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Did anyone consider Suzuki slingshot. .it comes around 64k on road. . . low maintaince . .nice good engine with 60+ mileage . . I own one. .
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1. It's out of my budget
2. I don't like the look.
If I have money I would either go for Phoenix or SS125.

Thanks for mentioning that article. First I thought that's user id and searching here in this forum. Later I googled and found his blog.

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Visited other showroom of Bajaj to try if 100M is any different than 125M.

100M - Test ride

Showroom is pathetic. The look of the showroom itself make the customer stay away from Bajaj. This time there is no dangling temporary fuel can. Didn't fumble like I did previous day. Kinda felt something heavy in the front. I am not sure it's handlebar or just illusion of big fuel tank design, I don't know.

I am not sure whether this 100M/125M is good, worthy to buy or not. Going by your suggestion I think it's better to strike off Bajaj bikes from the my list.

I am waving Bajaj "goodbye" as I wipe a tear

Went to Honda showroom to enquire about Neo as the Yuga's price is much higher. But this time sales rep is not as enthusiastic as the day before. Said, it's not that good when comparing with Yuga and roughly said onroad price - 56k which I think including all the optional accessories. I didn't want to ask any more and left the showroom thinking I should check with other dealers about the price and the availability of other variants too within the model.

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Ci bullets has good resale value due to its thump and right side gear shift.btw

Neo is also good because i have done a lot of search and at the last time i have 3bikes in my list 1.splendor,2.neo,3.tvs starcity 110+,4.bajaj disciver 150f due to the fairing


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[MENTION=72451]gan[/MENTION] , Mahindra is giving 5000 cash back, Go and grab the deal. Centuro is very popular bike nowdays.
have not driven but people say it has very good features.

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A company only use these tactics when his product is not selling, yeah features are fine but what about the engine, which is neither refined nor as smooth as Honda or Hero.

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1. I am not considering Mahindra.
2. Dealer is located other side of the city. To service the bike, I have to travel one of my longest distance I have ever done on a two wheeler and that too has to be done every two months. Definitely, I am not going.

But sure that 5000 cash back looks awesome along with the loads and loads of features.

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Went to other Honda showroom to see if I can get different variants.

They said all the variants can be booked. It seems like manufacturer makes more of self/alloy version than other variants so the reason all the dealers have ready stock of self variant and wants to clear the stock. So they are saying NO to kick variant if someone asks for it.

They have to place an order and waiting period is 2 to 4 weeks.

Neo - Test ride

This is the first one where they have a dedicated demo vehicle. None of the five dealers I tried for the past few days had a demo vehicle. This demo vehicle is little old. Engine is not as smooth as the new ones (Yuga, City+, Phoenix) and the handlebar was little heavy. I didn't get to go top gear (in fact didn't even get to ride in 3rd gear for 50m) as I was allowed to test ride only in the residential streets.

My test ride experience of Neo is not good. I am not sure whether it's because of old vehicle or this is how the Neo performs, I don't know. I gave my feedback, the mechanic said Neo is an excellent vehicle much better than Yuga (it's the exact opposite of what I was told in the other Honda dealer) and have better resale value. Already, I don't like the design, graphics. At least, I thought I could get white colour, but seems like they don't have one.

Should I strike off Neo from my list or should I give it another try?

Note: Official website says Neo's engine is the same one we can find in Yuga, while 2 or 3 third party sites says it's different tuned down version of Yuga's. I am not sure which one is right.

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All of these three bikes from honda Twister, Yuga, and neo have same 110cc engine, the difference is between the state of tune, 3rd parties are correct neo is slightly detuned version of Yuga to give you better mileage, why not have a look at passion xpro it's the engine is just straight lift from Yuga but a bit of more power and torque.

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I was crossing Suzuki showroom, thought of checking if they can offer something good.

Hayate - Test ride

I asked for Hayate to test ride. No waiting, right away we went for test ride. All the 7 bikes I tested before are back-gear pattern, but this is all front. Throughout the test ride I was wrongly shifting gears. Even after I was told it's front, even after did that mistake more than once, I couldn't stop it. I was doing it again and again. As the showroom was in the heart of the city, there was so much traffic. So no top gear and so many wrong shifts. 2nd gear was the top most I could go. Hayate engine is as refined as the others (City+, Phoenix, Yuga).

This is equally as ugly as City+, may me tad bit more . No trip meter, pass light, just a basic instrument cluster. The only good thing is that they are giving 4k discount on onroad price. That's one helluva deal. Would I take that offer? I don't know. I am not sure about ASS of Suzuki and I haven't read many or any reviews about this bike. Just out of curiosity I entered Suzuki showroom and they have offered something good.

YBR 110 - Test ride

Finally, didn't want to leave YBR110 untested. I don't think I would go for this bike as I didn't find it impressive. Not many or any review I found online. Tube tyres, basic instrument cluster, heavy, not looking good, comparatively lowest mileage in this category. If it surprise me as Suzuki did, will see...

Sales rep recognized me from last week visit. There was not enough petrol, I was asked to ride with choke on. Again allowed to try in streets only, not in the main road. All the time there was someone riding with me (sales rep/mechanic), but with Yamaha he said I can go alone. Engine turned off several times within 100m ride. There is no battery is fitted, so I had to kick start every time. Since this is residential streets there is so many speed breaker, the max I could go is 2nd gear. And at one point there is some a sound kinda popping/cracking sound. I didn't know from where it came from. I was in little doubt and asked the people in the road side if that sound is coming from the bike. You should have seen my face. I am alone, nobody came with me. What if they blame me for something and something in the bike gone kaput. Checking the tyre if it's punctured or something and managed to ride slowly back to the showroom. When I was riding back to the showroom, I heard that similar sound two more times. I told the showroom person what happened and the bike is not in condition. I was only relieved after they said that the sound is came from the exhaust. The sound was like the pressure release from bus/lorry and all. The reason nobody came with me was there was not enough air pressure in tyre.

For few minutes I was thinking that I did something wrong. I was asked to test ride in their main branch, where they have bikes in good condition. I don't think I would go again to test YBR.

I have tested all the models I wanted to test. Now I have to narrow down the models further and pick one among them. I asked my friends if anyone they know have the models (the ones I have narrowed down). Seems like nobody having one. Just Splendor, Pulsar, Unicorn, Passion, Wego. If I can get my hands on with the bikes I have narrowed down from my friends, I will try it before finalizing.

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If I am right (I don't have official quotation), X pro drum variant costs little more than Phoenix (at least it would cost as much as Phoenix). You think picking Yuga/X pro over Phoenix for the same price is a good deal?

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Leave Ybr 110 no need to even give a look at this bike, on the phoenix front i don't know what's the exact price of the bike, not many phoenis bikes are visible on the road plus Tvs has also got this spares and ASC problem which you wont have with Hero ,CC is not the only thing, there are lots of other factors which should be equally considered while going for a vehicle.

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You mean to say, TVS is not good at after sales? or is it just with Phoenix?
Because, this is something I give more weightage. I don't want to end up green and big...

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Yes that's what i have heard from some people who have own Tvs, may be you might not have this problem as this company is based in south india, but out here in Delhi, we do have spares problems, recently one of my neighbour has brought phoenix, although the bike is good but he is struggling to get spares, and even the ASC guys are saying that parts delievery is quite slow and low but that's common with Tvs was there verdict.

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These are the models I have narrowed down. Could use some opinions/suggestions esp. if my choice is not good/right.

City+ - Pretty much everything is fine with this bike but the look (I guess I have to over"look" that part now).
Price - 52500 (Self)

I am kinda leaning towards City+. It would be good at least if they have some nice colour choice. Like white, Yellow...
The next higher model is Phoenix which have a white colour and looks awesome. The next lower model is Sport, even that sports a white colour. Why not City+?

Something like this in matte finish would be good. I know I am day dreaming.




Hayate - Sole reason for considering Hayate is that they are offering discount of 4k. Is it fine? Should I feel skeptical about this discount? I am not sure about this bike, but still adding it in this list.
Price - 50000 - after discount (Self)

Neo - My test ride experience wasn't good. I am not sure if I have to give it another try or strike off from my list.
Price - 55000 (Self)

Yuga - Costs close to Phoenix. First it's little more than my budget. Even if I could collect that extra money from someone, I think it's wise to go for Phoenix than Yuga. What do you guys say?
Price - 59000 (Self)

Phoenix - If I can get some more money, I would go for this one. I have no idea or plan to save money and go for Phoenix after few months. I am not going to delay the purchase unless there is an offer just around the corner or there is going to be a new bike launch which will be competitively priced (of course it should be in my budget).
Price - 60000 (Drum)

Let's say, if I can borrow 10k and extend my budget to 60k, which would be a wiser/worthy choice - Phoenix (drum) or Yuga? (less likely to happens, but still... what would be your choice and the reason behind it).

I would like to know who is good at after sales service in these three manufacturers. Among these three, I am not sure about Suzuki's ASS. I assume Honda should be good as they are showing lot of volume. With TVS, I have first hand experience, and it's good I would say or at least neutral. Though I would like to hear from you about TVS esp, if you feel/think otherwise.

TVS
Honda
Suzuki

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In after sale service honda is poorest, suzuki has just wake up from hybernation so i hope they will fast forward this service centre issue, if you feel that Tvs has got good service network and good mechanics then there is no reason not to go for phoenix.

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Honda after sales service is as bad as good their bikes are(well, not all of them). TVS before sales service is good .. not sure about their after sales service. Suzuki should be better than these two.

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Yes, even I have heard a lot of negative about Honda service center, my friend's Trigger has issues and they don't even listen, as a result he is continuing to use as it is.
My personal experience with TVS: They do listen to your problem and act upon it, but they lack experience and knowledge. Customer care acts quick to your responses and queries.
No idea about Suzuki, but my friends who have Swish and Access never complained about anything.