Re: FZ vs Apache vs Pulsar

I am 6' and own an FZ. Lemme tell you my Experience.
I get a FE Of 45-50 on a regular basis. Just run-in the engine properly, dont go above 5K RPM till 500KM and 7K RPM till 1000KM(or 2 services). After 2nd service rip it up slowly increasing. Its great bike to flick and drive through traffic, but sometimes I wish the rear brake was a bit more powerful. Front disk is great.
Only CON I found is Service. Yamaha Service is a mixed bag, it is a PITA sometimes. So be ready to pressure servicing.

Other than this? I sugest you to go for 200NS if poss. My friend owns it and it is a great bike to ride, but in Traffic it is a bit difficult due to stiff ride quality.

Re: FZ vs Apache vs Pulsar

Bro what you are thinking is correct! If overtaking without dropping a gear and flickability is your concern then look no other than the RTR. The vibrations are negligible once u get used to the bike, the new model vibrations are so much lesser compared to the old ones. The only problem might be your height. The RTR is a compact motorcycle with an aggressive seating position; it might be a little uncomfortable for u. The stock tyres are good in dry conditions but they tend to give off a little easily on slippery surfaces.

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As far as handling is concerned, the RTR Series are one of the best handlers in their segments.

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You're obviously saying this because you own an Apache yourself, right? Do you think the vibes are that much of an issue? I ride my HH SuperSplendour to the absolute reds (90-95kmph) until it pleads for clemency unto a higher gear; the vibes are there but I've grown immune to the same. After I buy the RTR 180/160, I'm planning to change from those mediocre Srichakra tyres to maybe Michelin or MRF tyres. Your thoughts?

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VIBES are there and they aren't a new thing, but sad part about apache series is its a kickass vfm ruined by VIBES THAT START AT 45KM/HR and this I'm saying as I've taken TD of brand new apches (160,180) and result was same
Don't buy pulsar,they're still more common than a samsung mobile
If you're thinking of long term commitment and IF YOU DONT RIDE LIKE A RACER everytime(or like me, I'm used to redlining all time) go with fz.
But don't buy a pulsar 150,180.

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Better tyres are a MUST.I own an apache,the vibes are present even in perfectly healthy apache,but still fine,not a deal breaker.I played with sprockets until I manage to get the vibes out of my normal commuting speed range..ie 60-70 kmph.Even with tall gearing than stock the low end torque is surprising at times.You being a tall guy 200 ns would be a better option if you can stretch the budget.Note that vibes are directly proportional to the health of RTR.

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I guess I'll have to learn to live with the vibes. The RTR looks like a very good motorcycle on paper with the fuel capacity and efficiency even for someone like me who loves hitting the reds not to mention the power and the zippyness. I'll go for a test ride and gauge the seriousness of the pulsations. If its not all that bad, I'll just go ahead and buy it.

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Hey there, I have been riding The RTR 180 for past two years and I had brought the Bike for very same reasons You mentioned, and I don't regret getting the Bike at all. Even I'm 6feet tall and it causes Me no issue while riding, and I have done riding both in cities and highways. There are some vibrations in 4k to 5.5k rpm range, but You wouldn't be in it most of the Times once You finish the run in, so not an issue there. Also since You are going to switch to other tires soon, even the tire problem is solved! And plus if You maintain same Service Center for Yours Bike services, the people there take good care of Your Bike. So on My experience, I would definitely recommend You going for The RTR 180. If You have fixed Your mind on it, go get it!!

Re: FZ vs Apache vs Pulsar

Hahahaa.. well not just because I own one but it's a fact If thats tge way u ride then the vibes will be negligible as it will be more or less the same like your HH The vibes are a part of the RTR; you will learn to rev through it! Regarding the tyres, that will be a good decision. The R15 V2 tyres will add even more fun and confidence to the handling of the bike. I am currently running on front MRF Fx 100/80 17" and rear MRF Zapper Q 120/80 17" (I do get mixed up with the tyre specs sometimes..). Though different set/grooves of tyres, they do perform well on road but i suggest u go for a same set/groove of tyres.

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I was in the same dilemma (RTR 180 / FZs) b4 i finally decided & booked RTR last week. I suggest you to take TR of both the bikes first & chose urself as which bike suits u more as u r tall. I m 5'9 & was also considering P200 ns but after TR i felt RTR much more suited to me as a city rider. I felt that excitement, control along with roaring sound only in RTR.

I will be getting my bike on 15th or 16th this week and will be changing to MRF as soon as i get it from showroom.

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I own the RTR(a 180cc ABS) And I have to disagree with the bolded statements above. They have been around for a very long time and surprisingly the after sales service is pretty crappy. I suggest you go there for the free services and vamoos after that to a local guy who knows how to actually service a bike. I CANT STRESS ENOUGH ON THIS. As far as spares are concerned, the everyday parts are pretty easy to source( The clutch wire, brake lever, mirrors, etc). A lot of the other part take from forever to never to arrive at the service place. So if you are going for the RTR be ready to experience a little discomfort here.

Again, disagree. What ruins the kickass VFM of the RTR series is the after sales service. Something like the vibes should not bother a buyer. For city riding the vibes dont even matter. On long rides/tours you will not be bothered much. Maybe after the ride your hands will feel a little spongy. Apart from that, take care of her(regular service - EVEN IF ITS THE CRAPPY TVS SERVICE, oil change, a little attention from you like you would lavish on your girlfriend, stuff like that :P ) and she will love you back.
The RTR is a racy bike, but I dont see how that should affect you much. You can ride mellow on the RTR too. I do that a lot of the time(especially with a lady on the pillion ). Being an owner I assure you, you don't have to ride it like a racer. You can ride it like an uncle too. [MENTION=65015]Anuj_Gupta[/MENTION] bro I dont mean to say you are wrong. I'm just speaking from experience on the RTR.

Completely agree with @albyjose here. CHANGE THE TYRES AS SOON AS YOU CAN AFFORD TO. I think a 13t sprocket will help reduce vibes a little and give better top end performance, but the bike will loose out on acceleration if I'm not wrong. Over taking will take gear shifts if you change the sprocket.

Congratulations @vik143.
@TS 100% recommend you do what the bold part says. In spite of the after sales service, the RTR is one of the best bikes around. I suggest you learn small things like clutch freeplay adjustment, carb tuning, air filter cleaning, if possible carb cleaning, oiling your chain and anything else you think you can do. These are really helpful for an RTR owner. The RTR is an amazing handler and has a very peppy engine that is also a bulletproof one - it will run till the moon. One of the most fun bikes I've ridden. Of course its no meanie like the duke or the 200ns, but it will keep you happy. I assure you that. IMHO an FZ doesn't even compare. But that's only my opinion. :P The pulsar is a good machine, but I didnt like it. Hope you buy the RTR.