faired bikes are most affected by cross-winds.
but wind-blast are well tamed by fairings.

Very true but still with stability on road faired are the best!!
But what i am thinking, does this will affect NS200 or P220 so much than only above bikes are options, i think no!!

TS you should think for naked bikes too...GS150r is indeed a nice bike!!

With NS200 you get a good power/speed and mileage of 40kmpl+ Wht don't you think on ZMR ??

Honestly , Have you ever tried the highlighted bike for cross winds ???????

Yes i have and many times!! But let me tell you in mumbai i don't encounter cross winds which can blow me out, the affects of cross winds are INMO same for naked as well as Faired, little more to Faired. But Faired one is best in perdendicular winds!!

If you feel something different then please let me know!!

Be it perpendicular(or was there a word like Perpendicular cross winds, damm my memory) or Angled cross winds, fully faired bikes are always prone to instability to cross winds. It just obstructs the passage of air, so larger the fairing, more the obstruction, kinder garden basics. The And in this segment(read faired bikes) especially the ZMR loses by a huge margin against the other two.

Its the design aspect of the fairing that that makes a lot of difference. Being a enthusiastic R15 rider yourself, thought you would know the difference. in handling R15 and ZMR during cross winds. be it at sea level or 3000mts ASL, in Mumbai or Montana.

lol..
How much difference do you see in faired and non Faired bike with respect to cross wind??

If faired are effected the most then why naked bikes are not good for stable at higher speed?? Why for highways people are more tend to faired bikes?? in city no one gets the cross wind, it's on highway only

please explain??

There is nothing to "lol" about here. Firstly i am not referring to all faired bikes here. Sticking to ZMR alone because of the under-engineered fairing, unlike the R15(if the intensity of the cross wind is more no matter which faired bike you use, if will be more affected compared to nakeds). There is a mild difference felt "w.r.t crosswinds alone in naked and faired bikes" . It is because nakeds have small passages to let the wind pass through.

If you are referring to not able to do high speeds and being stable on a naked bike. its generally because the naked bikes are aerodynamically more efficient and also have a considerable up-right seating position compared to the faired ones, which in turn means more resistance to cut through the wind and the faired "R" series have a crouched position which make it easier to cut through the wind. This will also help in lowering the CG of the bike thus increasing the stability in faired bikes. Weight of the vehicle, wheel base etc are some more factors which affect the stability of a motorcycle.

Yep This is what i meant earlier too right that there is little difference!! ...lol..

Now R Vs ZMR, R series is way advance as compare to ZMR true!! But if you say ZMR is not at all good then my friend ZMR are used more in touring then R15.

R15 is very different from almost all bikes here, infact i think aerodynamic wise it's better than Ninja too.
Actually you are comparing R15/CBR with ZMR!! ZMR is little low compare to others. But it's nothing like that you say pointing out to ZMR.

Have you ridden ZMR ?? If you really think that ZMR is way out of the league as compare to others faired bike then, no comments. But fact is it's not!! ZMR is also same competent like other faired with little difference, and it's bigger than rest too with what price it comes!!

Well I want to buy the bike ASAP but I also want to make sure I make the right decision in choosing the bike and not regret it later.
Hence I will not rush into buying without few more TD's. Term end exams are right around the corner so finalizing will take more time as only sunday is holiday and I have to study as well.
Well I don't have a taste in naked bikes but I don't have any problem with them but pulsar I am not sure. ZMR too big,never rode it,actually no hero bike is on my list as of yet I don't like its bulkiness.
A friend of mine living in next building has GS I hope he will lend me his bike on sunday for some time so that I get real feel of the bike. And will again TD dazzler as well, as I can not decide in a single TD.
As I am the one who is looking for mileage bike and not my father [he really likes CBR] so confusion remains. My moped drinks almost 2ltr of petrol hence I am planning to reduce my expenses.

Reply in bold.

It's really shocking Phanikar that you rode ZMR for good amount of time and you say ZMR is effected more than other faired bikes!!...lol..

See Panikar, what made you think that ZMR is not good in cross winds, i don't know, but not only me many ZMR owners would accept that ZMR is no different from R15 or CBR in terms of cross winds!!

After this i don't have any thing to answer or question, Coz this getting into ZMR fight. If you feel ZMR is like that no matter, I feel something else.

Still cost wise it's good with Hero Tag, where as i would rate P220 anytime over and above ZMR!!

Shoots..........

I'd suggest that you take a test ride of the Discover 150 too. It has a comfy riding position, decent power & torque, mileage is 50+ kmpl and retails for approx. 59K on road in Pune. Delivery is immediate.

Cheers,
Vikram

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Buddy if a ns never smoked you doesn't meant it's a failure of machine,if you doubt ns, meet me in Delhi I will clear all your misconceptions, p220 is good in top end speed only because of fairing...have you ever done nit to sixty on a ns. .? I do everyday considering having a cbr150 and p220 in family...and trust me,I will choose to die on a ns then cbr or p220 while riding...

Being mech. engineer doesn't mean that I can take any tool and repair any machine...