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  • Need a bike that can sustain test of time

    So, I am in market for a new bike and searching the internet to make best possible choice and for this have landed on this forum. I hope can get help here to make the best possible decision.

    A brief background about me, I am 25 year old, 6 ft in height and weight is about 90-95 kg little fat to be honest. Have previously owned pulsar 150 and royal enfield 350 classic. Right now have Rs. 2.5 lacs to spend on bike. The bike would be used for daily commute for 70km for delhi to noida and for weekend riding. Recently went on trip to spiti valley on classic 350 and planing a ride to Bhutan next year. With these things in my mind I started my search for new bike and the first bike everyone recommended was KTM 390. Did went to a showroom for a test drive 390 and found it to be extremely uncomfortable for long rides. Now other option I have are Benelli TNT 25 and Kratos VS 400.

    Benelli TNT 25: Test rode it found it comfortable. No ABS is down side but till now have experience with all non ABS bikes and have done some amount of touring never had any issue.

    Kratos VS 400
    : Have no idea about this but like report suggesting it is focused for touring so would be comfortable and spec or expected price goes is would be hell of an package.

    There are other bike in price range as CBR 250 and mahindra mojo but those just don't feel nice to me. Found it a little difficult that we so much less option in this price range.

    So, I decided now that will wait till vs 400 launch and then will chose between the two bikes.

    But a thought came to my mind that this could better be last bike that I will buy because I am 25 now and will get married till 28 as the norm goes in my family. So, I have 3 year biking left and after that with a wife my frequency taking out my bike for ride would surely be decreased. But still at that time in my life I would like to have a bike in my garage that I can take for ride whenever I want and can sustain the test of time. The bike should be maintainable and money is not an issue here as I have understood more you take care of the bike more it runs.

    So, the question arises can above two option be that bike (I have serious doubts about kratos 400) or I should try to stretch my budget to 4 lacs and buy a bike like Benelli TNT 300, Kawasaki Z250, Yamaha mt-03.
    Last edited by rowdown; 11-12-2016, 12:30 PM.

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    Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

    Query Approved

    Please format your post to make it readable. If you can wait, i would suggest to wait till March, get a better idea of what is and isn't in the market!
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    • #3
      Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

      MT 03 is not launching here. You can wait for the new Duke 390 or Kratos.

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      • #4
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        Best bike IMO to stand long years without issues is a Honda, but they don't have any bike in your category as the CBR250 is discontinued. You can wait until they introduce the new CBR, but there are other good options right now like RTR200 and Mahindra Mojo.
        If you intend to keep it for something like 10years then better to go with desi brands like Hero/Honda/TVS/Bajaj who have extensive service/spares availability.

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          Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

          Originally posted by sparky View Post
          Best bike IMO to stand long years without issues is a Honda, but they don't have any bike in your category as the CBR250 is discontinued. You can wait until they introduce the new CBR, but there are other good options right now like RTR200 and Mahindra Mojo.
          If you intend to keep it for something like 10years then better to go with desi brands like Hero/Honda/TVS/Bajaj who have extensive service/spares availability.
          CBR 250R discontinued? Source?

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          • #6
            Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

            I would suggest against a Bennelli. They have high maintenance costs, around 20k a year if you want warranty. The rear disc brake pads cost ₹4000 for the Bennelli TNT 25.

            The CBR 250 is not discontinued, one xbhp member got his bike delivered 3 days ago!

            If you take a closer look at the Honda CBR 250, you'll find that it has its strengths. Cheaper spares, less maintenance. Honda offers a extendable 5 year warranty, and costs less than a Bennelli. Take a longer test ride of the CBR250, and let us know.

            Do consider the Bullet 500 family, and the Yamaha R3.
            Last edited by leech; 11-12-2016, 02:53 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

              Originally posted by leech View Post
              I would suggest against a Bennelli. They have high maintenance costs, around 20k a year if you want warranty. The rear disc brake pads cost ₹4000 for the Bennelli TNT 25.

              The CBR 250 is not discontinued, one xbhp member got his bike delivered 3 days ago!

              If you take a closer look at the Honda CBR 250, you'll find that it has its strengths. Cheaper spares, less maintenance. Honda offers a extendable 5 year warranty, and costs less than a Bennelli. Take a longer test ride of the CBR250, and let us know.

              Do consider the Bullet 500 family, and the Yamaha R3.
              Test Rode CBR 250R before found its riding position not suitable for long rides. Moreover, I am not that into a full fairing bikes and like naked look more. I had Royal Enfield 350 classic and switching 500 don't seems as better option as most things are same and with those same problems that made me frustrated with the bike before.

              I agree with you that maintenance is little high for Bennelli but spending that much would guarantee a assured performance from the bike. That's what I mean when I say it should be maintainable.

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              • #8
                Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

                Originally posted by rowdown View Post
                Test Rode CBR 250R before found its riding position not suitable for long rides. .
                Are you sure about this statement, CBR 250R is one of the best sports tourers in the indian market.

                Benelli maintenance is on higher side. Have a look at the ownership thread.

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                • #9
                  Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

                  Originally posted by rowdown View Post

                  But a thought came to my mind that this could better be last bike that I will buy because I am 25 now and will get married till 28 as the norm goes in my family. So, I have 3 year biking left and after that with a wife my frequency taking out my bike for ride would surely be decreased. But still at that time in my life I would like to have a bike in my garage that I can take for ride whenever I want and can sustain the test of time. The bike should be maintainable and money is not an issue here as I have understood more you take care of the bike more it runs.
                  I will start with a little bit of OT discussion about the bolded part; First off we're of the same age. So, I have no place in saying what I am about to say and expecting it to stick, but imma say it anyway. I get the whole married by 28 thing. But if you have to marry a woman who results in the bolded part coming true, then buddy, you will be marrying the wrong woman. That is, of course, assuming that your passion for biking is a life long one. If you want to know if anyone is still riding as much as they want to after, the best example is the person who got the first TNT300 in xbhp a.k.a. the person who started the TNT300 ownership thread a.k.a @experimentalhead. He has a wife and I think a kid too. He rides whenever he feels the itch to ride. I avidly follow his travelogues and as a matter of fact, he even got selected into the final 5 of the wrangler true wanderer contest. I will stop here( and hope I have piqued you interest enough to go check out his travelogues and maybe get inspired to do the same).

                  Secondly, I want to address the italicised part - every bike is maintainable as long as you have the moolah, which you say you do (provided I understand you correctly when you say money is not an issue). If that is the case, the TNT300 is a good match for you(assuming you are okay with the price tag). It's a terrific vehicle as I come to understand. I follow the TNT300 thread avidly and the guys there have seen their fair share of issues with the bikes, but over time things have improved and finally things are sailing smooth for them. Like @leech said, be prepared to spend 20k a year on just the basic maintenance(oil and filter, periodic check ups, wash and stuff like that) of the vehicle, and quite a bit more on every spare you need(I heard the chain sprocket replacement costs 20k ) if you want this bike. BUT, the owners are happy with the quality of the vehicle - just read through the ownership thread.

                  Of course, if you are looking for a good bike around the 2.5L range, the TNT25 fits the bill perfectly - with all of the above applying to it too. Of course, you have to understand that you really don't know if the Benellis can stand the test of time in India - they only have been around for a year now. So if you are going to invest in one, you have absolutely no proof that the bike can serve you for as long as you want to. :P
                  Last edited by madhav766; 11-12-2016, 06:23 PM.
                  Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                  Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

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                    Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

                    There is no guarantee that nothing will go wrong with the Benellis even if you pamper the bike. A couple of guys had their stator coil go kaput with no fault of theirs.

                    Another guy had problems with the footpegs on a year old bike. I have nothing against the bike or company, but don't you think your future wife might question the logic of spending 60~80k for the maintenance of a motorcycle for 5 years, when other similar powered bikes have it at 30k or less.

                    If naked is your preference, The Kawasaki N250 is pretty hot too. Got a proven engine, good naked looks.


                    Madhav, I'm in a similar situation too. Parents looking out for 'suitable brides'. Thing is, there is no right or wrong woman, just components. Beauty, body, faithfulness, and maintenance. It damn near impossible to get a girl with all four. We have to compromise on certain components. [emoji6]

                    And then again, the case comes : would you rather spend more time with your wife and kids, with your bike lying neglected, or spend time with your bike, leaving your wife and kids neglected. Divorce is expensive, and worse, the chance of a friend taking advantage of a lonely housewife is high.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

                      Originally posted by leech View Post
                      Madhav, I'm in a similar situation too. Parents looking out for 'suitable brides'. Thing is, there is no right or wrong woman, just components. Beauty, body, faithfulness, and maintenance. It damn near impossible to get a girl with all four. We have to compromise on certain components. [emoji6]

                      And then again, the case comes : would you rather spend more time with your wife and kids, with your bike lying neglected, or spend time with your bike, leaving your wife and kids neglected. Divorce is expensive, and worse, the chance of a friend taking advantage of a lonely housewife is high.
                      That escalated quickly. [emoji13] Let's stick to bikes here. I think we're all a little underqualified to discuss divorce and cheating. [emoji16]
                      Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                      Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                      Break-in tension? Read this.

                      Love camping and riding? Google - On Rustic Routes.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

                        Wait for BMW G310GS if you can.

                        I have very similar requirements as the OP. Budget is 2.5 - 2.8 Lac but can stretch it to 3.5 Lac for the right machine.

                        • Honda CBR250R: Very reliable, decent power, proven machine, good brakes in the C-ABS version. Cheap to maintain. I was almost ready to buy this a month back but then decided to wait for EICMA.
                        • Mahindra Mojo: This is a joke. It looks super ugly (personal opinion) and the silencers look ridiculous. The bike has no USP.
                        • Bajaj Kratos 400: Unless Bajaj changed in the last year, I don't expect the build quality to the anywhere close to the Yamaha or Honda bikes.
                        • KTM Duke 390 (even the 2017 version): It is manufactured by Bajaj. I expect ordinary build quality (not too good nor too bad). For me, refinement and build quality > sheer power.
                        • Benelli: Too expensive to maintain.
                        • TVS Akula 310 (hoping this will be a sports tourer) and BMW G310GS: I think these are worth waiting for. If they use good quality parts, the bikes should not come cheaper than 2.4-2.5 Lac. They have the right amount of power, refinement and good brakes (if we go by the first impressions).


                        The dilemma is whether to just go for the CBR or wait for the G310GS (and Akula). Waiting will cost me at least 7-8 more months whereas going for the old CBR might make me regret my decision of not waiting for the G310GS and Akula if they turn out to be good! I can't make up my mind.
                        Last edited by siddhant; 11-13-2016, 05:30 PM.
                        2013-17: Yamaha FZ 16
                        2019-Present: 2018 Honda CBR 250R

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                        • #13
                          Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

                          BMW G310GS will be launched only by end of December 2017

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                            Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

                            Originally posted by daretodream View Post
                            BMW G310GS will be launched only by end of December 2017
                            According to overdrive, BMW G310R and 310GS will be launched together by April 2017. Basically in the current fiscal year.


                            This is the adventure tourer version of the G 310R. Powered by the same 313cc single-cylinder engine from the G 310 R which makes 34PS/28Nm. The BMW G 310 R ...
                            2013-17: Yamaha FZ 16
                            2019-Present: 2018 Honda CBR 250R

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                              Re: Need a bike that can sustain test of time

                              Originally posted by siddhant View Post
                              According to overdrive, BMW G310R and 310GS will be launched together by April 2017. Basically in the current fiscal year.
                              And delivery begins in June

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