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**Divya Sharan** · 09-12-2014, 09:56 AM

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What Bike query approved!

**parth rohan** · 09-12-2014, 10:10 AM

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Well as per your needs i can suggest you to go with the star city or the discover 100M. Both these bikes are very robust and will match your riding needs and your priorities as well. The maintenance is cheap on both of these. As per your queries:

There is no difference in self start or electric start it is just a way of presenting by the companies.
200 mm and 240 mm create a large difference in performance due to increased surface area of the brakes.
There is not much difference in discover 100M and 125M.
Tubeless tyres are better because you can rides it almost 50 kms after puncture while with tube tires the problem is availability of a puncture repair shop.
Every company offers warranty on their bikes. TVS offers 2 year warranty on their bikes and you can confirm it from the service center.

**chakresh** · 09-12-2014, 10:22 AM

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Your assumption of honda and yamaha over pricing their products ....but they also have good and refined engines as compared to the brands you have selected.

you live only once.....

**Ankey** · 09-12-2014, 11:22 AM

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Hello brother,

# For the prices of Honda and Yamaha, yes they are higher, that is because the build quality and the quality of components used in their bikes are much better than any of the Indian companies(Hero, Bajaj and TVS). Their engines are very smooth and very very reliable. That is why they are expensive.

# Self start and electric start are one and the same thing.

# The bigger the diameter of the disc, the better will be the breaking.(240mm disc will stop the bike much quickly than 200mm disc).

# The only advantage of having a digital trip meter is that you get 2 seperate trip meters on your console, nothing else. Also digital meters are said to be more accurate than the analog ones.

# Tubeless tyres are much better than the ones with tubes, because when there is a puncture, they dont get flat instantly, whereas the tyres with tubes go flat witin seconds which can be dangerous when travelling at high speeds. The tubeless tyres retain air in them for hours after puncture, so you dont have to push the bike to puncture repair shop. But finding a tubeless puncture repair shop is hard in some places, so if you live in a city go for tubeless and if it is rural place where tubelss puncture repairs are not done, then go for tube tyres.

# Every company offers warrenty and free services with their vehicles, The warrenty is valid only if you service your vehicles regularly and only at authorised service centers. Failing to do so will cancle out the warrenty. The period of warrenty may differ from company to company, most will give 2 - 3 years warrenty. You can also choose for extended warrenty by paying few grands extra.

So going through your requirements, you can choose any a 100cc or 125cc discover from Bajaj. They are value for money, good fuel efficiency, fairly reliable if you take proper care of it, and cheap to maintain.

You can also have a look at Honda shine, it might be tiny bit expensive, but it will be much much smoother, very very reliable Honda engine, superb build quality, good fuel efficiency.

Same goes for Yamaha FZ-R, it is the cheapest 150cc bike available, Yamaha quality, butter smooth engine, bigger engine means more power, very good value for money.

I would suggest you to visit the respective showrooms and start taking test drives. A 5 minute test ride will tell you more about a bike than 1 month of online reading. The feel of the engine, the control of the bike in real world traffic, the brakes, the handling, how comfortable it is with a pillion on the back seat, the build quality, the vibrations from the engine etc etc.

All the best and happy bike hunting.

**deep007** · 09-12-2014, 02:37 PM

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If u want mileage,big bike feel,pickup(acceleration),top speed and more functions and cheap parts and after sale service than u should go for bajaj.discover 100 m is a good choice or get platina if looks is not a problem best engune from bajaj (platina 100).city mileage is 60-65.highway mileage is 75-80kmpl

For quality,smooth engine,comfort and little less mileage go for the dream neo/cd110 series from the honda.city mileage is 55-58.highway mileage is 65-70kmpl

Tvs star city plus is also good bike with same bajaj bike like mileage but spare parts is not easily available like bajaj bike..

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**gan** · 09-12-2014, 03:02 PM

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Thank you guys...

I mean maintenance in the sense that I don't want to visit mechanic shop/service center every now and then.

Originally posted by parth rohan View Post

Well as per your needs i can suggest you to go with the star city or the discover 100M. Both these bikes are very robust and will match your riding needs and your priorities as well. The maintenance is cheap on both of these. As per your queries:

There is no difference in self start or electric start it is just a way of presenting by the companies.
200 mm and 240 mm create a large difference in performance due to increased surface area of the brakes.
There is not much difference in discover 100M and 125M.
Tubeless tyres are better because you can rides it almost 50 kms after puncture while with tube tires the problem is availability of a puncture repair shop.
Every company offers warranty on their bikes. TVS offers 2 year warranty on their bikes and you can confirm it from the service center.

I think I need to check a little more about warranty. The scooter we're using right now is XL super. We service them every 3-4 months irrespective of how much kilometers it has done in the duration. I don't remember claiming any warranty. Every time, we're charged, even when it was new/free service, even for the nuts and bolts. Need to check what are things covers under warranty.

I was thinking that self start is something like in the cars, we just need to turn on with the keys and electric start is pushing the start button. But I was little confused when scanning bike specifications where they used both of them interchangeably.

Originally posted by Ankey View Post

# For the prices of Honda and Yamaha, yes they are higher, that is because the build quality and the quality of components used in their bikes are much better than any of the Indian companies(Hero, Bajaj and TVS). Their engines are very smooth and very very reliable. That is why they are expensive.

Originally posted by chakresh View Post

Your assumption of honda and yamaha over pricing their products ....but they also have good and refined engines as compared to the brands you have selected.
you live only once.....

I will take it as that every manufacturers make good products, while Yamaha and Honda making it even better. It doesn't mean that Hero, Bajaj, TVS make el cheapo poor quality products, right? I guess Indian manufacturers are no slouch against Yahonda.

Yeah, I live only once. Wish I could live longer like John Oldman

Originally posted by Ankey View Post

You can also have a look at Honda shine, it might be tiny bit expensive, but it will be much much smoother, very very reliable Honda engine, superb build quality, good fuel efficiency.

Drum variant itself costs north of 60k. I am not sure I could go with Shine. May be if someone convinces, I consider models from the brands I am not looking.

Originally posted by Ankey View Post

I would suggest you to visit the respective showrooms and start taking test drives. A 5 minute test ride will tell you more about a bike than 1 month of online reading. The feel of the engine, the control of the bike in real world traffic, the brakes, the handling, how comfortable it is with a pillion on the back seat, the build quality, the vibrations from the engine etc etc.

Yeah, sure. I will not take any bike without taking test drive. Just that I am preparing myself before hand. Don't wanna fall for sales pitch

Thanks everyone. I really appreciate your time and reply.

**chakresh** · 09-12-2014, 03:11 PM

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Dude "I live only once " thats my signature. 😊

**gan** · 09-12-2014, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by deep007 View Post

If u want mileage, that's the last priority. Very much OK if it gives decent among the competitor big bike feel,not necessary pickup(acceleration),definitely I am not racing,top speed and more functions 50-60kmph is not much I guess and cheap parts definitely I am not looking for el cheapo parts and after sale service this is "the most important" thing among others. than u should go for bajaj.discover 100 m is a good choice or get platina if looks is not a problem best engune from bajaj (platina 100).city mileage is 60-65.highway mileage is 75-80kmpl I don't know how did I missed this one. I have considered every bike from these three (100-125cc). Let me check and get back...

For quality,smooth engine,comfort and little less mileage go for the dream neo/cd110 series from the honda.city mileage is 55-58.highway mileage is 65-70kmpl

Seems like you guys insisting on Honda, I will check them...

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Originally posted by chakresh View Post

Dude "I live only once " thats my signature. 

I thought bottom most is your signature. But still... I wish I could live longer

**SatSon** · 09-12-2014, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Ankey View Post

Hello brother,

# For the prices of Honda and Yamaha, yes they are higher, that is because the build quality and the quality of components used in their bikes are much better than any of the Indian companies(Hero, Bajaj and TVS). Their engines are very smooth and very very reliable. That is why they are expensive.

Please leave out Hero from your list

They are in the country for decades now and the 97cc engine that does duty on Splendor/Deluxe/Dawn are the most reliable 100 cc engines in the country!
Build quality/quality of components are also top notch IMHO

**deep007** · 09-13-2014, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by SatSon View Post

Please leave out Hero from your list

They are in the country for decades now and the 97cc engine that does duty on Splendor/Deluxe/Dawn are the most reliable 100 cc engines in the country!
Build quality/quality of components are also top notch IMHO

+1 because it has honda engine that is the reason and is serving well at those years.hero is just sticker in it

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**abhi7013** · 09-13-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by deep007 View Post

+1 because it has honda engine that is the reason and is serving well at those years.hero is just sticker in it

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Are you sure that the engine components were shipped as it is from honda to hero, including the frame, electricals, etc etc and all hero did was assemble and sell? Cause that's what stickering means rite? For your info, engine is not the only component for a bike like splendour to be alive in the market for so long. What's the point in having a gem of an engine, married to an average quality frame and other components? Where does the reliability come from?

PS: I have a doubt. Regarding the internal engine components. Were they manufactured by hero and honda only shared the technical know how on building the engine?

**MarkNS** · 09-13-2014, 07:10 PM

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I won't bother saying anything because everything that I could have told, has been told already.

I would just like to congratulate you for being bold enough to sound like a complete layman so that you can get the best responses. Not everyone would dare to intentionally sound clueless about anything. That's how you can learn best.

Much appreciated. All the best for your new bike, whichever you may choose.

**krishna77** · 09-13-2014, 10:46 PM

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You have a good selection in hand already. Just add Honda Dream series(not twister - too thin rear tyre) and YBR110(you'll love the engine I bet - not very common on roads though). Passion Xpro is a good machine but on the pricier side. If you have a Suzuki dealership nearby, Hayate will be an excellent choice.

**TVSian** · 09-13-2014, 11:00 PM

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IMHO,I think You can go for the Phoenix 125.Thank you

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