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  • #16
    Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

    Let's clear couple of things...

    Engine in 150AS is not the scaled down version of the 200NS/AS. We all know that 200NS/AS is liquid cooled while the 150AS is air cooled. Second, engine in 150AS is twin spark unlike the 200NS which is a triple spark.. the engine architecture in both motorcycles is completely different. They are hardly related. Only similarity on paper is that both are 4 valve.

    It is likely that the 150AS engine is the bored out version of the pulsar 135 which is also a 4 valve air cooled engine.
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    • #17
      Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

      Yes same here.. I will take a test ride of AS150 and decide.

      Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post
      Why not the AS150.

      Has power as much as the R15.

      Triple spark tech should return 50+ kmpl.

      Pillion seat is decent.
      The bike is pretty well handling.

      Take a Test Ride.

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      • #18
        Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

        Oh! Well then As200 it should be.
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        • #19
          Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

          yes Anand,

          I like gixxer as well as pulsar new series AS 150 /200.
          Well its a huge amount of 1 Lakh for both bike, It is better to check out all the option for a good reliable bike then to regret latter.
          I am delighted that xBHPian are helping me to choose a good bike and giving wise advice. Thanks all!

          Not sure what my test ride was less comfortable with AS200 while gixxer SF is only 7 kg less then AS 200, So we cant say waight is the issue. Might be something else like seat and handle bar not sure.

          As I am not in hurry, I will wait for AS150 and take couple of test ride then decide .

          Originally posted by anand roy View Post
          Hi Sachin,
          I honestly think you lost your heart out to gixxer already. It may just be just to console the inner soul that you checked all the options.
          Jokes apart, I think there will hardly be any marginal difference in weight between the as 200 and 150. However best bet will be to wait it out a few more days and see the bike out front and then chose.
          Regards,

          ride safe
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          If the engine on AS150 is new, then it will have same issue in the initial batches of AS150 which was the case with NS200 ?
          because I have heard that NS200 initial batches have major issue, latter get resolved.

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          • #20
            Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

            Originally posted by Sachin_786 View Post
            yes Anand,

            I like gixxer as well as pulsar new series AS 150 /200.
            Well its a huge amount of 1 Lakh for both bike, It is better to check out all the option for a good reliable bike then to regret latter.
            I am delighted that xBHPian are helping me to choose a good bike and giving wise advice. Thanks all!

            Not sure what my test ride was less comfortable with AS200 while gixxer SF is only 7 kg less then AS 200, So we cant say waight is the issue. Might be something else like seat and handle bar not sure.

            As I am not in hurry, I will wait for AS150 and take couple of test ride then decide .



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            If the engine on AS150 is new, then it will have same issue in the initial batches of AS150 which was the case with NS200 ?
            because I have heard that NS200 initial batches have major issue, latter get resolved.
            Hi Sachin
            Precisely, an amount should give you an optimum utilization. If it doesn't then no point spending it in a bike. Hence take all the time you can to decide the best for you.
            A personal story where I set my minds at rtr160 for about 4 months and it took just one test ride and few good reviews and immense self thought to finalize my present bike "Fzs". I still treasure the day I saw it and rode it for the first time.
            Long point short - take your time and do test ride the as150, do a cross comparison again- shortlist your needs and requirements. Select.
            Xbhp has been a soul saver for many including me. I'll stay in dept of it for time immemorial because of all that iv learnt here.

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            • #21
              Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar 150 AS

              Hey Folks,
              I m planning to buy my first bike at the range of 1 lakh.
              And after all my googling i came upto 2 options Pulsar 150 AS & Gixxer SF.
              But i am highly confused which one to choose.
              Both the bikes are great as far as i know.
              My priorities are milage n low maintainance plus occassionly i might trip so shouldn't be a nightmare to my bums and back.
              Thanks

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              • #22
                Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

                I really want to know which bike i should go for.
                Gixxer SF or Pulsar 150 AS
                Both bikes are great but i m more inclined towards SF looks specially in black.
                My priorities are milage and long drive comfort plus i m really having a hard time to decide which one should i go for

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                • #23
                  Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

                  Originally posted by tananrules View Post
                  I really want to know which bike i should go for.
                  Gixxer SF or Pulsar 150 AS
                  Both bikes are great but i m more inclined towards SF looks specially in black.
                  My priorities are milage and long drive comfort plus i m really having a hard time to decide which one should i go for
                  I would say that go with Suzuki.....

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                  • #24
                    Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

                    For looks (as you said) go SF.
                    For everything else go AS!
                    Regardless, Life shall go on.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

                      Hello friends.
                      I am looking for a new bike too. I am from Panaji, Goa. I am 5'9", 78 kg and my riding is 95% in city but not in b to b traffic. I plan to go for long weekend rides once I get a new bike. I am using RTR 160 at present and planning to change due to some issues that i faced in first year of ownership itself. No issues with engine performance or vibrations but too much of rusting withing first few months. I need a bike that looks good and can cruise at 80-90 kmph at ease for decent time.

                      I wanted to go for ABS version of Apache but I fear that RTR 180 may also have same rusting issue. Next Bike with ABS is CBR250, out of my budget. RS200 by Bajaj has single wheel ABS but I am yet to lock front wheel of my RTR 160 despite trying hard. Rear locks very easily. So i am not sure how useful single wheel ABS is + I do not like looks of the fairing of RS 200.

                      I did test ride of Pulsar 200 AS today. I did not like it at all. My RTR has lesser vibrations than AS 200 (surprising but true, may be the brand new bike that they gave for so called test ride had that issue. I asked them to give me a used bike for test ride but they did not have one). Besides vibrations, the bike felt quite heavy. Did not like exhaust note either, may be because I am used to RTR note.

                      Went to Suzuki showroom . I saw it for first time in flesh and I was immediately in awe of the looks. Initially They straightway refused test ride of Gixxe or r SF I spoke to the showroom in charge for 2 minutes and finally he agreed. But he did not give me SF. He gave me Gixxer. It was a short 2 KM ride but it made me happy. Realised vibes of my Apache after riding that bike. It was accelerating well. Exhaust note is sweet too. One thing was very clear, Apache has far better bite in front brake (my RTR has rear disc, so won't compare it to SF)

                      I have done test ride on new ZMR. I am fine with the looks but I have read too many problems about this version and the test ride bike was vibrating a lot more than Apache.

                      I thought of R15 too but pillion seat is as good as non existent. 95% of my riding is solo but still remaining 5% matters. Aggressive posture of R15 was never an issue because I have been an avid road biker (bicycles) where the hands are positioned about 2-3 inches below saddle level. So R15, with handle grips at level of saddle would not have been an issue. Did not get test ride.

                      I do not like Duke200.

                      I have not given any thought to Honda.

                      So I am almost sold out on Gixxer SF . Can you please let me know if the fairing of SF vibrates a lot or no? I rode Gixxer and it was silent.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

                        Originally posted by Jaudere View Post
                        1. I wanted to go for ABS version of Apache but I fear that RTR 180 may also have same rusting issue.
                        2. Next Bike with ABS is CBR250, out of my budget.
                        3. RS200 by Bajaj has single wheel ABS but I am yet to lock front wheel of my RTR 160 despite trying hard. Rear locks very easily. So i am not sure how useful single wheel ABS is + I do not like looks of the fairing of RS 200.
                        4. I did test ride of Pulsar 200 AS today. I did not like it at all. My RTR has lesser vibrations than AS 200 (surprising but true, may be the brand new bike that they gave for so called test ride had that issue. I asked them to give me a used bike for test ride but they did not have one). Besides vibrations, the bike felt quite heavy. Did not like exhaust note either, may be because I am used to RTR note.
                        5. Went to Suzuki showroom . I saw it for first time in flesh and I was immediately in awe of the looks. Initially They straightway refused test ride of Gixxe or r SF I spoke to the showroom in charge for 2 minutes and finally he agreed. But he did not give me SF. He gave me Gixxer. It was a short 2 KM ride but it made me happy. Realised vibes of my Apache after riding that bike. It was accelerating well. Exhaust note is sweet too. One thing was very clear, Apache has far better bite in front brake (my RTR has rear disc, so won't compare it to SF)
                        6. I have done test ride on new ZMR. I am fine with the looks but I have read too many problems about this version and the test ride bike was vibrating a lot more than Apache.
                        7. I thought of R15 too but pillion seat is as good as non existent. 95% of my riding is solo but still remaining 5% matters. Aggressive posture of R15 was never an issue because I have been an avid road biker (bicycles) where the hands are positioned about 2-3 inches below saddle level. So R15, with handle grips at level of saddle would not have been an issue. Did not get test ride.
                        8. I do not like Duke200.
                        9. I have not given any thought to Honda.

                        So I am almost sold out on Gixxer SF . Can you please let me know if the fairing of SF vibrates a lot or no? I rode Gixxer and it was silent.
                        Above points reflect my opinions too.. I am just confused which way to go. I own a suzuki GS150R and wanted to upgrade to a powerful bike (this means no gixxer).. After having gotten used to the silence and excellent ride quality of a suzuki, bajaj is out of the equation (they are trying hard but yet to reach there). Honda cbr250r - i hear that the production is stopped - so no and delay for spares - support for issues. Duke 200 - its taller seat (am 5' 5'') and added maintenance and expense.. No to REs too (not my taste ) .. R15 really good bike but hope it had good pillion seats..

                        I am just looking for a powerful commuter (>=200cc) & occasional tourer and IMHO there is a huge vacuum in 1-3L price range for such bikes in india.. Sorry guys if you think that indian motorists have lot of options in this segment today. I feel that's not the case.. every bike in this price range is marketed (but most are not) as a racing bike ... Aren't there enough motorists who have needs similar to mine or these companies do not understand the market well?

                        Inazuma was a close fit to my requirements (no ABS but its okay) but its my bad luck the bike wasnt priced/marketed well.. If suzuki promises me availability of spares and service support I will just buy it for the price sold - really frustrated with the options I have !

                        Looks like I have to adjust to negatives that each motorcycle available in this price range comes with OR for pay more for the CKD products...

                        Why I am looking for powerful commuter in INDIA?? - 150cc bikes I feel aren't designed to be ripped at 100kmph even occasionally. I am sure they will create issues sooner or later.. Why stress the engine and reduce its life while 200-250cc motorcycles can do that with ease? Every company here in India wants to be a mass market guy else kill the product or price it really high! This seems to be the strategy..
                        Last edited by blitzz577; 05-26-2015, 01:38 AM. Reason: more info added

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                        • #27
                          Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

                          With so little in their hands ,people always desire so much more..

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                          • #28
                            Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

                            If someone can tell me sureshot way to avoid/slow down rusting in Apache, I would surely go for RTR 180 ABS. I used Caliber 110 for 12 years and needed to change spokes once and front shock absorbers twice due to rust (I stay just 1.5km from sea shore, so that much rusting i think i ok over 12 years). My RTR 160 rusted badly in 6 months. TVS responded well and changed all rusted parts , which include......... the frame itself , front + rear brake discs, front shock absorbers and few smaller parts. I am happy with bike performance and TVS response but still that does not make up for rusting at such a high rate.

                            I did try karizma ZMR and CBR150. Karizma is out due to pillion seat which is as good (as bad) as R15 now. I would rather buy R15 if at all I have to. CBR150 low end torque is teh issue as expected.


                            Yes. there is a huge space for powerful commuters in 180-220 cc segment. What are the choices ?

                            TVS : I love Apache in every way but worried about rust.

                            Bajaj: Pulsar AS/NS200 (did not like it in ride quality dept). If NS 200 is the best Pulsar till now, Pulsar 180 and 220 are out of question.

                            KTM: Duke 200 (Pillion seat)

                            Hero: Karizma (pillion seat and looks. Fairing vibrates too but I think it can be rectified to acceptable levels)

                            Yamaha : Nothing in this segment. I like R15 but test ride not available and pillion seat as good as absent

                            Suzuki: Nothing in this segment . In addition, read about rusting issues in Gixxer recently..many users. Suzuki replaced rusted parts

                            Honda : CBR 250 ; Crosses 2 lakh OTR for ABS variant , waiting period 6-7 months, no idea about spares. Nothing in 200 CC

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                            • #29
                              Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

                              Originally posted by Anuj_Gupta View Post
                              With so little in their hands ,people always desire so much more..
                              You are wrong boss.. I have so much in my hands ... My desires my choice! Any problems?

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                              • #30
                                Re: Select Bike between Suzuki Gixxer SF or Pulsar AS200..

                                Originally posted by blitzz577 View Post
                                You are wrong boss.. I have so much in my hands ... My desires my choice! Any problems?
                                Well,good for you.

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