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**satyenpoojary** · 06-17-2009, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by rockinggokul View Post

u ready 2 spend 72k for 125cc with fi!!

sorry but to sum up in one line :SHEER WASTE OF MONEY *(imo)

see if u want power go for apache rtr 180(75k otr),pulsar 180(72k otr)

mileage -gs150r,uni,or any 125cc.

both-gs150r
style-fz

STRICTLY IMO - fz neither has edge in performance nor in mileage only in style.see i guess ur literate enough to judge ur needs and come to a decision

whatever be it happy riding! and safe riding!!

lolz its so easy to throw your opinion on someone....!

the Stunner FI is a good package IMO.
BTW How many of us here at xBHP are 'aware' about the changes in the FI vs the Carb Version of stunner?

**insanebiker** · 06-17-2009, 05:30 PM

^ ^ Anything else other than the Fi Unit and the paint job?

Atleast a tacho?

AFAIK , Hell No.

**rockinggokul** · 06-17-2009, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by rishirazdan56 View Post

Hi there

I recently came across this forum while researching on various bikes available.. must say.. X-BHP ROCKS!!

I am total newbie in biking ( rode a spendour 6 months back) though i am used to driving 4 wheelers.. but after listening to many of my friends experiences i have finally decided to take the plunge and now actively looking for the bikes on the offering by the indian market..

Now i really want X-bhp to give its verdict!!..

My daily run will be around 45-55km.. Budget is around 75k.. i live in Pune

My basic requiremnts (in order of pref)
1-comfort
2-reliablity
3-good looks
4-after sale support
5-mileage 45+ is sufficient

After going through websites, reviews, friends opinons
i shortlisted the following (no order of pref here)

1-Fz16/S
2-Unicorn
3-Pulsar 180
4-Stunner

Looking forward to your replies..

DO HELP ME OUT!!

CHEERS!!

RISHI

P.S. My daily run will be around 80% on highway and 20% in city!

coming to ur needs the bike amongst u shortlisted i would suggest is
p180

reasons for discarding others:

fz16/s: doesn't meet ur fuel efficiency criteria but fulfills others

uni: too old,performance might be concern

stunner: u say 80%highway then no way i'd suggest a 125cc ,i don't think u want to be left behind the lot on road

why pulsar: right mix of performance and mileage.

-------------- get test drives of each one of them and go for the best

enjoy the headache!!!!!!1

**satyenpoojary** · 06-17-2009, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by insanebiker View Post

^ ^ Anything else other than the Fi Unit and the paint job?

Atleast a tacho?

AFAIK , Hell No.

And how did you deduce that?
Oh btw why do you think the FI unit is a simple thing to plonk...

Eat these for a few facts...
There are a zillion people outside India studying the R15 to get the FI unit from the R15 to plonk it in Vixion, t130... you think its as simple?

Lets talk about this more, when another 125CC bike comes up with the PGMFI on it.... till then lets be happy with Swirl Induction....

Fanboyism is good, but mud slinging is not....

**rockinggokul** · 06-17-2009, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

lolz its so easy to throw your opinion on someone....!

the Stunner FI is a good package IMO.
BTW How many of us here at xBHP are 'aware' about the changes in the FI vs the Carb Version of stunner?

SEE A PACKAGE CERTAINLY should give marks for COST VS FEATURES which i think the fi lacks.

afaik,the changes released by honda in their press release is

premium key,pgmfi,new paint job,handle bar weights,embossed logo, hmmmm....... can't remember anything more

and opinion --that's what we are here for

and it certainly wasn't something out of no where .

i would suggest furthur study for any verdict hence the IMO tag.

**insanebiker** · 06-17-2009, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

And how did you deduce that?
Oh btw why do you think the FI unit is a simple thing to plonk...

Eat these for a few facts...
There are a zillion people outside India studying the R15 to get the FI unit from the R15 to plonk it in Vixion, t130... you think its as simple?

Lets talk about this more, when another 125CC bike comes up with the PGMFI on it.... till then lets be happy with Swirl Induction....

Did i say it s simple? It s not only my opinion but of many other xBhpians here.Courtesy,that thread was closed the same day,cos everyone was feeling it s overpriced and as usual some fanboys couldnt digest that.

IMO it s over priced by large. If u cant digest a fellow biker's opinion,feel free to keep ur gob shut.

BTW u havent answered what other "Features" the Stunner Fi has over the carb'd one.

OT :

Fanboyism is good, but mud slinging is not....

This applies to u too.And this is the second time u r provoking me. Hell, what s ur problem? U say that i shouldn post in the RTR thread cos i dont own one?

@MODS: Hope u look at this.

**pranay** · 06-17-2009, 05:48 PM

Guys, lets chill it. Too much tension nowadays.

Everyone has their views. The sales performance of the new Stunner after some months will give us how well it was received. Let's help this xbhpian choose his new bike.

**satyenpoojary** · 06-17-2009, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by insanebiker View Post

Did i say it s simple? It s not only my opinion but of many other xBhpians here.Courtesy,that thread was closed the same day,cos everyone was feeling it s overpriced and as usual some fanboys couldnt digest that.

IMO it s over priced by large. If u cant digest a fellow biker's opinion,feel free to keep ur gob shut.

BTW u havent answered what other "Features" the Stunner Fi has over the carb'd one.

OT :

This applies to u too.And this is the second time u r provoking me. Hell, what s ur problem? U say that i shouldn post in the RTR thread cos i dont own one?

@MODS: Hope u look at this.

1) Doesnt that apply to you as well?
2) I never asked to you to stop posting anywhere dude... and why do you feel I am provoking you?
All I said is plain and simple, Honda has done a commendable job in getting the FI into a Commuters class.... It is like the introduction of Hybrids!

You have an opinion about the price, I have an opinion about the features to be a precise the FI....

**chauhan_saurabh** · 06-17-2009, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

the Stunner FI is a good package IMO.
BTW How many of us here at xBHP are 'aware' about the changes in the FI vs the Carb Version of stunner?

The features I listed in my last post is the mains ones there are others which you can't event make out and I am sure there must be million such inside the engine which I and most of us can not make out. So for me it is over priced by any means. On the same note: HH Glamour also has PGM FI version with 10k lesser price tag, if it's just FI which makes that much difference. Again, in Bangalore, Stunner FI cost as much as RTR FI which also has an FI but not from Honda

.

FYI: I was considering it to buy for myself, so I am not at all other bike maker fan or a Honda fan or an anti-honda.

Originally posted by rockinggokul View Post

see if u want power go for apache rtr 180(75k otr),pulsar 180(72k otr)

If FI is really important to you, add RTR FI in this list which costs almost same as Stunner FI.

**satyenpoojary** · 06-17-2009, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View Post

The features I listed in my last post is the mains ones there are others which you can't event make out and I am sure there must be million such inside the engine which I and most of us can not make out. So for me it is over priced by any means. On the same note: HH Glamour also has PGM FI version with 10k lesser price tag, if it's just FI which makes that much difference. Again, in Bangalore, Stunner FI cost as much as RTR FI which also has an FI but not from Honda

.

FYI: I was considering it to buy for myself, so I am not at all other bike maker fan or a Honda fan or an anti-honda.

If FI is really important to you, add RTR FI in this list which costs almost same as Stunner FI.

Absolutely agreed, Infact my hatred to Honda was evident on the old xBHP!
What I admired was Honda bringing in the FI and upping the ante for others in the commuters class.... Yamaha did something similar in another class....
Bajaj did something in another class\segment.... Subtle changes like these are whats changing the scene in the Indian biking scenario!

**rockinggokul** · 06-17-2009, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View Post

If FI is really important to you, add RTR FI in this list which costs almost same as Stunner FI.

followed the ownership thread for a long time when i was to shortlist a bike.

saw that the rtrfi owners have a huge set of problems but they have en christened these as bike's character and adopted "learn to live with it" attitude.
and IMO i don't see a reason as to why after paying SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND RUPEES you should compromise.when the same product is available in a trouble free variant and hence the suggestion

PS:i don't want to invite fury from rtrfi owners but just my opinion

and treating the original posters query as my own i poured down thoughts which went through my mind and hence the reply.

**chauhan_saurabh** · 06-17-2009, 06:16 PM

@Satyen

True, but price for that is steep, that's all what eveyone is saying.

If you see price difference b/w
- Glamour Carb and Glamour PGM FI, it's round 10k (and this has a honda PGM FI, first bike to fare FI in commuter segment)
- RTR Carb and RTR FI, it's around 8k with rear disc

but difference b/w
- Stunner FI and Stunner carb is around 14k

That's all what I meant to convey all along o.w. that would be a good bike and has around .6ps bump in power and some bump in mileage and top speed from the carb version, don't kill me if I remember it wrong.

**chauhan_saurabh** · 06-17-2009, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by rockinggokul View Post

followed the ownership thread for a long time when i was to shortlist a bike.

saw that the rtrfi owners have a huge set of problems but they have en christened these as bike's character and adopted "learn to live with it" attitude.
and IMO i don't see a reason as to why after paying SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND RUPEES you should compromise.when the same product is available in a trouble free variant and hence the suggestion

PS:i don't want to invite fury from rtrfi owners but just my opinion

and treating the original posters query as my own i poured down thoughts which went through my mind and hence the reply.

Absolutely correct and in fact, I am also skeptical about it. That's why I added it in my second post, first post just had Uni/GS as the suggestions.

**chauhan_saurabh** · 06-17-2009, 06:22 PM

^^^
That was not targetted to you .. you posted before I could reply to satyen

.. I had changed the post

**satyenpoojary** · 06-17-2009, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

1)
All I said is plain and simple, Honda has done a commendable job in getting the FI into a Commuters class.... It is like the introduction of Hybrids!

You have an opinion about the price, I have an opinion about the features to be a precise the FI....

Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View Post

@Satyen

True, but price for that is steep, that's all what eveyone is saying.

If you see price difference b/w
- Glamour Carb and Glamour PGM FI, it's round 10k (and this has a honda PGM FI, first bike to fare FI in commuter segment)
- RTR Carb and RTR FI, it's around 8k with rear disc

but difference b/w
- Stunner FI and Stunner carb is around 14k

That's all what I meant to convey all along o.w. that would be a good bike and has around .6ps bump in power and some bump in mileage and top speed from the carb version, don't kill me if I remember it wrong.

Yeah man, thats why the analogy with the Hybrids na.... Trust you are aware about the Civic Hybrids and what happened with them at launch and then after...

The Glamour and the Stunner are like Chalk and Cheese man!

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