I dont understand why people talk about top speed every time even though they very well know they cannot ride a bike at 140 kmph on our great Indian roads.

+1 for that.
If you are not planning to be a stiff competition to MM or VR, it's very unlikely that you need that level of speed very often. Tour @ excess speed of 100-110 and you defeat the very purpose of touring. Also, almost all the bikes would reach their peak at that speed and it'd be near impossible for those bikes to stop suddenly. NS/Apache 180/Duke200/Karizma all fall in this bracket.
Keeping all this in mind, you can opt for any one between the Karizma twins. Ans it seems you already now how good they are. Outright power can't be the only criteria for selecting a bike. It's only one of the criteria along with many other aspects.

1: FI is and will be always a critera for selecting a bike because of reasons which have high impact on a bike's performance. You may seek power but there are people who have a desire for mileage.
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I dont understand why people talk about top speed every time even though they very well know they cannot ride a bike at 140 kmph on our great Indian roads.. speaking about top speed, the speeds indicated on the ZMR is almost error free.. the FI is the greatest advantage.. take a carb'd bike to freezing temperatures.. let it rest there for an hour and try to start the bike.. you will know the difference..

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+1 for that.
Keeping all this in mind, you can opt for any one between the Karizma twins. And it seems you already now how good they are. Outright power can't be the only criteria for selecting a bike. It's only one of the criteria along with many other aspects.

+1 to your post..

Top speed in India is a criteria for school kids and college going kids. A humble biker would never consider the top speed as the main criteria unless he/she is going to participate in a bike race. Even then top speed wont be a criteria at all times.. even the fastest bike has never beaten the fastest rider.. there are so many other criterias even for racing in tracks and people cry over top speed on public roads.
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1: FI is and will be always a critera for selecting a bike because of reasons which have high impact on a bike's performance. You may seek power but there are people who have a desire for mileage.
It's got crisp throttle response.
Increases reliability by a huge margin. Why? It adjusts the afr such that it is suitable for the engine.
No cold start problems. No nuisance.
Of all the debates I've seen, its always the FI that is prefered. Why else would companies prefer going FI over carb, though it means increase in costs? Of not now, then, going by the trends, within few years, almost all bikes may have fi. That's the situation with cars rite now.
FI is not the only criteria fine. But its advantages cannot be ignored either. If there are criteras for selecting a bike, then, for me, FI comes first..
2: The new karizma doesn't "die" after 115. Had you made that statement in the ownership thread, you would have got replies worth suiting your statement. Hold on. Is that difference in top end even worth a thought for selecting a bike? Tell me. Do you go racing at triple digits when you are commuting or touring? You need good torque for commuting which the karizma has ample of. You need reliability to do 110 for long hours which the karizma has proved and so have many other. But, do you go at 130-140 on indian roads when you are touring? Top speed has to be a criteria for racers. For what the TS has mentioned, i think that's an absolute bullshit critera to talk about. You need touring, talk of comfort and reliability to do 100-110 for long hours. Not freaking top speeds!
3: Agree to that point. Since it is subjective, i felt zmr was better looking than duke or karizma and told the same...

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Have you got your hands on the new zmr? Also I dont mind compromising on looks.

Hi Everyone,

I am little bit confused over here. Not sure which bike will full-fill my needs.

My budget - 80,000 - 1,50,000.
Age 24 Weight 64kg
Intended Usage - Office commute sometimes , Highway runs and Long rides
Fuel Effeciency requirement - Respectable Fuel Efficiency
Approximate Monthly running - More then 300 kms on average plus the tours and long rides !
City - Mumbai

My requirements are in the following order

1 Comfortable to ride for a tall guy and good sitting position
2 Power when I need it
3 Refined engine
4 Good braking

Bike that I own - RX100(28 years old and still running)I really cant ride it everyday on take it for long tours. Now I am looking to buy a bike that suits my power needs and comfort. I have used my friends Karizma - R for 2 years and I really loved riding it everyday every time.

My questions

1) I wished to continue with Karizma and wanted to buy a classic like Karizma R but now the old version is no longer available and I am not sure if the new version really that good!
2) KTM duke seems like a mix of both power and comfort but I doubt if it would be comfortable for a tall guy like me.
3) Karizma ZMR, Cbr 150 and 200Ns are also under my radar. I had the opportunity to ride zmr and cbr 150 and I liked both.
4) I love all Yamaha bikes specially street fighters but yamaha fz is a little short for me and maybe I wont be that comfortable riding in traffic.

I dont want a cruiser so Royal Enfield's are out of option. Also, I don't prefer bikes with aggressive frame! Yamaha R15 would be a no for the same reason.

PS- I think need a mix of Karizma and Rx

Your suggestions will be really appreciated.

I have narrowed down my options to Fazer , Karizma and 200ns

I have narrowed down my options to Fazer , Karizma and 200ns