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  • #31
    Originally posted by mitz View Post
    Hello Guys,

    Pulsar brothers: Reliability issues, uncomfortable 4 long rides, high maintenance

    Honda Unicorn:
    I really give a damn about looks or an outdated model. All I care is for a strong performer with best in class mileage for city commuting & hassle free maintenance with reliability.

    Bajaj Avenger:
    What I like about it most is that it lets you stand out from the rest of the crowd. Its wickedly awesome looks never fades away from my mind.
    Its a decent performer & very low on mileage ( ready to compromise mileage just for this one )
    Thanks.
    hI YOUNG MAN.,..
    to give an honest opinion, I feel ur views on each bike contradicts each another...First u say u dont care a damn about looks, then u say u want the avenger for her looks.
    Next u say u want strong performance and mileage but later say u forgive these two in the Avenger.
    Come on man....
    +1 to what every other senior member says here. Follow what ur heart says, Because it looks like u have already decided on the Avenger.

    But keep this in mind.
    Buy the Avenger and get prepared for ur
    Pulsar brothers: Reliability issues, high maintenance
    .. which will eventually happen even though u love her so much...

    Buy the Unicorn:
    This is like an arranged marriage. U will start loving her slowly and never regret.
    Now, i think my last few sentences contradict each other ???
    Last edited by Coplay@180; 08-16-2009, 03:46 AM. Reason: typo
    Never Argue with an Idiot !!!
    He will bring you down to his level and beat you with his experience.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by saisrinigan View Post
      I settled with uni...
      Originally posted by mitz View Post
      @abhijeet080808
      Dude, I can afford 75 k by now.. but a couple of months more & sure I can go upto 80-85 k if its worth the wait..
      I am really not sure if u can get a programmable Fuel injected Zma for 80-85k bro.

      Frankly, go in for the Uni dude...u will never feel bad when the Avenger's adrenaline rush is OVER.( it will, someday).

      PS: btw, I ride a Pulsar. I'm doing no marketing and stuff. Just giving genuine opinions
      Never Argue with an Idiot !!!
      He will bring you down to his level and beat you with his experience.

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      • #33
        in short
        first think what you expect from a bike ?
        a thrill machine or a lazy cruiser or a comfortable commuter with mileage or typical poser bike , etc .. depends on you
        think on that

        then find out which bike or bikes nearly fulfill your requirements or ask people here which ones do so
        then go ahead n test ride
        probably i recommend take a friends bike ... the model you have in mind and spin it around for some 15 - 20 mins
        or take test ride from showroom which is short but then no other option

        you yourself will clearly know the winner or at least winners
        then again you can consult here

        best of luck mate
        Hope is a good thing ,
        may be the best of things and
        no good thing ever dies .

        Get busy living or get busy dying .

        - The Shawshank Redemption .

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        • #34
          Originally posted by saisrinigan View Post
          I settled with uni...
          things stopped me from avenger
          -initial cost (diference of 10k = 200litres of petrol = 1.5 years of uni run)
          -maintenance cost
          -running cost (mileage...just imagine)(now 200++litres diff) (with that difference money u can run uni for 2+ years)
          -reliability ( u know wat wud I say here)
          I have driven avenger (friend's)- very comfi- the city drive wil get easier when used (as some one said earlier) feels like riding a car....but y do u want to feel like riding a car when u get a car for the same price (nano or 2nd hand alto or...)
          thats my personal opinion.
          Many times I have gone by heart (choices) and felt for it. The drive and craze for ur avenger wil end up the moment u buy it or sometime later. The resistance is because u have lot of oponents and u like challenges (no offense)
          come out of it - be practical... and listen to what ur mind says.....I also considered GS150 which while test drive reminded me the comfi of avenger....
          happy perplexing......
          Originally posted by Coplay@180 View Post
          hI YOUNG MAN.,..
          to give an honest opinion, I feel ur views on each bike contradicts each another...First u say u dont care a damn about looks, then u say u want the avenger for her looks.
          Next u say u want strong performance and mileage but later say u forgive these two in the Avenger.
          Come on man....
          +1 to what every other senior member says here. Follow what ur heart says, Because it looks like u have already decided on the Avenger.

          But keep this in mind.
          Buy the Avenger and get prepared for ur .. which will eventually happen even though u love her so much...

          Buy the Unicorn:
          This is like an arranged marriage. U will start loving her slowly and never regret.
          Now, i think my last few sentences contradict each other ???
          Originally posted by Coplay@180 View Post
          I am really not sure if u can get a programmable Fuel injected Zma for 80-85k bro.

          Frankly, go in for the Uni dude...u will never feel bad when the Avenger's adrenaline rush is OVER.( it will, someday).

          PS: btw, I ride a Pulsar. I'm doing no marketing and stuff. Just giving genuine opinions
          Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
          in short
          first think what you expect from a bike ?
          a thrill machine or a lazy cruiser or a comfortable commuter with mileage or typical poser bike , etc .. depends on you
          think on that

          then find out which bike or bikes nearly fulfill your requirements or ask people here which ones do so
          then go ahead n test ride
          probably i recommend take a friends bike ... the model you have in mind and spin it around for some 15 - 20 mins
          or take test ride from showroom which is short but then no other option

          you yourself will clearly know the winner or at least winners
          then again you can consult here

          best of luck mate
          @saisrinigan
          Hi dude, that was really a impressive disclosure of price & fuel consumption difference between u Uni & avenger..
          Plus I really dint kno ppl feel lik drivin a car when they ride Avenger (jus googled it & found a couple of reviews saying so) but i dont wish 4 a care dude, m satisfied wit jus 2 wheels 2 handle

          @Coplay@180
          Hey bro! thnx 4 d post.. I dint knew I was so contradicting myself .lol.
          Anyways I wud lik 2 clarify a few things here yaar:
          1)If it is for any other bike, my top priority wud b mileage,maintenance & reliability over looks
          2) As for looks, Lets b honest man, Avenger is not d best lookin bike out in Indian markets bro(in its price range).. In my opinion, R15 looks d best followed by P220 & then FZ or ZMA.. Obviously I hav budget constraints but frankly even if I had enough 2 spend, Avenger wud b on top of my wish list followed by P220/R15/ZMA
          3)sab kuch maaf (if u kno wat i mean ) 4 avenger.. I hav been thru 100's of negative reviews 4 avenger & got myself familiar with all d problems associated wit it but still I almost feel d same respect & love 4 avenger.
          4) Lastly, I jus pity myself on my inability 2 explian quiet vividly in words as to why I desire Avenger.

          Oh d nxt post is urs 2:
          SO hw bout d current ZMA, coz i wud always feel much comfortable with a tested & relied bike den betting upon a newly launched baby

          PS:
          I jus loved wat u quoted bout arrange marriage with Unicorn .lol. +1 bro Though m not one of d biggest believers of arrange marriage bt I totally agree on that 1 dude. & dats exactly y i m also considering Uni

          @outworldly maniac:
          Hi buddy, m pretty sure i wanna comfortable commuter wit mileage but i strongly feel v cannot call Bajaj Avenger a Lazy Cruiser yaar.. Its a machine with decent power i feel (atleast wen compared 2 Uni )

          As for the rides, I'v ridden a Uni so I'm quiet pleased with it & i kno I can do wit all that Uni has 2 offer me.. jus not lucky enough 2 lay my hands on Avenger yet.. (planning 4 a TD soon) Lets see how it goes
          Last edited by mitz; 08-16-2009, 01:35 PM.

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          • #35
            One really Important doubt i wanna consult wit all of u guys is:
            IS it true that all that craze, all that hype I'v created in my mind 4 Avenger, all that adrenaline rush on Avenger will soon faze out sooner or later once i buy the bike??
            M seriously giving this a thought now since many of my frnds hav said d same 2 me

            PS:
            I really dont think i wud get over my feelings 4 Avenger if i never buy it @saisrinigan

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            • #36
              Originally posted by mitz View Post
              One really Important doubt i wanna consult wit all of u guys is:
              IS it true that all that craze, all that hype I'v created in my mind 4 Avenger, all that adrenaline rush on Avenger will soon faze out sooner or later once i buy the bike??
              M seriously giving this a thought now since many of my frnds hav said d same 2 me

              PS:
              I really dont think i wud get over my feelings 4 Avenger if i never buy it @saisrinigan
              Exactly - you don't know whether you'll be happy or not with your choic until you've made it and experienced the aftermath. It is your first bike , buy the heart's desire this time. If you're happy with it well and good, if not , you'll emerger wiser and instead of blindly following your heart, will listen to your rational side more carefully in future. See, biking can teach you more than just biking.

              All the bikes made in India are largely commuters , some with sporting pretensions, some with cruiser pretensions. You will evetually get over the rush and want more. It probably will stop only once you have a bike with enough performance to scare you , like 750cc and over. But that said, the larger 200+cc bikes will easily keep you occupied for a year or two before you seriously feel lack of power.

              The price difference over the mind's choice ( Unicorn ) isn't very large. If you're happy with the Avenger's feel,performance and ride , you'll forget the dilemma . If not, what's the worst that will happen ? the bike may be a lemon but you have the warranty to tide you over. And if the Avenger throws no trouble but you still get bored , you can always sell it , add a few thousand more and buy the Unicorn which is a few grand cheaper than a new Avenger. If your financial situation permits , a larger bike like P220 or Karizma.
              Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on.

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              • #37
                If he is so much "In Love" with the Avy.. let him have one... you can never be rational when you go ahead and buy a 220/Avy/Zma/Bullet. I got the 220 because i fell in love. Aren't Bullets supposed to sell because people "Fall in Love" with them? Consider this one a lighter and more reliable bullet (My 2.5yr old Nephew calls all Avengers "Bajaj ki Bullet")

                After all you can choose to be rational and never ask out the cutest chick around in the fear that she wud say "NO".. but then you will always rue the fact that you never even tried..

                Go ahead, buy the Avy, and fall in love. You will know in a few months if it was in fact love or infatuation. And if it is the latter, you can always sell it off for good money and get yourself the arranged marriage(Uni..) but if it is the former, you will never regret your decision. Buying the Unicorn against what your heart desired will always leave an empty space remaining inside always thinking.. "What if???"

                Believe me, i was in love with the P220, and after 550km of running it in lovingly, taking utmost care i dont hurt it, I am falling in love with it all over again... and no.. i haven't ripped it even once as yet... thats what love brings in you.. patience..
                Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

                Antz Travelz!! | South India Exploration Ride | Leh Triplog (Work in progress)

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by mitz View Post
                  oh HH cbz or Humk?? further U say P220 is best bet so in dat case hw about a HH karizma?? I'm always more inclined towards HH then Bajaj. Karizma aint that good as new P220 but surely i cud wait a couple of months & get my hands on a new HH karizma. Wat say?
                  well between zma n 220 ,the updated and better 220 seems better . bajaj bikes are quite reliable and spares are also cheaper than Zma . the projectors ,tubeless ,led tail ,digi -speedo etc just cant be overlooked .
                  new Zma also coming with a seemingly much higher price so dont wait .

                  Choose betwwen 220 n Avenger . take rides of both
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Ricci View Post
                    Exactly - you don't know whether you'll be happy or not with your choic until you've made it and experienced the aftermath. It is your first bike , buy the heart's desire this time. If you're happy with it well and good, if not , you'll emerger wiser and instead of blindly following your heart, will listen to your rational side more carefully in future. See, biking can teach you more than just biking.

                    All the bikes made in India are largely commuters , some with sporting pretensions, some with cruiser pretensions. You will evetually get over the rush and want more. It probably will stop only once you have a bike with enough performance to scare you , like 750cc and over. But that said, the larger 200+cc bikes will easily keep you occupied for a year or two before you seriously feel lack of power.

                    The price difference over the mind's choice ( Unicorn ) isn't very large. If you're happy with the Avenger's feel,performance and ride , you'll forget the dilemma . If not, what's the worst that will happen ? the bike may be a lemon but you have the warranty to tide you over. And if the Avenger throws no trouble but you still get bored , you can always sell it , add a few thousand more and buy the Unicorn which is a few grand cheaper than a new Avenger. If your financial situation permits , a larger bike like P220 or Karizma.
                    Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                    If he is so much "In Love" with the Avy.. let him have one... you can never be rational when you go ahead and buy a 220/Avy/Zma/Bullet. I got the 220 because i fell in love. Aren't Bullets supposed to sell because people "Fall in Love" with them? Consider this one a lighter and more reliable bullet (My 2.5yr old Nephew calls all Avengers "Bajaj ki Bullet")

                    After all you can choose to be rational and never ask out the cutest chick around in the fear that she wud say "NO".. but then you will always rue the fact that you never even tried..

                    Go ahead, buy the Avy, and fall in love. You will know in a few months if it was in fact love or infatuation. And if it is the latter, you can always sell it off for good money and get yourself the arranged marriage(Uni..) but if it is the former, you will never regret your decision. Buying the Unicorn against what your heart desired will always leave an empty space remaining inside always thinking.. "What if???"

                    Believe me, i was in love with the P220, and after 550km of running it in lovingly, taking utmost care i dont hurt it, I am falling in love with it all over again... and no.. i haven't ripped it even once as yet... thats what love brings in you.. patience..
                    Originally posted by Lost Soul View Post
                    well between zma n 220 ,the updated and better 220 seems better . bajaj bikes are quite reliable and spares are also cheaper than Zma . the projectors ,tubeless ,led tail ,digi -speedo etc just cant be overlooked .
                    new Zma also coming with a seemingly much higher price so dont wait .

                    Choose betwwen 220 n Avenger . take rides of both
                    @Ricci;
                    Well that was a wonderful post bro!! It answered nearly all of my questions.. Problm is dat once I'v got myself a Avenenger, ther wud b no turning back atleast 4 a couple of yrs (family issues obviously) Plus I'v emphasized my love 4 avenger 2 such an extent that it wud b really embarassing 2 face my frnds & family in eyes while exchanging my Avenger with Uni (jus assuming)
                    ANyways, thats way ahead in future so i wont put unnecessary efforts thinking bout it. First things First!! Lets get myself a bike

                    PS: I can stretch my budget 4 a P220 or ZMA bt still I feel Avenger has a edge over them in my heart

                    @antz.bin
                    First of all, Congratz on ur P220 bro, its a gr8 buy.
                    Coming 2 d point, I dont need 2 buy d Avy 2 b in love with it bro, I'm already in love wit her
                    Bt ha, i wud definitely need 2 buy it 2 kno if its just an infatuation (like it happens always in my case, 4 girls)
                    Bajaj ki bullet .lol. Nice tag line by ur nephew.

                    @Lost Soul
                    Yeah I kno bout d list of amusing goodies that d new P220 has 2 offer very well bro.. Plus the On-road price is just 2 tempting, I mus say P220 was never my cup of tea. I never seriously thought bout it, bt in these couple of days, U guys over here hav really convinced me that P220 is a money's worth & definitely it deserves a serious attention on my part. Lets see, I dunno much bout P220 (coz i hav'nt tried 2 find out) bt nw i must hav a look into it. Thnx

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                    • #40
                      Thanks, glad to be of help .So your choice is made then ?

                      The Avenger may not be as refined or reliable as a Unicorn, but that's governed by chance. You do get reliable Bajajs and problematic Hondas too. There's no control over whether the bike you get is a gem or a lemon, at most you can superficially inspect ( PDI ) the bike before selecting.

                      I presume you will take a test ride before final decision . Better still try find someone who can let you ride the bike longer than a cursory short showroom test ride.

                      OT : like Matrix' Oracle says, you've already made the choice, now you've come here to understand why you've made that choice !

                      PS : don't worry about the possibility that later you exchange the Av for a Uni after proclaiming your love for the Avy. Those who matter won't shred you for admitting the Uni's a better choice, and it's better to change the wrong choice to right earlier than later. And the Avenger is around 72k , Uni around 64k. Even if you do have to sell the Avy, you won't have to add much more for the Unicorn if you're exchanging within the first 6-9 months.
                      Last edited by Ricci; 08-17-2009, 01:28 AM. Reason: added afterthought PS
                      Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on.

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                      • #41
                        man i dint call avenger actually lazy...
                        by lazy i meant not thrill giving or something .... just in its own world moving peacefully
                        sorry for confusion
                        no offense
                        Hope is a good thing ,
                        may be the best of things and
                        no good thing ever dies .

                        Get busy living or get busy dying .

                        - The Shawshank Redemption .

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Ricci View Post
                          Exactly - you don't know whether you'll be happy or not with your choic until you've made it and experienced the aftermath. It is your first bike , buy the heart's desire this time. If you're happy with it well and good, if not , you'll emerger wiser and instead of blindly following your heart, will listen to your rational side more carefully in future. See, biking can teach you more than just biking.

                          The price difference over the mind's choice ( Unicorn ) isn't very large. If you're happy with the Avenger's feel,performance and ride , you'll forget the dilemma . If not, what's the worst that will happen ? the bike may be a lemon but you have the warranty to tide you over. And if the Avenger throws no trouble but you still get bored , you can always sell it , add a few thousand more and buy the Unicorn which is a few grand cheaper than a new Avenger. If your financial situation permits , a larger bike like P220 or Karizma.
                          Thats a perfect idea.
                          I was in love with GS150 (after the test drive) like Mitz with avenger. If someone had advised me like ricci, then I wud be with a GS instead of Uni.
                          Never sold anything I possessed so far caz I m always in luv with watever I use.

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                          • #43
                            dude.. i suggest avenger if u r not too tall or too skinny, if u are tall,you could injure your back.. and if u t too lean.. ull look akward while riding it.. i guess its is called a fatboy motorcycle., ive been riding avy for more than 6 months.. and the experience is really out of the world.. it is a little tough to drive in traffic. but when it comes to long drives i dont think there is anything better,,, but still if u r not looking for a cruiser dont go for an avy for the looks..
                            ride hard or stay home....
                            *Ashwin*

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ricci View Post
                              Thanks, glad to be of help .So your choice is made then ?

                              The Avenger may not be as refined or reliable as a Unicorn, but that's governed by chance. You do get reliable Bajajs and problematic Hondas too. There's no control over whether the bike you get is a gem or a lemon, at most you can superficially inspect ( PDI ) the bike before selecting.

                              I presume you will take a test ride before final decision . Better still try find someone who can let you ride the bike longer than a cursory short showroom test ride.

                              OT : like Matrix' Oracle says, you've already made the choice, now you've come here to understand why you've made that choice !

                              PS : don't worry about the possibility that later you exchange the Av for a Uni after proclaiming your love for the Avy. Those who matter won't shred you for admitting the Uni's a better choice, and it's better to change the wrong choice to right earlier than later. And the Avenger is around 72k , Uni around 64k. Even if you do have to sell the Avy, you won't have to add much more for the Unicorn if you're exchanging within the first 6-9 months.
                              Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                              man i dint call avenger actually lazy...
                              by lazy i meant not thrill giving or something .... just in its own world moving peacefully
                              sorry for confusion
                              no offense
                              Originally posted by saisrinigan View Post
                              Thats a perfect idea.
                              I was in love with GS150 (after the test drive) like Mitz with avenger. If someone had advised me like ricci, then I wud be with a GS instead of Uni.
                              Never sold anything I possessed so far caz I m always in luv with watever I use.
                              Originally posted by ashi.cruz62 View Post
                              dude.. i suggest avenger if u r not too tall or too skinny, if u are tall,you could injure your back.. and if u t too lean.. ull look akward while riding it.. i guess its is called a fatboy motorcycle., ive been riding avy for more than 6 months.. and the experience is really out of the world.. it is a little tough to drive in traffic. but when it comes to long drives i dont think there is anything better,,, but still if u r not looking for a cruiser dont go for an avy for the looks..

                              @Ricci;
                              Yup!! I guess its Avenger in the lead.. Well jus let me take the TD in coming week & i shall seal the deal wit Avenger hopefully..
                              U r absolutely right bout ur Gem or Lemon theory I do kno a guy wit a damn problematic Unicorn.. Though the chances of gettin a gem is more wit Honda, bt I wud stayback & hope 2 get myself Avenger (the Gem)

                              @outworldly maniac:
                              Peace dude, No offense taken man.. m here 4 ur valuable suggestions so u hav a right 2 express ur views.. Plus u r right bout Avenger--> Its peaceful as I want it 2 be

                              @saisrinigan;
                              U think GS150 R is worth a TD?? I mean i kno its quiet good bt still is it @ par with the competition? (mainly in terms of after sales services)

                              @ashi.cruz62
                              lol.. I had especially mentioned my height & weight in my original quote jus coz of the same concern ( lik u said avenger being known as fatboy bike)
                              & i was still wondering that y dint any1 pop out this issue... Well my frnds say at nearly 6 feet, m bit too tall 4 avenger & similarly 65 kgs of weight seems very skinny 4 Awe!! However I saw sum1 say sumwher in his review bout Avenger, that it does'nt matter wat ppl think about how u look on ur Avenger, All that matters is hw u feel lik wen u r on Avenger..

                              PS: Anyways, u seem 2 love ur Avenger!! Jus wantd 2 kno bout d maintenance issues that i might face with Avenger

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by mitz View Post
                                @Ricci;
                                @saisrinigan;
                                U think GS150 R is worth a TD?? I mean i kno its quiet good bt still is it @ par with the competition? (mainly in terms of after sales services)
                                Please do TD the GS150 before going for avenger. I found it to be a blend of uni and avenger ( the ergonomics-sitting posture,handlebar and the 6th gear for cruising) . It has got good looks, the digi console, LED tailight with integrated turn indicators (they dont break easily), superb ergonomics and u feel like u already know the bike in the TD.
                                Please give me a feedback after u TD (if at all u TD).
                                I have the suzuki dealer in my viscinity and they were very friendly. I own a ZEN from suzuki stable and its known for zero maintenance, Zero Engine Noise (ZEN), best in class mileage, excellent handling and I have topped it to 150km/hr and the handling was amazing at such high speed. It has clocked 40k kms and the vibration, mileage and handling are as good as new. Recently did 135km/hr on the odo. cudnt do beyond that caz of traffic.
                                Last edited by saisrinigan; 08-19-2009, 12:00 PM.

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