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  • Looking for a safe mile munching machine

    Hi All,
    I recently joined xBHP (thanks to the moderators for approving my request) and I'm learning a lot about motorbikes from this forum. I hope, I'll start to contribute soon.
    I was owning a Suzuki GS150R (2009 model) before and had to sell it after 5 years with a heavy heart, as I had to travel on a short term deputation.
    It was such a wonderful bike and ticked all the right boxes for me. Its such a disappointment that the bike is discontinued owing to poor sales!
    I'll back to Bangalore in another month and checking out the available options for a new/pre-worshiped bike.
    Here are my considerations:


    1) Budget: Around 1 Lakh (new or pre-worshiped).
    2) Age: 33 years
    3) Height: 5' 9"
    4) Weight: 60 Kg
    5) Intended Use: I'll be riding 150+ KM every weekend, and office commutes within the city on week days (20 KM up and down per day).
    6) Fuel Efficiency: Around 40 KMPL.
    7) City and Highway Use: 40(City):60 (Highways)
    8) Approximate running per month: 800 - 1000 KM
    9) City of Residence: Bangalore
    10) Other preferences:
    a) ABS is mandatory.
    b) Simple construction and easy maintenance. This is to the extent that I prefer air cooled engines to oil/liquid cooled engines.
    I'm not sure how technically good the service centers are.
    c) Easy availability of spare parts.
    d) Tubeless tires
    e) Resale value is not a concern, as I'll be owning the bike for a long time.

    Available options:

    1) TVS APACHE RTR 180 ABS:
    + dual channel ABS
    +Nimble handling and raw power
    +Decent mileage for the power
    +Good for in city rides and decent for weekend drives. I'll be spending > 60% of time on highways though.
    +Good riding position for my height. I have ridden my friend's RTR 160 before.
    +VFM pricing

    -Vibrations. For all the above positives, I'm prepared to live with it. But not sure how much fatigue it'd cause on long highway rides.
    -Light weight and could pose problems in highways due to cross winds.

    2) TVS APACHE RTR 200 4V ABS:
    +dual channel ABS
    +Nimble handling and raw power, as per the reviews. I've not test driven it yet.
    +Decent mileage for the power
    +VFM pricing
    +Read that there are no vibrations

    -Not sure when ABS variant would be released and whether it'd be available in carbureted version. I don't prefer the FI variant for ease of maintenance.
    -I've not test driven this bike and not sure how good it'd be on highways.

    3) Used CBR 250R with ABS:
    +Perfect tourer and decent for city rides as well
    +Smooth and long lasting engine
    +Good mileage and relatively cheap to maintain

    - Finding the ABS version in used market is very tough.
    -I'm not sure about how technically equipped the service people are to deal with this bike.

    Right now, I'm considering the Apache RTR 180 ABS. Please let me know if I'm missing any key points or any other options.
    Thanks for your time and response.

    PS: I have a soft corner towards R15, though it not ABS equipped.

    Regards,
    A Amarnath

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    Re: Looking for a safe mile munching machine

    Query approved!

    With requirements 10.a and 10.b, only RTR180 ABS comes to mind.
    RTR200 ABS 'may' not be launched any time soon and CBR250R will be 1.5+ in the used market, especially in Bangalore.

    If you're comfortable with the looks of Bajaj RS200, do give it a thought as well. It has a single channel ABS only, but it is definitely better than no ABS.
    It being new may not be readily available in the used market. But if available, it would be relatively less thrashed.

    And welcome to xBhp!
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    • #3
      Re: Looking for a safe mile munching machine

      RTR200 ABS 'may' not be launched any time soon
      Yes, I see that. Further there is no concrete information on whether ABS can be retrofitted. Any idea please?

      If you're comfortable with the looks of Bajaj RS200, do give it a thought as well. It has a single channel ABS only, but it is definitely better than no ABS.
      It being new may not be readily available in the used market. But if available, it would be relatively less thrashed.
      Thanks for the suggestion, Divya Sharan. I'll check this bike as well.

      And welcome to xBhp!
      Thank You!!

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        Re: Looking for a safe mile munching machine

        We don't have many options with ABS. Even the R3 and Baby Ninja don't have ABS.. only option you have is the RTR180 ABS.. used bike CBR with ABS will be a difficult find unless you are ready to buy a bike from other state.. in Delhi there are options for 90k and above.. RS200 would be a good option if you can find one!!
        Splendor - 2k to 2006
        Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
        P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
        Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
        ZMR - 2010 to Forever
        RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
        Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
        RayZ - 2015 til now
        Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


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        • #5
          Re: Looking for a safe mile munching machine

          Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
          We don't have many options with ABS. Even the R3 and Baby Ninja don't have ABS.. only option you have is the RTR180 ABS.. used bike CBR with ABS will be a difficult find unless you are ready to buy a bike from other state.. in Delhi there are options for 90k and above.. RS200 would be a good option if you can find one!!
          Thanks rreneav1987. I'm considering RS200 as an option as well. I still have more than 2 months. If RTR 200 ABS variant is available, I'll pick that. Else it would be RTR 180 ABS / Pulsar RS200. Thanks for your suggestion on buying a bike from other states. I'm not sure how feasible it would be, but will check out the options.

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          • #6
            Re: Looking for a safe mile munching machine

            If you like r15 then you should go for it otherwise wait for apache 200 abs rather than going for apache 180 which is very much dated when compared to apache200.
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            • #7
              Re: Looking for a safe mile munching machine

              Mate, I strongly suggest you go for RTR180 ABS if you feel comfortable to ride on it. I just test drove it, its smooth, no vibes.

              I drove 3 RTR180's (new model) One was brand new, other was 5000Km run & another was abused & run 20,000km's. They are all decently refined.

              RTR200 ABS will take atleast 6 months to launch! right now, even base version of RTR200 has more than 2 months waiting in Bangalore, that too for a random colour.

              Since you are slightly taller, R15 may not suit you. Also it has expensive spares and lacks ABS. It is not a 'simple' bike.


              Another option would be: make a compromise, buy Hornet 160R with CBS?

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              • #8
                Re: Looking for a safe mile munching machine

                Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post
                If you like r15 then you should go for it
                Originally posted by marmiteminer View Post
                Since you are slightly taller, R15 may not suit you. Also it has expensive spares and lacks ABS. It is not a 'simple' bike.
                R15 does not tick most of my critical criterias.. I'm just coming out of the temptation..


                Originally posted by marmiteminer View Post
                Mate, I strongly suggest you go for RTR180 ABS if you feel comfortable to ride on it. I just test drove it, its smooth, no vibes.

                I drove 3 RTR180's (new model) One was brand new, other was 5000Km run & another was abused & run 20,000km's. They are all decently refined.
                Thanks, marmiteminer. Very helpful...

                Originally posted by marmiteminer View Post
                Another option would be: make a compromise, buy Hornet 160R with CBS?
                I'm pretty sure that I want a dual channel ABS equipped motorbike.
                So, for my budget I'm left with these options:
                1) RTR 180 ABS
                2) RTR 200 ABS (if it gets launched within a couple of months)
                3) CBR 205R ABS (if I get really lucky to find a used one in Bangalore with my budget stretched a bit..)

                Thanks a lot for your inputs, guys!

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                • #9
                  Re: Looking for a safe mile munching machine

                  Hi All,
                  With all your guidance and inputs, I got a pre-worshipped 2012 CBR 250R ABS, with ~31000 KM on the odo.
                  Thank you All!
                  I'll share my experiences in a different thread.

                  Thanks,
                  A Amarnath

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                  • #10
                    Re: Looking for a safe mile munching machine

                    Congrats on your find.
                    Ride safe.
                    A bike on the road is worth two in the shed.

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