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LOL do you know the sales figures of FZ & R15 in India ???[emoji16]

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Probably not comparable to platina.

But then none of the premium brands sell in high numbers.

Your smiley gives me a feel that next you may compare RE350 with honda CB300 going by sales figure formula.

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XBLADE is premium motorcycle . LOL [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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You cant expect a premium performance bike from a Japanese manufacturer to cost the same as Pulsar.
You get what you pay for.

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[MENTION=26482]arnuld[/MENTION]

People have started arguing about quality, brand etc without considering your past experience and requirements.

I am assuming that since you used to own a ct100b, you are quite spoiled in terms of comfort! Those 100cc commuters are absolute comfort monsters since they have light weight, sufficient low end torque, agile in traffic, super soft suspension.

I think you should buy a new motorcycle SOLELY based on comfort else you will start regretting your decision after buying a hard suspension bike like KTM or R15. You need to understand that purely sports oriented bikes are not designed for comfort at all! Only fanboys will defend sports bikes and say that they have toured hundreds of kms on sports bikes without back pain, which is a big fat lie! It is their adrenaline rush which prevents them from acknowledging the discomfort after a ride.

Also a test drive will never give you an accurate measure of comfort because while riding a TD, everything feels new and awesome, it's just not possible to measure comfort even if you keep think hard about it while riding. You only come to know about comfort once you ride a bike for too long and on at least 5-6 separate occasions. As per comfort, you should not consider these bikes: KTM, Yamaha, Bajaj, Suzuki. TVS, Hero and Honda will be good for comfort, choose a suitable model from these brands.

Also stop getting excited over new pulsars, Bajaj still makes IMBALANCED bikes, all of their crap bikes are front heavy, not centrally balanced. Bajaj just shoves a powerful engine in a homemade chassis without giving a crap about balance and WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION. In comparison, all Honda bikes are perfectly balanced. This property is crucial while riding in heavy traffic. You will often spot Bajaj riders struggling with the steering handlebar to keep it straight in traffic, then they are forced to accelerate hard in order to get a grip on the handling. As a result, bajaj owners are always forced to ride like a maniac in all conditions. I have bought several bajaj bikes for me and my brother and I am speaking from 15 years of experience.

I know bajaj fanboys will start bashing me right and left now, I don't care, they will understand the errors of their logic after they get matured say 15-20 years later!

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Yes rightly said , I too felt the same when I rode p150 for 6 years . After buying R15s , i felt the difference in riding! But the main pro of the Bajaj bike is that it offers more pillion comfort ! The reason why I bought p150 for the first time , because it was the cheapest 150cc that time ..

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Indian brands are cheaper. If pillion comfort is a must then better opt for single seat setup rather than split 1.

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Very well put. Awesome write-up. Surely impacted my decisions. I have included Hero and Honda in my decision.

RTR keeps on winning in every department almost. No matter from what angle we approach: riding, commuting, budget, comfort etc etc. I guess RTR 200 4V wil be the bike but I will test ride Xtreme 200 and let's see from Honda what I can buy.

CT100B is definitely a great bike to own. I don't know anything about adrenaline rush though, coz I never got that on high-speeds (did 72-75 few times on CT100B). All I ever get is "fear of accident" and that totally spoils the fun of riding for me. It is like asking someone to point a gun in my face and shoot me. That is how I feel about speed-freak-ing looking into the barrel of a gun, a gun which is gonna explode in your face and you will cease to exist. Death is another term. That is how I think of speed. I don't want to offend anyone on sport bikes or KTMs, it is my honest thinking laid down in front of you which is what you did with your reply. But I did get the Adrenaline in these 3 situations:

1. I sat once on KTM Duke 200 as a pillion, it was really good, the strength of the engine even at speed of 45-50 makes you feel whooooooaaa... It was back in 2014, I still cant forget it.
2. And I had some other kind of feeling (still adrenaline) when I sat as pillion on my friend's Impulse. It was amazing, in 2013. Can't forget this one too.
3. My CT100B touring on the outskirts of Hyderabad, it was really amazing. That slow riding of outskirts = no roads + bad roads + narrow village lanes/streets.

This grunt, this low-end-torque, may be that gives me adrenaline. CT100B does not have that much low-end torque to give city riding a good feel.

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Yes , that is why I chose R15s ‘s unibody over that MT15 , which has a joke seat ...

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Since you have that fear of falling, you should definitely get a perfectly balanced motorcycle. I too had that fear untill I rode superbikes (few rare occasions). Ultimately it is the IMBALANCED motorcycle which puts the fear in us, if I am riding pillion behind you on a superbike and shake the bike left and right you will still not feel that kind of fear because of the god-like balance and braking. I am making this point to help you understand the limitations in our cheap indian motorcycles.

I too think that apache 200V would be the best choice for you, it has got good comfort, ample low end torque, nice balance, smooth engine. Also, try and learn "counter steering" from youtube videos. It is the correct riding technique to lean-in and turn with confidence. You can start learning it on any motorcycle or even a bicycle! Only catch is that counter steering works above speeds of 30 kmph, below which it won't work and you will start falling in the direction of the push!

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How about Dominar 400?.2019 model has good reviews.

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Ohh...Your post worries me a little coz i have just bought Avenger street this month. I thought its the best bike in this price range. I'm not sure if that imbalance is the reason that i feel difficulty in stop go traffic ?[emoji54] can you share your experience about AVENGER street ?

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Avoid the Honda 160s if you prefer comfort. Although the riding position is very comfortable, the rear suspension is really hard.

The RTRs are indeed your best bet, although you could try the Honda Unicorn too.

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Your feel is very different than anyone else's feeling brother.
Avenger is a nice bike(my roommate had taken it to Leh-Ladakh and came back happy than ever).
Absolute no fuss, no nonsense attitude of the bike makes it a real good ownership experience.
What kind of difficulty are you facing? It is a long cruiser bike so don't expect the hot-knife-through-butter feel. It has a laid back approach.
Spend more time with the bike and learn its characteristics. Those who don't understand their rides tend to put a lot of negative vibes about it.
At that price point, there is absolutely nothing that holds up a hand against Avenger.
I ride a Pulsar 220F and trust me, I never ride like a man possessed all the time. The torque low down helps me all the time so no need to rev the nuts out of the engine.
Simple and plain mechanicals help the cause too.

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Yeah thats what I saw in almost all reviews before buying this bike. I spent months deciding this bike But I saw this comment about balance issue in all Bajaj bikes so thought otherwise. Till now there's no problem with my bike. Only the problem I face is bike goes to either one side in peak traffic while both feet on ground. Front brake is extremely responsive so sometime bike skids a little on gravel type of roads (even at very slow speeds like 5kmph).