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    Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

    Hi all,
    I am Abhishek. I am planning to buy a mid segment tourer (probably in 400-800 cc range). I already own a bull, but am now desirous of having a fully faired sports tourer. I have test ridden a few of them. Please suggest me a good bike in this category
    My main requirements are priority wise)
    1. Great looks and sexy appeal( i know this should be last but somehow this dropped in as a first for me).
    2. Good after sales and service network
    3. Comfortable seating position, a little agressive stance would be fine but not as in RC 390.
    4. Good for long rides.
    5. Preferably a fully faired monster( but a naked would also do).
    6. Value for money.
    7. Easy to say bye bye to after 2-3 yrs, if i wish to upgrade.

    All suggestions, ownership experience, inputs and performance statistics are welcome and pl dont suggest me HD Street 750.

    Regards
    Abhishek

    PS: pl elaborate on the importance/need of ABS on a 600 cc bike whose main job is weekend rides and touring.....i have got really very mixed responses/opinions about ABS...some say it actually is a life saver..some say that w/o ABS you learn proper braking techniques...so a thorough input would be appreciated...and also how many "almost crash" instances have any of you encountered without the ABS if any...!!!
    55
    Kawasaki Ninja 650
    21.82%
    12
    Benelli TNT600GT
    9.09%
    5
    Triumph Street Triple
    9.09%
    5
    Ducati Monster 821
    7.27%
    4
    Benelli TNT600i
    9.09%
    5
    Hyosung GT 650 R
    0.00%
    0
    Hyosung Aquila 650 Pro
    0.00%
    0
    KTM RC 390
    7.27%
    4
    Triumph Bonneville
    5.45%
    3
    Harley Davidson Superlow
    7.27%
    4
    Ducati Scrambler
    7.27%
    4
    Honda CBR 650F
    12.73%
    7
    Yamaha YZFR3
    3.64%
    2

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by lucifer_abhi; 09-15-2015, 10:10 PM. Reason: additional inputs reqd
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    Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

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    • #3
      Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

      Kawasaki Ninja 650
      It's a lot like nuts and bolts - if the rider's nuts, the ride - bolts!

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      • #4
        Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

        Fully Faired Tourer with good looks and trustworthy engine :- Honda CBR 650F
        Only issue is with the price which is around 8 lacs, other wise you can go with Ninja 650.

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        • #5
          Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

          As we don't know about your budget you have three options which are fully faired and can be decent tourer :

          1. Honda CBR 650 F
          2. Kawasaki Ninja 650
          3. Benelli 600 GT

          If you have budget then I would suggest you CBR 650 then if you want in naked category you have many options starting from ER6N to Z800.

          Ride safe 😀

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          • #6
            Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

            Since inclined towards a faired tourer, CBR 650, Inline 4 if you like (hell , everybody does), But it doesnt fall under your price category. You can opt for N650 incase. If not, try to stretch your budget a little more and go for CBR.

            Resale should not be a problem as no one would doubt both the brands.I would stay away from Ducatis (IMO, maintenance is a bit high).

            But scrambler is definitely something you can consider of you end up disliking the above 2.
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            • #7
              Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

              My opinion/suggestion:
              1. Honda CBR650F. . .
              2. Kawasaki Ninja 650F . . .

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              • #8
                Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

                Considering the point of "easy to say bye bye after 2-3 years", it seems after selling this you will upgrade to something bigger.

                So the best bet would be the middle category from benelli amd kawasaki. If you go for the cbr650f, at one point you might regret that with a bit more money you could have brought z800, bandit 1250 and other bikes in 10 lakh category. Just my two cents.

                Personally, I would purchase kawasaki ninja 650r and save the rest of the money as I want to upgrade to something more bigger than kawa 650.

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                • #9
                  Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

                  An used Triumph Tiger 800 should be an option too. There nothing like the Tiger presently in India.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

                    Originally posted by lucifer_abhi View Post
                    Hi all,
                    I am Abhishek. I am planning to buy a mid segment tourer (probably in 400-800 cc range). I already own a bull, but am now desirous of having a fully faired sports tourer. I have test ridden a few of them. Please suggest me a good bike in this category
                    My main requirements are priority wise)
                    1. Great looks and sexy appeal( i know this should be last but somehow this dropped in as a first for me).
                    2. Good after sales and service network
                    3. Comfortable seating position, a little agressive stance would be fine but not as in RC 390.
                    4. Good for long rides.
                    5. Preferably a fully faired monster( but a naked would also do).
                    6. Value for money.
                    7. Easy to say bye bye to after 2-3 yrs, if i wish to upgrade.

                    All suggestions, ownership experience, inputs and performance statistics are welcome and pl dont suggest me HD Street 750.

                    Regards
                    Abhishek


                    RC390 and the Superlow.

                    With the RC390, you dont lose a lot of money, and yet you are prepared for a 150 BHP beast.
                    With the superlow, it being a Harley, you get very good resale.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

                      Originally posted by lucifer_abhi View Post
                      Hi all,
                      I am Abhishek. I am planning to buy a mid segment tourer (probably in 400-800 cc range). I already own a bull, but am now desirous of having a fully faired sports tourer. I have test ridden a few of them. Please suggest me a good bike in this category
                      My main requirements are priority wise)
                      1. Great looks and sexy appeal( i know this should be last but somehow this dropped in as a first for me).
                      2. Good after sales and service network
                      3. Comfortable seating position, a little agressive stance would be fine but not as in RC 390.
                      4. Good for long rides.
                      5. Preferably a fully faired monster( but a naked would also do).
                      6. Value for money.
                      7. Easy to say bye bye to after 2-3 yrs, if i wish to upgrade.


                      All suggestions, ownership experience, inputs and performance statistics are welcome and pl dont suggest me HD Street 750.


                      Regards
                      Abhishek

                      Hi Abhishek..If above poll was by you then Street Triple , Ducati Monster 800, CBR650F is no where upto or under 7L


                      Originally posted by lucifer_abhi
                      1. Great looks and sexy appeal( i know this should be last but somehow this dropped in as a first for me).
                      Can't say anything on this as it's individual choice and liking
                      Originally posted by lucifer_abhi
                      2. Good after sales and service network
                      Honda, Kawasaki and Benelli all are same. You have to wait for spare parts which are not running ones.
                      Originally posted by lucifer_abhi
                      3. Comfortable seating position, a little agressive stance would be fine but not as in RC 390.
                      RC390 is total wrong example, it's very agrresive I would almost close to GT250R Hyosung.


                      But in this category of yours N650 & 600i both are good.
                      Originally posted by lucifer_abhi
                      4. Good for long rides.
                      Benelli & Kawasaki both are capable
                      Originally posted by lucifer_abhi
                      5. Preferably a fully faired monster( but a naked would also do).
                      If Faired then I would say Ninja, If naked will do then Benelli
                      Originally posted by lucifer_abhi
                      6. Value for money.
                      Benelli
                      Originally posted by lucifer_abhi
                      7. Easy to say bye bye to after 2-3 yrs, if i wish to upgrade.
                      Din't get you on this ?


                      Today Benelli 600i or GT600 is one of most practical inline4 machine which one can buy in India with respective to price.


                      inline 4 is a total different world to ride. Why to go for Kawasaki when with 30-40k @6.4L you get an inline4. Sound is awesome, Handling is awesome. comes with a perelli tyre if I am not wrong. Naked street practical for daily ride or saddle sore either.
                      Can do Leh etc all.




                      I would invest on benelli for sure than kawasaki.


                      SVC of benelli is way different as compare to Hyosung. DSk management as taken a good initiative to give customer satisfaction 100%.
                      Last edited by NightFurry; 09-15-2015, 02:10 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

                        Originally posted by bobisbacktorock View Post
                        An used Triumph Tiger 800 should be an option too. There nothing like the Tiger presently in India.
                        Tiger 800 has just beenlaunched..test rode ot today... i m afraid i would get anyone to resell it...:P

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                        Originally posted by NightFurry View Post
                        Hi Abhishek..If above poll was by you then Street Triple , Ducati Monster 800, CBR650F is no where upto or under 7L



                        Can't say anything on this as it's individual choice and liking

                        Honda, Kawasaki and Benelli all are same. You have to wait for spare parts which are not running ones.

                        RC390 is total wrong example, it's very agrresive I would almost close to GT250R Hyosung.


                        But in this category of yours N650 & 600i both are good.

                        Benelli & Kawasaki both are capable

                        If Faired then I would say Ninja, If naked will do then Benelli

                        Benelli

                        Din't get you on this ?


                        Today Benelli 600i or GT600 is one of most practical inline4 machine which one can buy in India with respective to price.


                        inline 4 is a total different world to ride. Why to go for Kawasaki when with 30-40k @6.4L you get an inline4. Sound is awesome, Handling is awesome. comes with a perelli tyre if I am not wrong. Naked street practical for daily ride or saddle sore either.
                        Can do Leh etc all.




                        I would invest on benelli for sure than kawasaki.


                        SVC of benelli is way different as compare to Hyosung. DSk management as taken a good initiative to give customer satisfaction 100%.
                        Test ridden the Benellis..imo the 600 GT stands out... and its a great bike with comfy seating position........!!! whats your take on it..

                        ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                        Originally posted by NightFurry View Post
                        Hi Abhishek..If above poll was by you then Street Triple , Ducati Monster 800, CBR650F is no where upto or under 7L



                        Can't say anything on this as it's individual choice and liking

                        Honda, Kawasaki and Benelli all are same. You have to wait for spare parts which are not running ones.

                        RC390 is total wrong example, it's very agrresive I would almost close to GT250R Hyosung.


                        But in this category of yours N650 & 600i both are good.

                        Benelli & Kawasaki both are capable

                        If Faired then I would say Ninja, If naked will do then Benelli

                        Benelli

                        Din't get you on this ?


                        Today Benelli 600i or GT600 is one of most practical inline4 machine which one can buy in India with respective to price.


                        inline 4 is a total different world to ride. Why to go for Kawasaki when with 30-40k @6.4L you get an inline4. Sound is awesome, Handling is awesome. comes with a perelli tyre if I am not wrong. Naked street practical for daily ride or saddle sore either.
                        Can do Leh etc all.




                        I would invest on benelli for sure than kawasaki.


                        SVC of benelli is way different as compare to Hyosung. DSk management as taken a good initiative to give customer satisfaction 100%.
                        Yup...600GT has Pirelli Angels
                        and ya i can extend to 8.5 if the bikes worth it......i mean there should be a striking balance between price and specs/ looks.....thats y mentioned the ducati monster and the triumph and CBR 650F

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                        • #13
                          Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

                          Originally posted by lucifer_abhi View Post
                          and ya i can extend to 8.5 if the bikes worth it......i mean there should be a striking balance between price and specs/ looks.....thats y mentioned the ducati monster and the triumph and CBR 650F
                          If you can extend it for 8.5..why not the 650F. IMO, it does justice for a faired bike with a blend of city and touring machine. Looks says it all.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

                            Originally posted by lucifer_abhi View Post

                            Test ridden the Benellis..imo the 600 GT stands out... and its a great bike with comfy seating position........!!! whats your take on it..

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                            • #15
                              Re: Confused in the mid segment 400-800 cc tourer

                              Originally posted by lucifer_abhi View Post
                              Tiger 800 has just beenlaunched..test rode ot today... i m afraid i would get anyone to resell it...:P


                              Getting one in sell is not possible INMO, coz it's one of the best tourer in good spec.

                              Originally posted by lucifer_abhi View Post
                              Test ridden the Benellis..imo the 600 GT stands out... and its a great bike with comfy seating position........!!! whats your take on it..


                              I personally Like 600i, But when pillion comfortability is into picture then YEP! GT makes more sense.


                              Originally posted by lucifer_abhi View Post
                              Yup...600GT has Pirelli Angels
                              and ya i can extend to 8.5 if the bikes worth it......i mean there should be a striking balance between price and specs/ looks.....thats y mentioned the ducati monster and the triumph and CBR 650F
                              If you can extend to 8.5L then I would recommend you Z800 due to it's spec and ABS. Additionally you should be 5.6"ft up. It's a heavy bike but one of a monster in budget. Inline 4 sound and practical to ride.

                              I would recommended Street Triple but it's 9.3L OTR. It's lighter than Z800 and more easy to handle, Practical bike too. But inline 3, I don't prefer than sound at all.

                              CBR650F not at all recommended due to 9L OTR and you get 650cc mill.

                              SVCs are all same currently for Kawasaki/HONDA/BENELLI.

                              If budget constant then GT(Pillion) else 600i.
                              If money 8L+ can be managed then Z800.
                              If you like Street triple and shorter height than go for this with 9.3L
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