When it comes to HH amd Bajaj it always treated as a WAR , no mater even if one is writing a review. Its depend on how one takes it.

Its not me having problmes. I know you where point to Nios post , I was referring to that. May be u didnt undrestand what I said and the thread starter wrote.

Agreed Even on my bike it more towards left. But I found it very scary on a 220 while we shifted the bikes in one of the ride. Being a known Issue I just highlighted it.

I frankly dont think I am miss leading any one here by giving wrong
or cooked up experice. What ever I wrote is my experience with 220 fi.

I am not talking about the Luminance. Its more on 220 compared with the stock itself. I am referring to the angle, comparitively its more inclined to left on a 220. Now changing the light from stock is mentioned since stock ZMA has less luminance as compared to 220. By doing this it can perform better than a stock 220 is my point without any danger.

I have run on other settings also, was not refering to recent ride experience.

It depends on how one use the breaks, pump and use it - there is no lack in punch. I never found not enough to stop at any speeds.

Compare maintanance cost of your bike with Mine/ Rahuls excluding the
crash repalcement so far.

Given a 220 and ZMA for free any day/night - I would go for a 200 FZ
I would go for a ZMA.

Awesome, reminds me of the good old days when I had bought my bike...



Keep it flowing biking brothers.....

wow this is really interesting i never knew these problems

P.S Its fastest indian will be the bike for you mate ZMA is kind of old now

When a certain naked bike vibrates, people say it's raw power! But when a Bajaj vibrates, people say it is bad quality. I invite you to ride my bike. Ask NV here. Does my bike feel like a two year old Bajaj? [touchwood]

The point is, if you take good care of your bike, even a Harley will be smoothest for you!
Go for 220 as the ZMR will only be a cosmetic makeover!

I had decided not to come into this thread again, but am stepping in to vindicate what Nitro has written.
Case 1: Yes, he has a 2 year old 220 that feels right out of showroom. No vibes at any RPM whatsoever.
Case 2: Ritwik has a 200 that feels butter smooth at all speeds and all RPMs
Case 3: My 220, over a year old is butter smooth at all RPMs.

All these bikes are ridden hard on weekends during our Lavasa outings.

Oops.. I didnt mean that.. I just felt it a bit biased to ZMA.. Still feel so.. Damn, Did I sound biased to P220??

HL.. I already agreed.. But there is a solution.. Raise the Low beam, bit too much + better light.. But I agree its not practical for all..

Shocks.. As I said ZMA is the best, but 220's is not waste

Brakes.. Again as I said, its all personal choice

I agree service charges 450/- for 220 and 150/- for ZMA.. But change of spares like disc pads and clutch are dependent on usage.. But yes it wont last as a ZMA.. Again it costs.. Thanks god that you have alternatives.. Plus, I have spent a lot, I dont follow "Dont change it if its not broken".. Again I had a set of issues, which made me spent..

1. All bikes have vibrations at certain range due to resonance. No vibes at any RPM means no engine, just check out !!
2. Kindly expand what 'butter smooth' is ?
3. Read 1 & 2

PS : There is no war b/w Zma and P220, it is created to make feel P220 is competition to Zma, but I feel Zma is undisputed king (w/o any bloodshed or war or whatever)

Please state how and why for the above statement in bold.

PS: When it comes 220 and ZMA its always been a war and always will be.

^^
B'cos it's a HONDA
PS : Almost 100% P220 owners would vote Zma over P220 when it comes to heart of the matter (engine) and overall reliability. I'm sure 'prafultripathy' will also vote to Zma when it comes to 'big' factor/s !!

1. Vibes as in troublesome vibes is what I meant. My bad that I did not compensate/elaborate in layman terms
2. Do I need to tell you this?
3. HAHAHA...pity you didnt understand simple three statements.

PS: No war BTW..ride more, talk less.

That's the difference b/w 6 year old Zma thread and three year old P220 thread on Xbhp.com

Well if you are ready to gobble anything dished out at you just because it happens to be from your favourite manufacturer, then that is entirely your choice!

Some sweeping statements there, did you imagine that '100%' figure in your head? Back it up with numbers dude.....

And I would never choose a ZMA over the 220. The R15 maybe, but never the ZMA....

For whatever the ZMA has to offer, there is better available in the market.


Btw the P220 has been around for just a little over 2 years now. How did you arrive at the 'three' years figure?

HAHAHA...speechless about your derivations

+1 on that Praful. I would never want to buy a ZMA even today nor for the coming decades cause I know all later ZMAs would be sticker jobs.

Exactly why I find statement like "Uni is a vibration free bike" hard to digest. Anyways, no offense, but most Honda engines in India sacrifice power for smoothness. And when they decide to try and match its competitors on the power front, results are bike like Hunk, Stunner etc which do have same vibes across the rpm range, as its competitors if not more! Where goes the superior metallurgy etc etc in such cases?

Anyways, it it OT here. No need to reply to this post.

Dont wanna cause a war here, but like ZMAs got sticker-jobs, Pulsars too got paint jobs n body transfers, n now half of the world cant even differentiate between highend pulsars n the lower ones...

PEACE

PS: Buying a ZMA/P220 is an individual choice, plz keep it upto urselves, a request.