TVS told the waiting period for the same would be about 30 - 45 days. And yes the RTR is available with rear disc brake as an option. FI is available in 4 colors namely Black, Titanium grey, Orange & yellow.

                  @ All: What do you guys suggest I replace my P180 classic with ? The FZ16 or the RTR FI ? Thanks in advance for the inputs.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by sam92 View Post

                    go for FI dude .. its the best <150 cc bike in india
                    u mean 160
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                    • #40
                      Even i saw a Yellow Refresh with a rear disk brake.Good for those people who don't want to shell out more in the guise of Fi!!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                        Even i saw a Yellow Refresh with a rear disk brake.Good for those people who don't want to shell out more in the guise of Fi!!
                        confirmed. I see an RTR carb with rear disc on the basement parking lot in the building .
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by road_ripper View Post
                          I have ridden the Rtrfi extensively buddy.. no wonder that it gives a lot of outburst on the higher revs than the p180, it simply blasts till 12k, love that.. but we're talking about low down torque... apache struggles so much low down the revs man.. i mean keep the rtr fi below 3k and u'll know what i mean..u feel like petrol is not flowing properly.. it gasps for breath. Do the same on a P180 and man it pulls soo even and neat even loads of pulling at 2k rpm..
                          I said RTR not FI. The RTR FI has a higher torque peak over the RTR carb and hence it has more of higher rpm charcter.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by pranay View Post
                            confirmed. I see an RTR carb with rear disc on the basement parking lot in the building .
                            accordin to the posts here......if it's available for 1500 bucks
                            man it's a steal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by pranay View Post
                              u mean 160
                              yeah thankz
                              Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                              accordin to the posts here......if it's available for 1500 bucks
                              man it's a steal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                              totally man .. i am going to rush at 12k RPM to tvs serv center if it comes for 1500

                              i just need a confirmation about its possible or not
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by srinath34 View Post
                                I felt the low end to be much better than P220 but only marginally.
                                A thousand apologies. It was a typo. What i meant to say is that the low end is much better in P220 than RTR Fi.

                                Sorry again.

                                Srinath
                                Last edited by srinath34; 12-05-2008, 05:34 PM.
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