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    Hi guys!!!
    After 4 years and 45000 kms I parted with my NS last month. Had been a journey of ups and downs, a few niggles and a load of electrical fails. But the bike did lit up a smile whenever I saddled. Now as she is gone, I am looking for a new/sparingly used bike within the budget of 2.5 lakhs.

    My requirements and aspirations are simple yet kind of demanding in the new age scenario.
    • Laid back 90% Sporty when I need a kick.

    I would like something I can comfortably ride around at 60 all day and gets to 140 when needed. Strong mid range around 4-6k rpm
    • A good handler.

    Not that I carve corners everyday, but something that doesn't complain when I flick or lean.
    • A good engine and a gearbox.

    A >200CC motor will be my choice. Refinement is a deciding factor.
    • Least electricals

    No need for a FI system or ABS. Not even an electrical display unit. A self start and DC lights is all I need.
    • Looks/Road presence/Sex Appeal

    I don't care. A sleeper is what I really need. Would prefer metal over fiber boxes any day.
    • After sales and maintenance charges

    Something that doesn't burn a hole every time I service. A good resale value is an add on.
    • Avoid KTM/BAJAJ/TVS.

    Nahhh!!!! I have had enough of them.

    Please let me know the options that come to your mind. I can wait for another 4-6 months before getting the bike. This is not for an immediate purchase. 2.5 LKHs is my upper end budget. Classics and retros too are an option.

    Your's fellow Rider
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    • #3
      Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

      A CBR 250R with ABS would do the trick.
      I would like to thank my legs for supporting me, my arms for being always by my side and my fingers; I could always count on them.

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        Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

        You can get a well maintained Ninja 250 at that price tag. Even a Ninja 300 if you are good at negotiation.. try the TNT 25, Mojo, CBR250R..
        Splendor - 2k to 2006
        Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
        P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
        Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
        ZMR - 2010 to Forever
        RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
        Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
        RayZ - 2015 til now
        Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


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        • #5
          Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

          Originally posted by Ankey View Post
          A CBR 250R with ABS would do the trick.
          Yea. One of my choices. Gave some thought about it. Have been riding a friend's CBR extensively. I like it. Yet it is something that cannot be thrashed around or user serviced. Kind of a letdown.

          Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
          You can get a well maintained Ninja 250 at that price tag. Even a Ninja 300 if you are good at negotiation.. try the TNT 25, Mojo, CBR250R..
          Well. I hate how mojo looks. Kind of inclined towards Himalayan since it showed up on my youtube feed today. how is the ownership costs of Ninja 250??
          Riding is not about destinations, it's about journeys.

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            Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

            First thing that came to my mind when i read you only need dc lights and self start is Royal Enfield. It can stay happily at 60kmph all day long but it definitely won't touch 140kmph. So if you are okay with enfields go for it.. Or else CBR250R or Mojo.
            All the best

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              Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

              Originally posted by Arun Magus View Post
              Hi guys!!!
              After 4 years and 45000 kms I parted with my NS last month. Had been a journey of ups and downs, a few niggles and a load of electrical fails. But the bike did lit up a smile whenever I saddled. Now as she is gone, I am looking for a new/sparingly used bike within the budget of 2.5 lakhs.

              My requirements and aspirations are simple yet kind of demanding in the new age scenario.
              • Laid back 90% Sporty when I need a kick.

              I would like something I can comfortably ride around at 60 all day and gets to 140 when needed. Strong mid range around 4-6k rpm
              • A good handler.

              Not that I carve corners everyday, but something that doesn't complain when I flick or lean.
              • A good engine and a gearbox.

              A >200CC motor will be my choice. Refinement is a deciding factor.
              • Least electricals

              No need for a FI system or ABS. Not even an electrical display unit. A self start and DC lights is all I need.
              • Looks/Road presence/Sex Appeal

              I don't care. A sleeper is what I really need. Would prefer metal over fiber boxes any day.
              • After sales and maintenance charges

              Something that doesn't burn a hole every time I service. A good resale value is an add on.
              • Avoid KTM/BAJAJ/TVS.

              Nahhh!!!! I have had enough of them.

              Please let me know the options that come to your mind. I can wait for another 4-6 months before getting the bike. This is not for an immediate purchase. 2.5 LKHs is my upper end budget. Classics and retros too are an option.

              Your's fellow Rider
              Fellow Biker,
              In the first thing I could read is,Niggles and Loads of (electrical) failures; After Being through That, I suggest you do not look for a used bike as a first preference AT ALL. Unless its a particular bike that has been in in your sight always and is owned by some one you know very well.

              Then, Point No.4 LEAST ELECTRICALS; (See your previous ownership has left a scar on you now, Even more reason not to go for a used bike)
              Now with the advent of technology, there is No Escaping Electricals. And they are here for our benefit! Dont worry, All electrical systems are not bad. (Only ASCs are bad)

              All the other Points, will definitely be fulfilled by a CBR 250R. Smooth gear box, Smooth engine that is flick-able. Its a perfect Bully in Tuxedo who can be gentle unless provoked. Comfortable ride at all times.

              Dont worry if it has less user serviceable parts. If you really want to get Inside it, you can still do so with the right collection of tools and a good internet search.

              Used bikes can become a nightmare, because there's no telling how much abuse and neglect they have been through, take it from me i have learnt it the hard way. You have a good budget to start with, you can buy a fresh bike which will be used single handed and carefully by you and trust me you wont ever regret the decision.

              If CBR is not your thing, then there are many new players to look at, You mentioned you have plenty of time, look around, take as many test rides as it takes to make you mind about a bike of your choice!

              Dont forget, you are looking for an upgrade, and not just a next higher capacity bike!

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                Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

                Originally posted by rugved View Post
                Its a perfect Bully in Tuxedo who can be gentle unless provoked.
                Such a perfect description. And even I think CBR is the perfect option if you are upgrading from NS. Also, does provoken CBR really do 140+ and be agile?

                I also have a gut feeling after regularly following the Himalayan ownership thread and reviews everywhere, that the circuits are not so good you'd feel relieved from NS. RE is still not upto the mark I guess. Avoiding KTM/Bajaj/TVS and going for RE does not make sense. Also sporty riding and high performance are not Himalayan things.

                Try to choose between CBR, Ninja, TNT25 and RC390 or anything that pops up onwards. RC390 and KTMs do not function like their Bajaj counterparts, do they?
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                • #9
                  Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

                  Originally posted by Vattsy View Post
                  Such a perfect description. And even I think CBR is the perfect option if you are upgrading from NS. Also, does provoken CBR really do 140+ and be agile?

                  I also have a gut feeling after regularly following the Himalayan ownership thread and reviews everywhere, that the circuits are not so good you'd feel relieved from NS. RE is still not upto the mark I guess. Avoiding KTM/Bajaj/TVS and going for RE does not make sense. Also sporty riding and high performance are not Himalayan things.

                  Try to choose between CBR, Ninja, TNT25 and RC390 or anything that pops up onwards. RC390 and KTMs do not function like their Bajaj counterparts, do they?
                  140+, Definitely not (unless someone has done it, but it would still be a one off case)

                  But holding three digit speeds, with good handling and braking capacity are exactly CBRs playing grounds.

                  @ The original thread starter, you dont want electrical nightmares, stay away from RE, the thing is not yet seasoned yet.

                  I own a RE TBTS 350, totally satisfied with it. My Cousin owns a CBR 250r for almost 4+ years now, and he wont even trade it for a CBR1000 (to say), I went through 3 used bikes earlier and i ended up in garage so often that i could almost pass for a mechanic myself . Had modest TVS Victor GLX which was my First NEW Bike, and the things been running since 2005 till date, not a single breakdown. I can just fill the GLX and ride it from HYD to Mumbai, that confident (not that i would, unless i swapped its seat with that of a lazyboy). The point is Go for a New Bike!.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

                    CBR 250 and RE Himalayan would be good for your purpose.
                    Though i am not sure about Himalayan braking but CBR is all proven machine and it won't let you down.
                    I don't know why are you not considering KTM duke 390.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

                      Originally posted by Arun Magus View Post
                      Well. I hate how mojo looks. Kind of inclined towards Himalayan since it showed up on my youtube feed today. how is the ownership costs of Ninja 250??
                      That might be a problem. The quality of parts are too good, they can last long and on the other hand, it would cost you a bomb. Take for example, the chain sprockets would cost you close to 14K if you are getting them replaced in ASC, otherwise 8K for rolon kits..

                      The Original indicators of Ninja 250 will cost you close to 1300 per piece and that of Ninja 300 will cost you close to 2700..
                      Splendor - 2k to 2006
                      Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                      P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                      Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                      ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                      RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                      Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                      RayZ - 2015 til now
                      Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                      Delhi to Narkanda
                      Delhi to Coimbatore
                      Delhi to Nepal

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                        Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

                        Originally posted by Arun Magus View Post
                        Yea. One of my choices. Gave some thought about it. Have been riding a friend's CBR extensively. I like it. Yet it is something that cannot be thrashed around or user serviced. Kind of a letdown.



                        Well. I hate how mojo looks. Kind of inclined towards Himalayan since it showed up on my youtube feed today. how is the ownership costs of Ninja 250??

                        Don't even go near RE if unless you deliberately want something that goes wrong all the time. Don't believe me, read the himalayan ownership thread end to end, Its hardly 30 pages. Then make an informed decision.
                        I would like to thank my legs for supporting me, my arms for being always by my side and my fingers; I could always count on them.

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                          Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

                          I say go for CBR 250 or the Duke 200/390.

                          You can definitely change engine oil, oil filter, air filter and coolant yourself. Brake pads too.

                          I'm not aware of any electrically-void bike which can do 140+ from time to time.
                          Last edited by leech; 09-07-2016, 12:09 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

                            Chain and sprocket of CBR 250 cost me 2k yesterday. Cheaper than r15. The indicators are around 300 according to svc. The oil filter, however, costs ~350 because it's not made by desi hands but Thai massaged. Air filter is 260 bucks.

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                              Re: Upgrading from an NS 200. Need suggestions.

                              Well first of all, it is good to be back in the pack. Should admit I have been out of the biking scene for a while. Thank you all for the inputs.

                              Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View Post
                              First thing that came to my mind when i read you only need dc lights and self start is Royal Enfield. It can stay happily at 60kmph all day long but it definitely won't touch 140kmph. So if you are okay with enfields go for it.. Or else CBR250R or Mojo.
                              All the best
                              Thankfully college has given me the opportunity to ride almost all the bikes around. Now since that phase is almost done, I am looking for my first "into the job" bike. I like the laid backness of RE, but I don't trust that lady for sure. Convince me will you !!!! CBR yes. There was a story of a 300 coming up ryt?

                              Originally posted by rugved View Post
                              Fellow Biker,
                              In the first thing I could read is,Niggles and Loads of (electrical) failures; After Being through That, I suggest you do not look for a used bike as a first preference AT ALL. Unless its a particular bike that has been in in your sight always and is owned by some one you know very well.

                              Well I kept is as an option because I had my eyes on an RD350. But will the emission norms screw me up??

                              Then, Point No.4 LEAST ELECTRICALS; (See your previous ownership has left a scar on you now, Even more reason not to go for a used bike)
                              Now with the advent of technology, there is No Escaping Electricals. And they are here for our benefit! Dont worry, All electrical systems are not bad. (Only ASCs are bad)

                              All the other Points, will definitely be fulfilled by a CBR 250R. Smooth gear box, Smooth engine that is flick-able. Its a perfect Bully in Tuxedo who can be gentle unless provoked. Comfortable ride at all times.

                              Dont worry if it has less user serviceable parts. If you really want to get Inside it, you can still do so with the right collection of tools and a good internet search.

                              Used bikes can become a nightmare, because there's no telling how much abuse and neglect they have been through, take it from me i have learnt it the hard way. You have a good budget to start with, you can buy a fresh bike which will be used single handed and carefully by you and trust me you wont ever regret the decision.

                              If CBR is not your thing, then there are many new players to look at, You mentioned you have plenty of time, look around, take as many test rides as it takes to make you mind about a bike of your choice!

                              Dont forget, you are looking for an upgrade, and not just a next higher capacity bike!
                              "Bully in tuxedo" I had an instant smile on my face. LOL u can write. Yes man, a CBR will do the job, and as I said I have had a good experience of it. One of my friends has a flashy repsol. (I hope he doesnt read this :P) But I dont really dig fairings.

                              Originally posted by Vattsy View Post
                              Such a perfect description. And even I think CBR is the perfect option if you are upgrading from NS. Also, does provoken CBR really do 140+ and be agile?

                              I also have a gut feeling after regularly following the Himalayan ownership thread and reviews everywhere, that the circuits are not so good you'd feel relieved from NS. RE is still not upto the mark I guess. Avoiding KTM/Bajaj/TVS and going for RE does not make sense. Also sporty riding and high performance are not Himalayan things.

                              Try to choose between CBR, Ninja, TNT25 and RC390 or anything that pops up onwards. RC390 and KTMs do not function like their Bajaj counterparts, do they?
                              I felt the Himalayan can be thrashed around and the main reason why I thought about it. RC has too much of an aggressive stance. And honestly I cant maintain a Ninja. benelli doesnt have a showroom in my city too. CBR is the one left.

                              Originally posted by rugved View Post
                              140+, Definitely not (unless someone has done it, but it would still be a one off case)

                              But holding three digit speeds, with good handling and braking capacity are exactly CBRs playing grounds.

                              @ The original thread starter, you dont want electrical nightmares, stay away from RE, the thing is not yet seasoned yet.

                              I own a RE TBTS 350, totally satisfied with it. My Cousin owns a CBR 250r for almost 4+ years now, and he wont even trade it for a CBR1000 (to say), I went through 3 used bikes earlier and i ended up in garage so often that i could almost pass for a mechanic myself . Had modest TVS Victor GLX which was my First NEW Bike, and the things been running since 2005 till date, not a single breakdown. I can just fill the GLX and ride it from HYD to Mumbai, that confident (not that i would, unless i swapped its seat with that of a lazyboy). The point is Go for a New Bike!.
                              Hehe... Bajaj scared the wits out of me with the electricals. But for 3 years it did work all good. As I said, used is only an option if I am looking for a RE or an RD. No high revving engines will be bought second hand.

                              Originally posted by Neerajvayu View Post
                              CBR 250 and RE Himalayan would be good for your purpose.
                              Though i am not sure about Himalayan braking but CBR is all proven machine and it won't let you down.
                              I don't know why are you not considering KTM duke 390.
                              Well I don't really want a high revving motor. That is why not a D390 fan. CBR as I said is an option.

                              Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                              That might be a problem. The quality of parts are too good, they can last long and on the other hand, it would cost you a bomb. Take for example, the chain sprockets would cost you close to 14K if you are getting them replaced in ASC, otherwise 8K for rolon kits..

                              The Original indicators of Ninja 250 will cost you close to 1300 per piece and that of Ninja 300 will cost you close to 2700..
                              Well you just said why I am not looking at a Ninja. With figures. Thank you.

                              Originally posted by Ankey View Post
                              Don't even go near RE if unless you deliberately want something that goes wrong all the time. Don't believe me, read the himalayan ownership thread end to end, Its hardly 30 pages. Then make an informed decision.
                              Yes. I will eye it soon.

                              Originally posted by leech View Post
                              I say go for CBR 250 or the Duke 200/300.

                              You can definitely change engine oil, oil filter, air filter and coolant yourself. Brake pads too.

                              I'm not aware of any electrically-void bike which can do 140+ from time to time.
                              D twins, I don't find them appealing. And I get AFS from Bajaj. Big letdown. CBR yes.
                              Riding is not about destinations, it's about journeys.

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