ABS is not for speed but for situation.... Never matter you are at 100kmph or 40-50kmph, if you brake over some sands at edge of roads then you will surely disbalance and fall, Does Speed matters heres?? No! Because as soon as you brake over a sand your brakes will certainly jam the Rims leading to skid of tyres. This situation can be handled in ABS or you don't ride on sands !! I mostly don't ride on sand when i am overtaking. Because you don't know when you have to brake and if done than what can be resulted. The other situation is wet/oily surface, If it's wet then you can be saved by ABS almost 70-80% but if you are on oilly patch then you have chances of 10-20% of chances to safe else skid.

ABS helps every moment whenever it's needed. I surely think if we are paying Almostclose 1L then it should be ABS!

One question rattlehead- Why no ZMA R?

I'm not suggesting that this is THE bike under a lakh but trying to find out the reason behind its exclusion

personally didn't like the looks

Whichever bike you select, go for it next year i.e. January, 2013 as you won't need to explain the month of purchase as and when you sell it since the year of purchase matters at that time..

You posted your query on 29th of Sept and yesterday you replied you din't like the look !! ROFL .....

Are you really interested in buying or there was reason you din't came to see the thread ??

Anyways dude !!! It's your choice which bike you want!! all gae their suggestions...

The ABS used in CBR250 is way better than that in the RTR. When I first thought of getting a new ride, the RTR ABS was what I had in my mind, but I changed my mind as it doesn't have the power that I expected. Also I think that ABS is not that necessary for a ride like RTR. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use ABS at low speeds, but what I actually think is that for slow speed panic braking, simple presence of mind and apt braking technique would suffice. If you are not very confident that you would be able to panic-brake effectively without ABS, then you should go for the RTR. It depends on one's own personal choice.

Ansolutley Wrong!!!

ABS is not for only high speeds my friend!! And how can you judge that at what speed or in which product there should be an ABS ??

I have seen people falling and my self have falled from mere 40kmph, after braking on sand!!

And under panic braking it's your experience what matters, because you don't get time to think infact to react!!

and CBR 250 is prices 2.0L and RTR ABS priced @ 97K so i think RTR makes more sense to normal commuters than CBR!! CBR is not for city actually, it's us who are riding it in city!! The real world for CBR 250 is on highways and touring rather than 40-60kmph under city!!

CBR ABS and RTR ABS works on little different funda, but ABS is ABS which saves your locking tyres and falling down!!

Do you think RTR ABS or CBR ABS owers don't know to brake in situations but still they are opting ABS models, why ?? just Safety, Accident is not defined, it happens!!
So May be it a splendour or R1 there should be an ABS in all model as per my opinion, But we indians mostly won't prefer that becuase ABS will mark 50K Splendour to 75-80K with a 125c 0r 100cc.

I have seen my friends father age 55yrs falling in front of my site with no fault, just because people reproduce and leave it on road to play.!! That old man was at max 40-50kmph, due to panic braking bike skid!!

But still it's individual choice over mony and Self Safety!!

What I mean is that if your ride doesn't have an ABS, you should ride it like how its meant to be ridden (which means do not go over sands on high speeds, you know that you will skid if you brake suddenly). Situations lead to accidents, and if you don't have an ABS, you must avoid such situations where you will end up in an accident. Prevention is better than cure. I'm not saying that ABS is only meant for high speeds, you can ride at high speeds without ABS too, but braking without skidding at such speeds requires a lot of skill. Panic-braking at high speeds is different from the same done at slow speeds without ABS. I am confident that I can brake effectively on slow speeds suddenly, and I do. But at high speed, I am not so sure that's why I pick the ABS version of CBR. Like I said, it all depends on personal choice. Even if splendor is introduced with an ABS version, people won't buy if they don't feel the need for it.

No one can predict when he can be tasting the tarmac, whether, Where i had fall that road had only sand spread all over we all were doing 30-40kmph but suddenly a car came overtaking others and braked right in front of me, in that scenario even my gods wouldn't have imagine that a car will overtake at so crowded place and brake. result i was on ground with lot of handling and skidding, I din't fall because i braked but the person beside me fall over be because his passion slipped and slided at left side taking me down too....all exp and skill went in water!! But it was very small fall with left signal broken ...ROFL....

Yes Non ABS has to be veru careful!!

ABS or not, its all about the way you ride that determines what dangers you might be getting into and a motorbike being a motorbike is always at risk. The 200 NS is a pretty good bike in my personal opinion. Took a ride on it and was blown away by how much a bike under the lakh scale could perform. Sure having ABS is good, but if you are passionate biker you won't go wrong with the 200 NS. According to my friend the guy is getting 55kmpl from his 200 NS and when ever you need a pull just give the throttle a whirl and off you go! The bike looks way better than the RTR as well. There's no ABS on my bike, yet I've have ridden the bike to its limits, you just have to gradually pick up and stay under the limitations of your bike... Its mostly when you push the bike over that limit then things go horribly wrong.

abs or no abs first look into maintenance costs of both the bikes
also study the ownership threads for number of issues reported.
Drive sanely and any bike would be safe break hell then abs also wont save you

Not like that dude, due to circumstances i couldn't buy it back then,
going to book a 200NS in a week

I am going to book it with TR for Rs.500 and they said it will be valid for a month and then in Jan '13 I will get a permanent registration

NS200 is a good choice!!

For city commuting, you don't need 180-200 cc machines. If you want a mileage of ~40kmpl, and good city-riding experience, go for Tvs Apache160 or Yamaha Fz-s.

Pulsar 200 NS sure gives 40 - 45 kmpl in normal city riding.However if you prefer to ride it in its "rich" AFR, the mileage drops to 35kmpl.

NS gives BETTER tyres and roto petal discs than apache,but again....ABS is best for safety.
Bro...I've been in this same dilemma of choosing between a RTR and NS...
Trust me on this..There ain't no best bikes under 1 lac and all. Every bike has different temperament.Choose one which suits you.
And if your heart already fell for the NS,then no need to look back...you are not going to skid and fall at every tricky and greasy curves..(sure you may fall at some,if you are not carefull though ..).
My best friend broke his arm last month from his rtr ABS.He is one great idiot on the road at times.
My point is...NO ABS will save you if you get carried over with much adrenaline..(both NS & RTR does shoot your adrenaline always)

If you booked the NS...great !!you made Bang for the Buck. Drive safe and enjoy the power.
Don't think a 200cc is not required in city and all...there is adequate low end torque for normal city zapping.( AND BOOK IT SOON...I'VE THERE WILL BE A HIKE IN PRICE SOON)
Best wishes