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**antz.bin** · 08-30-2012, 11:57 AM

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**shahbaz63** · 08-30-2012, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Ishwor View Post

Safety is my prime concern and mileage second
FZ: Have heard new fz has new carburator and lower torque so has increased mileage.How true is it.Will it provide 40+.I have used fz16 and it provides 30.
Has it got rim bending issue.

Dazzler:How is its handling and stability.I know it has good engine and better mileage

RTR: I am worried about its reliability and engine life.How about vibration.

I am a aggresive rider so i want most safe bike among all.you can advice me any other too but has to be under 90K.

Safety - Well I hope you are really serious about it so add 5k more & get TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS Any Day ...

Mileage I am getting Mileage between 45-50km/l

Agressive - Hand down its RTR any day....

But RTR will always make you feel restless soul biker, very aggressive & that adreline rush feeling dont expect it to behave like Innocent Angel never ....

Bye the way Apart From Safety & Mileage do tell us more about things like for what you will be using your bike ?

**princesirohi** · 08-30-2012, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Ishwor View Post

Safety is my prime concern and mileage second
FZ: Have heard new fz has new carburator and lower torque so has increased mileage.How true is it.Will it provide 40+.I have used fz16 and it provides 30.
Has it got rim bending issue.

Dazzler:How is its handling and stability.I know it has good engine and better mileage

RTR: I am worried about its reliability and engine life.How about vibration.

I am a aggresive rider so i want most safe bike among all.you can advice me any other too but has to be under 90K.

If SAFETY is your prime concern, get an Apache 180 RTR ABS.

for mileage, go for dazzler.

handling and stability of all the bikes mentioned is good, FZ has an additional advantage of wider tyres, whereas RTR has race developed handling and stability.

RTR: reliabilty and engine life is good. vibrations- well, RTR lovers are immune to it.

if you are an aggresive rider, and want a safe bike- go for RTR 180 ABS.

on the other hand there are other good options in 90K, like Karizma-R, 220, even P200NS if you add 5K to it.

**somen1984** · 08-30-2012, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by Ishwor View Post

Safety is my prime concern and mileage second
FZ: Have heard new fz has new carburator and lower torque so has increased mileage.How true is it.Will it provide 40+.I have used fz16 and it provides 30.
Has it got rim bending issue.

Dazzler:How is its handling and stability.I know it has good engine and better mileage

RTR: I am worried about its reliability and engine life.How about vibration.

I am a aggresive rider so i want most safe bike among all.you can advice me any other too but has to be under 90K.

As you have already ridden FZ in past so drop that model!!

Dazzler : A nice bike to have for daily commuting. Good Average with dual Disc and Honda reliability. Good ride and comfortable pillion seat.

Now comes RTR:

Why don't you think for RTR 180 ABS ??

RTR 180ABS has the best safety features that you are looking for ?? i.e A.B.S. which is a boon to you any given point, as you are an agreessive rider!! Brakes and handling of this bikes good and has good power too.
Mileage quoted by RTR180 ABS owners are >40kmpl.

So i guess this is the only bike that you are looking for.

If you are considering RTR 160 then it's better you go with Dazzler, due to little vibration. and rest aare same as RTR 180 apart from mileage and ABS.
RTR has good pickup in commuter segments !!
if mileage and ride is important then Dazzler
Else RTR 180 ABS!!!

BTW don't mind , what you mean by aggressive rider?? Do you keep racing on street or sometimes??

And which RTR are you pointing too ??

**111diablo111** · 08-30-2012, 07:52 PM

FZ - looks good,good handler,reliable,stable,low FE/power ratio,pillion seat is not so comfortable.

Dazzler - has very reliable engine,smooth ride,good FE,comfortable,boring design,not for aggressive riding as you mentioned.

RTR - great pickup as well as better top end,better suited for aggressive riding,handling is good,You can get ABS model for better safety as well,not so smooth like other two,for many people new look doesn't appeal as older one,not so comfortable for long rides in comparison,vibrations are only in certain rpm band but that's not much to be worried about(you might not even feel those vibes).

**vickul** · 08-30-2012, 08:37 PM

@ishwor,

as you have said you are a aggressive rider and safety is your prime condition,

so go for rtr 180 ABS....plain and simple...with abs you dont ever need to worry about locks and skids..of all the bikes rtr produces max power(17)bhp and max torque.dont worry,it is reliable ...but like every bike it has some drawbacks like stiff suspension and vibrations......looks are well

subjective...

fz and dazzler are equally good bikes ..but i feel rtr fits your bill

**Ishwor** · 09-01-2012, 09:09 AM

Had test ride of apache non abs

Thanks a lot for your help...all of you have suggested for rtr with abs so had made my mind for it.Today i had test ride of rtr 180 non abs.

It is an amazing performer.It handled nice and was really fast but at the same time it had vibration and wan't comfortable with inclined riding position.

Later i talked to the showroom person, he said vibration creep in only at certain rpm range.I dont know at what rpm i was riding but must have been riding at around 40-50 kmph.

I checked user reviews of this bike and there was written, you will feel presence of vibration around 45-60 kmph.How true is this?Is there any other way to manage vibration?

I usually ride in traffic at around 40-65 so i think i will have to tolerate vibtaion all the time.This is the only issue which is keeping me away from this beast.Need your suggestion guys.

**shahbaz63** · 09-01-2012, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by Ishwor View Post

Thanks a lot for your help...all of you have suggested for rtr with abs so had made my mind for it.Today i had test ride of rtr 180 non abs.

It is an amazing performer.It handled nice and was really fast but at the same time it had vibration and wan't comfortable with inclined riding position.

Later i talked to the showroom person, he said vibration creep in only at certain rpm range.I dont know at what rpm i was riding but must have been riding at around 40-50 kmph.

I checked user reviews of this bike and there was written, you will feel presence of vibration around 45-60 kmph.How true is this?Is there any other way to manage vibration?

I usually ride in traffic at around 40-65 so i think i will have to tolerate vibtaion all the time.This is the only issue which is keeping me away from this beast.Need your suggestion guys.

Frist Of All there are lots of pro's in bike then con's ...

I own RTR 180 ABS & the vibration kind a Thing is too hyped,

Vibration's are there without doubt but to be honest its neglible & after done 5.5 k yesterday changing to motul I can feel the vibration to almost zero... if you are riding at 4k rpm range then only you will feel it else there is no vibration & that 4k range vibration is also not much & you can Ride till 50kp/h without any issue any day, I get vibration at speed of around 50-60 that too only at top gear and its not continuous And proper gear shifting is the another thing which makes it zero sometime ... I Ride mostly at speed of 55kp/h and i never felt irking or irritating with vibration ....

I have done 5.5 k on Beast running on Motul Technosynthese and now its performing even more smoother post 60kp/h ....

**somen1984** · 09-01-2012, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Ishwor View Post

Thanks a lot for your help...all of you have suggested for rtr with abs so had made my mind for it.

a wise decision with ABS model!! Keep it up!!

Originally posted by Ishwor View Post

Today i had test ride of rtr 180 non abs.
It is an amazing performer.It handled nice and was really fast but at the same time it had vibration and wan't comfortable with inclined riding position.

Vibration are there but how much does it matters to you??
actually vibration would be experience only at highr range i.e >110kmph.

Low range vibration are negligible kind off. but don't you think you get a good pick up, good handling in that range with good top end ?? and the main ABS
there is one more model so called CBR ABS at >Rs 2L , So isn't it good to get an ABS with in 95k ??
Think wisely.

RTR has good average too as compare to other 180cc..

Go with req only!!
First think ?? which is important ?? Mileage or Power ??
Because this both things matters to different people in various ways!!

**sambit** · 09-01-2012, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by Ishwor View Post

Safety is my prime concern and mileage second
FZ: Have heard new fz has new carburator and lower torque so has increased mileage.How true is it.Will it provide 40+.I have used fz16 and it provides 30.
Has it got rim bending issue.

Dazzler:How is its handling and stability.I know it has good engine and better mileage

RTR: I am worried about its reliability and engine life.How about vibration.

I am a aggresive rider so i want most safe bike among all.you can advice me any other too but has to be under 90K.

FZ is any day the most Comfortable and the best looking bike on Indian roads now.
I dont understand your defination of "Aggresive rider". But if you are a traffic signal race type of person/speedster,choose RTR 180 ABS hands down here.
YES.........RTR has Vibration.But it would never be a concern when you enjoy ripping it.About reliability,well its definitely not like a Honda or Yamaha,just service regularly,it would never dissapoint you. I have completed 38K kms without any hassel.
FZ - if you are a sane rider,who needs superb comfort,descent Power and breathtaking LOOKS.
RTR ABS- if you are a speed freak and serious ripper(RX-100 type).

**Ishwor** · 09-02-2012, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

Safety -
Bye the way Apart From Safety & Mileage do tell us more about things like for what you will be using your bike ?

90% of the time i will be using my bike for city ride and uphill offroad.I like bulky looks so i have preferred fz.I am not top speed freak but love riding at around 70 zipzapping around intense traffic.Comfort and smoothness is what dragging me for fz.

**Ishwor** · 09-02-2012, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by sambit View Post

I dont understand your defination of "Aggresive rider".
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I am not an ultra high speed crusier.I usually love to ride 60+ but below 80 and this is in heavy traffic.I have pushed myself on some serious situation but luckily i havent met any serious accident.I keep zipzapping around heavy vehicles and move forward even through small space.

**somen1984** · 09-02-2012, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Ishwor View Post

90% of the time i will be using my bike for city ride and uphill offroad.I like bulky looks so i have preferred fz.I am not top speed freak but love riding at around 70 zipzapping around intense traffic.Comfort and smoothness is what dragging me for fz.

Excellent thought and decision if you are kind of 70-100kmph rider with comfort and looks!! Even on uphill, FZ would be more nice to ride as it has good ow end torque with super comfort which i guess is need on uphills. FZ is no doubt good for you!!

Originally posted by Ishwor View Post

I am not an ultra high speed crusier.I usually love to ride 60+ but below 80 and this is in heavy traffic.

FZ is nice for this, as well as RTR but comfort is with FZ!!

Originally posted by Ishwor View Post

I have pushed myself on some serious situation but luckily i havent met any serious accident.I keep zipzapping around heavy vehicles and move forward even through small space.

Improve here!! seriously!!

Else you won't be here next time to type or ask questions!! ...lol..

Only cats have 9 life to enjoy, sadly human have only 1

That too someone waiting at home to see us safe and in one piece!!

**shahbaz63** · 09-02-2012, 09:57 PM

OT: I Hate unnecessary zig zager ...

Ride Safe or Sit home

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