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  • #16
    Re: Upgrade , but which one Brain VS Heart ?

    Originally posted by achyutish View Post
    Ohh you are wrong. Very wrong.BTW, The Ninja has a top whack of around 190kph+. Still think its' not a "BIG" upgrade over the Zmr??? lol, then I'd be technically "downgrading" once I get an entry level twin cylinder, for I ride a Classic 350. ROFL.
    I may be very very very very very wrong in your view as i am not looking for a top speed. I am not looking for racing. Wrong Call mate.Downgrade/upgrade is all you choice mate i just wish it make you happy & laughing out loud.If you have any ownership experience of Ninja 300/650 then kindly share it.
    Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post
    I think people here were very clear ... IMO
    And my opinion differ's here .....
    Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post
    It's the country you are in ... its hot I had a Super low for the weekend and vowed never to have Tandoori Chicken after experiencing what I had... poor chickens
    That doesn't mean bike's are meant to burn other's even with the cooling technology provided. Anyway origional question remains unanswered .....
    Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post
    Problem is the underlined part. 'As of now...' It doesn't end with as of now and goes on for ever and ever .... the pain and cost ... of spares and services ...
    If one is thinking to buy it them 90% chances he already thought about expenses. BTW no service center here. All it going to be DIY & that's why i am more inclined towards Ninja as many time i heard them to best built & you also mentioned same at the end of post.....
    Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post
    a fully faired bike doesn't qualify it to be a looker ... I would look at a Ducati Monster rather than the CBR650 thing
    Different people different view/taste . No rule/definition of looker.....
    Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post
    A 650 is not really a status symbol ... you can get a Ninja 650 for as low as 3 (ok 3.5) and not a single soul would know. Its never the ride ... its the rider
    Different story at different places.....
    Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post
    You understand summer comes every year ... not trying to be an ass .. but just saying. And my FZ would be happy doing 100 all the time too ...
    Yeah but it would be good to buy it & ride almost upto 8/9 months then park for 3/4 month rather than buy & park it & wait for summer to finish. Yeah FZ is good ridden it for good amount of time, but wanting to buy 300/650.....
    Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post
    On this my friend, you are so wrong .... 38.5BHP and 27NM vs 20bhp and 19 NM wrong. I've all but respect for the ZMR, but it doesn't hold a candle to the beacon that the Ninja is ... often touted as the best beginner's bike in the world.
    And what about 650R vs 300R , can you comment what may be i am missing by paying 1.7/1.8l more & what i may be missing by saving 1.7/1.8l .....
    Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post
    End of the day my friend, people can only advise you based on our experience as a community and that of ownership ... the decision is all yours and you need to understand the pros and cons of each segment of motorcycle and what and why you need it for. Happy riding ...
    That is what i want advise of peoples on their ownership / riding experience of that bike not just words of mouth. So that i understand pro's cons & decide which one i would go for , so to do happy riding.....
    Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
    google it my dear friend.. That would be the first thing I do when I hear a new name..
    Not you but almost 99% people do it. But is reviews/ info came by google fully trustable? Isn't possibility to came across paid review. My way if have no solid info to share then don't mention it.
    Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
    Seriously? LMAO BIG upgrade? I believe you own the first generation ZMR.. even if you own the 2014 ZMR, it goes no where near the Ninja 300.. no ways.. Not at all.. The Ninja is way superior.. Both in terms of performance and quality..How do you compare a ZMR with Ninja 300? Man, even upgrading to the RC200 is a huge upgrade from the ZMR in terms of performance.. Don't go by the CC.. never.. Going by what you say, anyone moving to the Duke/RC 390 from RE 350 is not a BIG upgrade
    Compare 2 different class ? Where did i ? It's my view mate & it is not same to your's. What! Never go by cc, you got it all wrong, i am just confused paying 4L for 300 CC then why not pay 1.7/1.8L more & get almost double/more in this case 650 CC. Is that wrong, what may be i am missing, what will came with this added money & CC or what i will loose by saving money ? that's why i posted this thread to get some solid owners view/experience & help. May be your defination of BIG is different than mine. So enjoy Laughing your a** (a***) off
    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    [MENTION=38122]Above_All[/MENTION], if you have friends who own N300/R3, request them for a test ride. All your doubts will be automatically answered.
    That's the problem Friend has N250R, And Showroom is not providing testride. Bajaj link just shows coming soon for test rides. So as of some trusty source i decided to ask owners/experienced persons about sitting position, comfort, handling not top speed. What is R3? Is you mean RC390? One Duke is already in family.
    Originally posted by The Monk View Post
    This post is not to help you with which bike to buy. It is more of a general statement. Some people believe that 300cc is all you need to commute daily in the city. Good for them. Others commute on 600s, 1000s and even the Hayabusa. Even Harleys! What do you want and what are you capable of, only you know! Yes, the N3 will feel powerful after a ZMR. But things like power, speed etc are relative. The other day i was riding in rush hour Gurgaon-Delhi traffic on a Rocket III, no problems whatsoever. Would i want to do that everyday, probably not.The joy of big bikes is not the top speed (we do not have roads for high speeds), it is all about acceleration. The incredible acceleration is what makes it so much fun to ride, even in the city. I remember riding the Daytona R in congested city traffic from Manesar to Noida and i had a blast. Aggressive riding posture, supersport, high revving engine, low torque notwithstanding, it was fantastic. The Benelli 899 is a hoot to ride in traffic. I cannot sit and recall all the big bikes i have ridden in traffic, but let me assure you that rarely ever have i felt it a pain to ride! If i had the money why wouldn't I! Maybe i wouldn't want to ride a big bike everyday in traffic. So what, i will just keep a 200cc for daily commutes! If you feel you are capable riding a big bike everyday, then go for it. If you feel you aren't ready, then you aren't!
    This is it monk. Spot on your reply seems to be more what i was looking. Thank youI want help to decide from owners experience which i am unable to gather from ownership thread & from own experience as no test ride of N650R & N300R provided. And any other options in the range, but instead it turn out to be thread with replies of top speed & all day long speed range.Acceleration some time good to have as backup so looking for it to.Thanks for sharing the experience , I won't be using to commute everyday as i have to give some run to other bikes to in a week. What i was looking is when you get something different then almost every person is staring at you while at signal / traffic / on road. I just want it to be move calmly without much effort & yes temperature. And on highway it must be capable to overtake/catch someone if needed as NH3 is good one.Can you please share experience of riding N650R & N300 if you have any, that would be very helpful. Can some owner do share there experience. Can someone please tag active owner here .

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    • #17
      Re: Upgrade , but which one Brain VS Heart ?

      I'm not one to say that a higher capacity is worth it. If it were I wouldn't be renting them over the weekend. Hyderabad has a lot of stop and go over the week end and they get hot. The super low did ... the Benelli 600 did and so did the Bonneville and the Daytona 675. This, I'm not shooting blanks.

      As pointed out by The Monk .... yes they are a hoot to ride. Its not only the expense but also the pain of waiting for parts and this and that. There are SBK mechanics who will service them outside of the Dealerships as well ... but nevertheless ...

      Since, you ask about the 600 segment and you want the faired models ... I would suggest that the N650 is your best bet. The CBR is a bit overpriced IMO. But if can put aside the faired models requirement ... try the Z800. Never has there been a better crowd grabber IMO and is loads of ridiculously silly fun when you are riding it. I was grinning like an idiot all the way. And you can get a test ride of that easy.

      ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

      Originally posted by The Monk View Post
      Daytona R .... Benelli 899
      OT ... but jealousy is a real thing ... I can feel it
      When I'm on the road, I'm indestructible. No one can stop me... but they try.

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      • #18
        Re: Upgrade , but which one Brain VS Heart ?

        Originally posted by Above_All View Post
        Compare 2 different class ? Where did i ? It's my view mate & it is not same to your's. What! Never go by cc, you got it all wrong, i am just confused paying 4L for 300 CC then why not pay 1.7/1.8L more & get almost double/more in this case 650 CC. Is that wrong, what may be i am missing, what will came with this added money & CC or what i will loose by saving money ? that's why i posted this thread to get some solid owners view/experience & help. May be your defination of BIG is different than mine. So enjoy Laughing your a** (a***) off
        I was talking about your comparison of ZMR with the Ninja 300.. I guess I quoted that particular post of yours.. There is no point giving you suggestion from my side.. As you don't seem to understand what I am saying..

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        • #19
          Re: Upgrade , but which one Brain VS Heart ?

          Originally posted by achyutish View Post
          Ohh you are wrong. Very wrong. It makes a world of difference. and a bike is much, much more than it's engine. even with the engine the 300cc kwacker is a treat in this side of 4 lakh. Before the TNT300 came along, it had almost no competition.
          The Ninja 300 is a great machine. The prime point is the motor is happy throughout the rev range and not in the top band like the Z250.
          If it was me, I'd settle for the Benelli TNT 300, solely 'cause of that sound.

          BTW, The Ninja has a top whack of around 190kph+. Still think its' not a "BIG" upgrade over the Zmr???

          lol, then I'd be technically "downgrading" once I get an entry level twin cylinder, for I ride a Classic 350. ROFL.
          Originally posted by Above_All View Post
          I may be very very very very very wrong in your view as i am not looking for a top speed. I am not looking for racing. Wrong Call mate.Downgrade/upgrade is all you choice mate i just wish it make you happy & laughing out loud.If you have any ownership experience of Ninja 300/650 then kindly share it.
          I don't want to initiate an OT, but I'd rather wish you luck on your endeavour to find the perfect bike. just one thing, if you compare Roman ruby and gooseberries because both are of same size and are round, you're bound to be corrected.

          and Top speed was just a part of what I said. The whole previous sentence deals with what you have asked for. and no, I don't have an ownership exp. of the Ninjas. I have ridden both though. For ownership exp, we have a dedicated section, you can ask there.
          according to me, the Ninja 300 is jolly good for our roads. Get one and as said, pimp it up with accessories, like an akra or a TBR muffler, etc.

          : peace :
          Last edited by achyutish; 03-24-2016, 10:15 AM.

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          • #20
            Re: Upgrade , but which one Brain VS Heart ?

            Originally posted by Above_All View Post
            While Brain saying around 4 lakh for 300CC is not good go for 650CC in 5.90 lakh.
            2016 N650 isn't looking that much attractive with Green+Black+Silver combo.
            paying 4L for 300cc is mad!

            However you can get a N650 for less than 4L. 2014 model maybe. Don't be put off with the notion of it being a used bike.
            The N650 is brilliant. So easy to ride and comfortable. You'll love it!

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            • #21
              Re: Upgrade , but which one Brain VS Heart ?

              Originally posted by Above_All View Post
              This is it monk. Spot on your reply seems to be more what i was looking. Thank youI want help to decide from owners experience which i am unable to gather from ownership thread & from own experience as no test ride of N650R & N300R provided. And any other options in the range, but instead it turn out to be thread with replies of top speed & all day long speed range.Acceleration some time good to have as backup so looking for it to.Thanks for sharing the experience , I won't be using to commute everyday as i have to give some run to other bikes to in a week. What i was looking is when you get something different then almost every person is staring at you while at signal / traffic / on road. I just want it to be move calmly without much effort & yes temperature. And on highway it must be capable to overtake/catch someone if needed as NH3 is good one.Can you please share experience of riding N650R & N300 if you have any, that would be very helpful. Can some owner do share there experience. Can someone please tag active owner here .
              I am an owner of neither. Between the two i would go for the N300. The N650 does absolutely nothing for me! But these are personal choices.

              Sachin Nair's 650 ownership you should read. Another xBhpian who isn't very active on the forum, but who has a N650 and knows how to maintain it with minimal monies is @xenologic Though if you manage to get a reply out of him, i would be shocked

              For the N300, just go through the ownership thread.

              Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post
              OT ... but jealousy is a real thing ... I can feel it
              Oh did i not mention the best part. I only ride these bikes. I don't own them, thus don't spend a penny on maintaining/ repairing them
              Biking is not about what you have between your legs, its all about how well you use it!!!!!!!

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              • #22
                Re: Upgrade , but which one Brain VS Heart ?

                That's why & that's how i typed, i am totally in confusion. What to get.



                As of now no issue of budget, i initially thought of Monster ZX14R or ZX10R but practical part of brain said why to buy it when you can't even utilise it's 50% power?
                So keeping in mind Performance, looks & Status Symbol thought for 650, so atleast i can utilise ~60/80% power of it.
                Yes i would love to have that sound of inline four, but also want it to be looker so prefering fully faired.
                No idea about G310R but hoping to be released around Diwali.



                If budget is not a problem you can look at Versys 650 its a very good tourer and handles well in traffic. Costs 7.4L OTR Bangalore.
                yes its a tall bike , will suit riders 5.10" above .

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                • #23
                  Re: Upgrade , but which one Brain VS Heart ?

                  Originally posted by Above_All View Post
                  What is R3? Is you mean RC390?
                  I meant Yamaha R3. Though it wasn't there in your original list, but costs roughly 3.8 L OTR in KA (give or take 5k). Makes 42 hp.
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