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    Hi All,

    I am confused as to what should I buy. I would love to buy Ninja 300 but the cost is 4 lac ex showroom for 300 cc with no ABS. I cannot spend 2 lacs extra to get a 650.

    However I've seen ads in various classifieds about sports bike, common of them all is Hyosung 650GT for 3-4 lacs and Hayabusa 2010 make 18k kms done for 4.5 lacs.

    Shall I go for Ninja or look for a decent pre-owned sports bike? Or wait for future options?

    Kindly assist.

    Regards,
    Shrey

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      Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

      Originally posted by ShreySri View Post
      Hi All,

      I am confused as to what should I buy. I would love to buy Ninja 300 but the cost is 4 lac ex showroom for 300 cc with no ABS. I cannot spend 2 lacs extra to get a 650.

      However I've seen ads in various classifieds about sports bike, common of them all is Hyosung 650GT for 3-4 lacs and Hayabusa 2010 make 18k kms done for 4.5 lacs.

      Shall I go for Ninja or look for a decent pre-owned sports bike? Or wait for future options?

      Kindly assist.

      Regards,
      Shrey
      Firstly, just wait for little time bro, another one to two months, Bajaj is on their way this Diwali with a Pulsar 375, you can try that and that bike is almost 1.5 lacs or more/less in that price tag, if you are happy with that, you can buy for that bike. . . Now coming to your points, spending so much for a Ninja 300 is definitely a pain and I know it, so you can consider the Pulsar 375 as an option for you. . . A used Hayabusa at 4.5 lacs , take a look at this picture,

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      I hope it explains you all. . . So stay out of those motorcycles which they give out for cheap, cos almost many of those cheap Superbikes are grey, so it's a waste of money if you buy one. . .

      Can you just post the links here, so that we can see how the hell is that who is gonna give his Hayabusa for 4.5 lacs. . ? BTW why don't you try out if someone is going to sell his Ninja and buy that for a low price tag or else the best option as i stated above, wait for the Pulsar 375, if you feel it's good get that, also don't forget the pocket rocket, Duke 390, it's one helluva machine, just do a test ride of it, you'll be impressed. . . If you are going for either of my above said then you will have a clean motorcycle with papers and with the remaining money, you can buy yourself good riding gears and a better helmet. . . The choice is yours. . .

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        Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

        Originally posted by ShreySri View Post
        Hi All,

        I am confused as to what should I buy. I would love to buy Ninja 300 but the cost is 4 lac ex showroom for 300 cc with no ABS. I cannot spend 2 lacs extra to get a 650.

        However I've seen ads in various classifieds about sports bike, common of them all is Hyosung 650GT for 3-4 lacs and Hayabusa 2010 make 18k kms done for 4.5 lacs.

        Shall I go for Ninja or look for a decent pre-owned sports bike? Or wait for future options?

        Kindly assist.

        Regards,
        Shrey
        No offences to owners/brands, but if a 3 years old Busa if available for <8-9L, its a grey import. Stay away from <2013 model Hyosung bikes. GT650R 2013 has gotten some improvements in chrome in bolts and plastic in fairing panels.

        Hence, get a brand new N300 and enjoy.
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        • #5
          Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

          second hand bikes are a risk because you will have no idea how he(previous owner) has handled the bike, first few days all will seem to be good and then suddenly things go bad...and then u start cursing the bike and yourself for this decision.
          Buy a new ninja and sleep peacefully...
          If you cant afford ABS ninja go for some other bike with ABS in your budget if safety matters you the most.

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          • #6
            Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

            One of my acquaintances bought a used R1 last year. Within two months, he was pushing it around hopelessly - the bike just wouldn't start. Electricals were checked, battery replaced, even replaced the ECU but to no use. It just not recommended to buy used superbikes.

            You have not mentioned your riding preferences. Are you looking at faired bikes only? You can opt for the Duke 390 if ABS is a priority.

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            • #7
              Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

              If you got the money to spend, go with the Ninja 300, eyes closed. Its a very good machine, despite being priced at a hefty Rs. 4L. You will not regret it. I would not advise you to buy a used SBK that is being sold for 4.5L. I smell something very fishy about it.
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              • #8
                Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

                Yes, used SBKs are something to be wary of but still there are a few which are genuine and with good maintenance which can be bought for much much less than a new bike. You have to be willing to check out the deals carefully for originality and maintenance condition and check for spare availability. 4L for a new N300 is still reasonable provided you plan to keep it for long time and don't have to take a loan. Why don't you checkout the used N250, they will come for much less than a N300 but provide nearly the same fun.

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                • #9
                  Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

                  @ShreySri ........... take a look here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...yamaha-r1.html

                  then we can talk better

                  Warm Regards,
                  Pranav


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                  • #10
                    Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

                    Brother,

                    If you are not a very driven-by-brand kinda guy, i urge you to wait out a while till the new Pulsar 375 comes out. I assure you that its gonna level up to the Ninja 300 (if not beat it to the ground). The price will be half of what your gonna pay for the 300. Plus, if the leaks are true, you will get the ABS as standard.

                    A new beast is about to arrive, and its gonna eat the competition for breakfast.....

                    So wait out...

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                    • #11
                      Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

                      Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                      Bajaj is on their way this Diwali with a Pulsar 375
                      Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                      don't forget the pocket rocket, Duke 390
                      Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                      You can opt for the Duke 390 if ABS is a priority.
                      Originally posted by TBTS-350 View Post
                      i urge you to wait out a while till the new Pulsar 375 comes out. I assure you that its gonna level up to the Ninja 300 (if not beat it to the ground). The price will be half of what your gonna pay for the 300. Plus, if the leaks are true, you will get the ABS as standard.
                      I have a query to the guys whom I have quoted .............. Do you realize the difference between a single cylinder bike and a dual-cylinder bike ?? and I have another query to my fellow biker [MENTION=62372]TBTS-350[/MENTION] ............. Have you seen the the plots generated by a dynamometer for a similar displacement single cylinder and a dual cylinder engine configuration ? You should see them before you assure someone

                      Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                      One of my acquaintances bought a used R1 last year. Within two months, he was pushing it around hopelessly - the bike just wouldn't start. Electricals were checked, battery replaced, even replaced the ECU but to no use. It just not recommended to buy used superbikes
                      What you are saying is certainly correct in most of the cases but please read the thread that I have given in my last post in this thread. You will have some good idea.

                      Warm Regards,
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                      • #12
                        Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

                        Originally posted by xpranav View Post
                        I have a query to the guys whom I have quoted .............. Do you realize the difference between a single cylinder bike and a dual-cylinder bike ??
                        Excuse me, speaking about me. . ? If yes then firstly,

                        I ain't a guy who knows about everything about motorcycles but still I am a learner about biking and I do know something about the thing you mentioned above. . . Now,
                        1. What's wrong with opting for a Duke390 over a Ninja 300. . ?
                        2. Not everyone are rich guys to shell out 4 lacs for a 300cc Ninja, I know it's a better bike with almost no complaints but that doesn't sound right to be priced excessively. . . As the thread starter mentioned that he's too doubtful of spending so much for that, then we got to give him options right. . ?
                        3. Why not a Pulsar 375 again. . ? Ok let me just answer a bit over here, may be it doesn't have the thing that Ninja has, may be it isn't made by Kawasaki and may be it does not come with the kawasaki green, so what. . ? It does not stop it from competing it with the Pulsar 375. . .

                        KTM Duke 390 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 Shootout | MotorBeam – Indian Car Bike News & Reviews I have read this thread and think it's a good review. . .

                        Now coming to the main point, I know a two cylinder bike is always better over a single cylinder engine. . . Now if the rider is more of a city rider, then the Duke 390 is the best buy for him compared to Ninja. . . Don't forget the single cylinder CBR250R is almost equal to Ninja 250R in almost all the aspects, except the Ninja is a bit better in many places, that doesn't make the CBR250R a useless machine. . . Again if we go into this too much, then there is a lots of things to chat about, the Ninja 300 also has it's pros and cons, one of the cons which I have seen in many reviews, is the tires, they are not up to the mark and the lack of ABS even after paying so much, makes the buyer hesitant. . . So, according to me, I think it's a good decision if he opts for a Duke 390/Pulsar 375 or wait until the price of the Ninja and he can buy himself good gears and helmet with the remaining money he has or else, if he has the money, he can go for the Ninja 300, there's nothing wrong in choosing it. . . Hope that's enough said, any queries, please you can ask me. . .

                        Cheers!!!

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                        Additional: Or else if he has patience, he can wait until next year, by which time the RC390 is expected to be launched in India. . . I think errr let's see after it's launched and compared with the Ninja 300 and see who emerges out as a better bike. . .

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                        • #13
                          Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

                          Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                          Excuse me, speaking about me. . ? If yes then firstly,

                          I ain't a guy who knows about everything about motorcycles but still I am a learner about biking and I do know something about the thing you mentioned above. . . Now,
                          1. What's wrong with opting for a Duke390 over a Ninja 300. . ?
                          2. Not everyone are rich guys to shell out 4 lacs for a 300cc Ninja, I know it's a better bike with almost no complaints but that doesn't sound right to be priced excessively. . . As the thread starter mentioned that he's too doubtful of spending so much for that, then we got to give him options right. . ?
                          3. Why not a Pulsar 375 again. . ? Ok let me just answer a bit over here, may be it doesn't have the thing that Ninja has, may be it isn't made by Kawasaki and may be it does not come with the kawasaki green, so what. . ? It does not stop it from competing it with the Pulsar 375. . .

                          KTM Duke 390 vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 Shootout | MotorBeam – Indian Car Bike News & Reviews I have read this thread and think it's a good review. . .

                          Now coming to the main point, I know a two cylinder bike is always better over a single cylinder engine. . . Now if the rider is more of a city rider, then the Duke 390 is the best buy for him compared to Ninja. . . Don't forget the single cylinder CBR250R is almost equal to Ninja 250R in almost all the aspects, except the Ninja is a bit better in many places, that doesn't make the CBR250R a useless machine. . . Again if we go into this too much, then there is a lots of things to chat about, the Ninja 300 also has it's pros and cons, one of the cons which I have seen in many reviews, is the tires, they are not up to the mark and the lack of ABS even after paying so much, makes the buyer hesitant. . . So, according to me, I think it's a good decision if he opts for a Duke 390/Pulsar 375 or wait until the price of the Ninja and he can buy himself good gears and helmet with the remaining money he has or else, if he has the money, he can go for the Ninja 300, there's nothing wrong in choosing it. . . Hope that's enough said, any queries, please you can ask me. . .

                          Cheers!!!

                          ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                          Additional: Or else if he has patience, he can wait until next year, by which time the RC390 is expected to be launched in India. . . I think errr let's see after it's launched and compared with the Ninja 300 and see who emerges out as a better bike. . .

                          Cheers!!!
                          CBR 250 is almost equal to N250? Seriously? I do admit that CBR is one good machine in its own right, yes it does have a comfy ride than the N250, and better torque at low end, but cons far outweigh the pros. The CBR was made to be a sport tourer and it does that job very well(especially for the Indian market), but the Ninja 250 was a better machine overall. And regarding the comparisons going on between the Duke and Ninja, well Duke being lighter and more powerful will have the performance at par with the Ninja if not better in a short drag(even in the drag the Ninja was not even a second slower), but when it comes to top end, parallel twins are obviously better than singles. Regarding Pulsar vs Ninja well its entirely upto the buyer. If he has got the money to get a Ninja, I would advise him to do so, if he is not able to spend as much, he could settle with whatever options that befit him. I would pick a Ninja anyday over a Pulsar, but that is entirely my opinion. Same with a RC390(if it ever gets launched). I'm not a fanboy of Kawasaki. Its simply the better machine.
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                            Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

                            Originally posted by Ezilkannan View Post
                            CBR 250 is almost equal to N250? Seriously? I do admit that CBR is one good machine in its own right, yes it does have a comfy ride than the N250, and better torque at low end, but cons far outweigh the pros. The CBR was made to be a sport tourer and it does that job very well(especially for the Indian market), but the Ninja 250 was a better machine overall. And regarding the comparisons going on between the Duke and Ninja, well Duke being lighter and more powerful will have the performance at par with the Ninja if not better in a short drag(even in the drag the Ninja was not even a second slower), but when it comes to top end, parallel twins are obviously better than singles. Regarding Pulsar vs Ninja well its entirely upto the buyer. If he has got the money to get a Ninja, I would advise him to do so, if he is not able to spend as much, he could settle with whatever options that befit him. I would pick a Ninja anyday over a Pulsar, but that is entirely my opinion. Same with a RC390(if it ever gets launched). I'm not a fanboy of Kawasaki. Its simply the better machine.
                            You explained exactly the same way I spoke and I think that's enough said and I have also mentioned CBR250R is almost equal to Ninja250R but in more places, the Ninja has an upper hand. . . In short,
                            1. If you have the money to spend then go for a Ninja300, . .
                            2. The twin cylinders have an upper hand and as you mentioned mostly in top end can you help me out here by saying how many times do you achieve a top end daily or weekly. . ? Is your city so much free that you can ride the bike in the top end all the time. . ? Even if you ride it in top end all the time, is it good for the engine. . ? One example for the above said query of your's is CBR almost equal, here is the thing, it's a more practical bike than the Ninja 300. . .
                            3. Duke390 still seems a better buy for that price tag which cannot be resisted. . .
                            4. Pulsars, err I don't like them seriously from quite a long time but now I am starting like it not for their stupid same old looks but the new technology they are adapting and providing more for the buyers at a VFM tag, so the Pulsar 375 may or may not be a perfect bike like the Ninja but still it'll be a good bike and don't forget, every bike has it's set of pros and cons. . .
                            5. We are here to give our advice to the buyer and not fight as to which is the best bike, but give our personal reviews, . .

                            PS: Have I missed out anything. . ?

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                              Re: Ninja 300 or used sports bike? Too confused

                              Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                              Excuse me, speaking about me. . ? If yes then firstly,
                              Chill out dude .......... you seem a little stirred up

                              Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                              1. What's wrong with opting for a Duke390 over a Ninja 300. . ?
                              2. Not everyone are rich guys to shell out 4 lacs for a 300cc Ninja, I know it's a better bike with almost no complaints but that doesn't sound right to be priced excessively. . . As the thread starter mentioned that he's too doubtful of spending so much for that, then we got to give him options right. . ?
                              3. Why not a Pulsar 375 again. . ? Ok let me just answer a bit over here, may be it doesn't have the thing that Ninja has, may be it isn't made by Kawasaki and may be it does not come with the kawasaki green, so what. . ? It does not stop it from competing it with the Pulsar 375. . .
                              Did you see the plots of the dyno which I had requested you to see. If you have still not, then please see it again and humbly continue your learning.

                              The N300 is a track machine while the D390 is a street bike and P375 is expected to be a sports tourer. That means they all are from different culture of bikes. Check out their spec sheets and you will understand why a guy who can afford a dedicated race machine will never settle for a sports tourer or a street bike. The number of mods which can be availed in a N300 are more in number than the rest two mentioned. There is very serious attention to the quality in N300 because this bike is not meant for streets but it is a razor sharp cornering machine. The dynamics of a N300 has to be way better than a D390 or a P375 because of the purpose they are made for. You should read across the internet about the earnest status earned by the NINJA brand among the bikers world over.

                              Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                              I have read this thread and think it's a good review. . .
                              I don't find this review helpful. It seems like they had no bike of the same class to talk about so they took out two different machines to produce a review which serves little sense to an enthusiast. This review though may serve good to a rich youngster who has enough money but no experience.

                              Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                              Don't forget the single cylinder CBR250R is almost equal to Ninja 250R in almost all the aspects, except the Ninja is a bit better in many places, that doesn't make the CBR250R a useless machine. . .
                              If you can cross examine the spec sheet of CBR 250R and N250 you will realize my point. You should not pass a judgement by only looking at the displacement figure of an engine. Look into it, how that engine is generating the power and torque. And where did I say that a CBR 250R is useless !!

                              Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                              the Ninja 300 also has it's pros and cons, one of the cons which I have seen in many reviews, is the tires, they are not up to the mark and the lack of ABS even after paying so much, makes the buyer hesitant. . .
                              Now you are again missing a vision. A guy who thinks of buying a dedicated track machine will definitely tend to make further mods and aftermarkets in future to gain significant improvement as per his style of driving. If the tyres are not upto the mark they can be changed. N300 has many aftermarket options, so don't worry about it. ABS though is a very nice feature but not a necessary one. It can help you carry on with mistakes in braking pattern at times while without ABS you have to take the whole responsibility of your safety.

                              Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                              he can buy himself good gears and helmet with the remaining money he has
                              When a guy is preparing his earnest saving for a track machine he is anyday having an idea/budget to get some gears. I think we should not worry much about this aspect.

                              Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                              Or else if he has patience, he can wait until next year, by which time the RC390 is expected to be launched in India. . . I think errr let's see after it's launched and compared with the Ninja 300 and see who emerges out as a better bike. . .
                              It depends on person to person. Not everyone is ready to wait, because now almost every quarter we have some new machine around the market.

                              Warm Regards,
                              Pranav


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