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  • #16
    Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post
    Not true.....
    maybe, I hadnt been around a proper ripping 220-the fastest Indian

    Originally posted by hypergamer View Post
    My answers in bold
    With all due respect to the ZMA and irrespective of what tyres it is running I dont believe and accept that the 220 rear disk and the ZMA drum can be the same. Not at all I can bet that to anyone for that matter i would say a brand new ZMA rear brake is nowhere close to the 220 rear disk break which has done a couple of thousand.
    I dont think so, though 220F may have a bit of improvements.
    If you watch comparos of bikes on TV, you'll see even 220F is not much different. The rear discs are the same as old 220s, correct me if am wrong
    Here am talking about a general 220, not any particular version.

    The R15 has a huge speedo error and even with the race kit it does not exceed the 220 in top speed at all. I have done 156 on the speedo recently...
    220 (whatever version) got no speedo error you mean
    156 kmph : That alone shows the speedo error
    And anyways i dont think 220s speedo is better than R15s, though it maybe faster
    Last edited by spiderweb; 03-25-2010, 02:37 AM.

    The road of life twists and turns and no two directions are ever the same. Yet our lessons come from the journey, not the destination.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by spiderweb View Post
      Frankly speaking, I dint found 220's rear disc any better than ZMA's drum, both are none the less same. My ZMA-R runs with a sport demon at rear & I say it stops where a P220 will also stop



      Then i'd simply suggest R15, the best in India right now, a perfect tool. It'll simply leave any bike behind, though it takes it own time, but it got the max speed, even more than P220.
      I'v seen R15 going around 150kmph myself (I wasnt riding though)
      Only thing is it got no torque.

      P220, again i'll say it got the max torque out there, but you'll crib later about quality n comfort.

      Over to you.

      P.S: I hope I had confused you enough
      Originally posted by hypergamer View Post
      My answers in bold
      Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post
      You took it literally bro....

      But among all the bikes which come equipped with rear disc brakes...Pulsar 220s would fall next to last....
      Arre yaar, simple, lets just meet up, im also running sport demon on my front and rear, lets go upto 80 and brake, and lets see how much distance is needed, simple why to argue yaar.
      The topics starter will be extremely happy with this kind of spoon feeding
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      • #18
        Originally posted by spiderweb View Post
        I dont think so, though 220F may have a bit of improvements.
        If you watch comparos of bikes on TV, you'll see even 220F is not much different. The rear discs are the same as old 220s, correct me if am wrong
        Here am talking about a general 220, not any particular version.

        220 (whatever version) got no speedo error you mean
        156 kmph : That alone shows the speedo error
        And anyways i dont think 220s speedo is better than R15s, though it maybe faster
        1) Well the 220 definately has been improved and obviously you cannot generalize a 220 because the earlier 220 DTS- Fi was a different machine and the 220 F is a different one altogether. I agree the rear disks are the same but the brake pad quality has been improved along with the disk plate design in terms of the holes in it. I agree the rear brake squeaks but just one reason is not enough to compare it with any drum brake.

        And it makes a lot of sense to me when am talking about the latest version of the 220 beacuse if he buys a 220 he will get the latest version not the one which was available 2 years back

        The 220 F has a speedo error agreed but no as huge as the R 15 also even if you compare the true speeds of the R 15 to the 220 in bike india the R 15 lags behind so yes there was a correction for you here

        PEACE


        1984 YEZDI 250 CLASSIC My dads SBK
        1987 YEZDI 250 CLII On a Vacation!!!!

        2005 Pulsar 150 UG 2 with ma cousin
        2006 Pulsar 180 UG 3 - For Experimenting
        2007 Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi SOLD
        2010 Pulsar 220 DTS-i - Sold
        2015 PULSAR AS 200 - Sold
        2013 KTM DUKE 390 - Current Ride


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        • #19
          Originally posted by abhayshanu View Post
          Arre yaar, simple, lets just meet up, im also running sport demon on my front and rear, lets go upto 80 and brake, and lets see how much distance is needed, simple why to argue yaar.
          The topics starter will be extremely happy with this kind of spoon feeding
          You want to break at 80, god be with you
          Emergency braking is a different matter, free-fokat ka risk is not my cup of tea

          Topic started will be biting his pillow by now...


          Originally posted by hypergamer View Post
          1) Well the 220 definately has been improved and obviously you cannot generalize a 220 because the earlier 220 DTS- Fi was a different machine and the 220 F is a different one altogether.
          Agreed

          I agree the rear disks are the same but the brake pad quality has been improved along with the disk plate design in terms of the holes in it. I agree the rear brake squeaks but just one reason is not enough to compare it with any drum brake.
          I still wont believe you here unless I ride an F version

          2) And it makes a lot of sense to me when am talking about the latest version of the 220 beacuse if he buys a 220 he will get the latest version not the one which was available 2 years back
          Dont start with that, its called brand war... though i agree its old & hence not in comparison, I know that, thank you.

          3) The 220 F has a speedo error agreed but no as huge as the R 15 also even if you compare the true speeds of the R 15 to the 220 in bike india the R 15 lags behind so yes there was a correction for you here
          If you havnt noticed, I wrote that 220F maybe faster than R15.
          Answers in bold
          Last edited by spiderweb; 03-25-2010, 02:59 AM.

          The road of life twists and turns and no two directions are ever the same. Yet our lessons come from the journey, not the destination.
          ~ Spiderweb

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          • #20
            For r15 vs 220 acceleration and braking distance comparo, please refer to Bike India August 2009 Issue page 65.

            That will definitely clear out some "facts" and then we might have a healthier conversation rather than bashing the poor bikes.
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            • #21
              I still wont believe you here unless I ride an F version

              You need to actually ride it ........

              And it makes a lot of sense to me when am talking about the latest version of the 220 beacuse if he buys a 220 he will get the latest version not the one which was available 2 years back

              I really dont see how that statement started brand wars also in my earlier post i had clearly mentioned two words PEACE and no disrespect to other bikes. If it still starts a brand war god help us all

              You want to break at 80, god be with you
              Emergency braking is a different matter, free-fokat ka risk is not my cup of tea

              Now that clearly states how it feels to break on the ZMA R at 80 where as look at the 220. No brand comparison but clear common sense that even a not so good (as considered by you) rear disk break of the 220 can be a boon compared to any drum.....

              Again PEACE


              1984 YEZDI 250 CLASSIC My dads SBK
              1987 YEZDI 250 CLII On a Vacation!!!!

              2005 Pulsar 150 UG 2 with ma cousin
              2006 Pulsar 180 UG 3 - For Experimenting
              2007 Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi SOLD
              2010 Pulsar 220 DTS-i - Sold
              2015 PULSAR AS 200 - Sold
              2013 KTM DUKE 390 - Current Ride


              Whats next Probably An Inline 4.


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              • #22
                Originally posted by abhayshanu View Post
                Arre yaar, simple, lets just meet up, im also running sport demon on my front and rear, lets go upto 80 and brake, and lets see how much distance is needed, simple why to argue yaar.
                The topics starter will be extremely happy with this kind of spoon feeding
                Originally posted by spiderweb View Post
                You want to break at 80, god be with you
                Emergency braking is a different matter, free-fokat ka risk is not my cup of tea

                Topic started will be biting his pillow by now...
                If I had the moolah to buy both the bikes or be allowed to do an emergency stop from 80 to 0 during a test ride,then I wouldn't be posting this query on a forum hoping to be spoon fed numbers. Members shouldn't take risk and try out their claims in real life.
                Thanks for your support anyway. Appreciate it.
                Mods can close this thread. I can decide on my own now.
                Last edited by nightwing; 03-25-2010, 03:11 AM.
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                • #23
                  I really dont see how that statement started brand wars also in my earlier post i had clearly mentioned two words PEACE and no disrespect to other bikes. If it still starts a brand war god help us all
                  Dude, you took my words literally

                  @Nightwing: Sorry man, Am out of this thread...
                  Last edited by spiderweb; 03-25-2010, 03:31 AM.

                  The road of life twists and turns and no two directions are ever the same. Yet our lessons come from the journey, not the destination.
                  ~ Spiderweb

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                  • #24
                    Bike India Aug_09 Issue

                    check the link, page 65....r15 n 220, 0-100-0 distance and time. No need to break or legs in such attempts.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by spiderweb View Post
                      I really dont see how that statement started brand wars also in my earlier post i had clearly mentioned two words PEACE and no disrespect to other bikes. If it still starts a brand war god help us all
                      Dude, you took my words literally

                      You want to break at 80, god be with you
                      Emergency braking is a different matter, free-fokat ka risk is not my cup of tea
                      Now that clearly states how it feels to break on the ZMA R at 80 where as look at the 220. No brand comparison but clear common sense that even a not so good (as considered by you) rear disk break of the 220 can be a boon compared to any drum...
                      Now here, you are literally taking things to a different level. I never said am scared to brake at 80, I simply mean that am not some lunatic rider who loves to race, drag, stunt, risk for no reason. I simply dont want to do that, i had braked at even 100, but that was when needed. I hate people who start dragging n braking to show how superior is their bike.
                      But as stuborn as I am, I'll surely prove a point to you that your 220 is not better than what I ride, not even faster, though its not... JUST FOR FUN
                      Lets do a Amby ride soon
                      PEACE
                      Anytime am game for a amby ride as it is we have a G2G on friday and sunday and you re more than invited. Lets see what can be faster than the fastest indian

                      9768080806

                      Waitin......

                      All for fun bro no personal wars and mods sorry for the OT

                      hope you come on anything except the ZMA - R unless its is bored !!!


                      1984 YEZDI 250 CLASSIC My dads SBK
                      1987 YEZDI 250 CLII On a Vacation!!!!

                      2005 Pulsar 150 UG 2 with ma cousin
                      2006 Pulsar 180 UG 3 - For Experimenting
                      2007 Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi SOLD
                      2010 Pulsar 220 DTS-i - Sold
                      2015 PULSAR AS 200 - Sold
                      2013 KTM DUKE 390 - Current Ride


                      Whats next Probably An Inline 4.


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                      • #26
                        LAST POST

                        Originally posted by Harmeet View Post
                        Bike India Aug_09 Issue

                        check the link, page 65....r15 n 220, 0-100-0 distance and time. No need to break or legs in such attempts.
                        Thanks bro
                        Anyways i dont indulge in such activities, I dint meant it literally.

                        P.S: I know I got a slow bike

                        @Hyper: Not in Mumbai right now, will soon see you, not for a race, just for a g2g.

                        @MODS: Sorry for the OT.
                        Last edited by spiderweb; 03-25-2010, 03:29 AM.

                        The road of life twists and turns and no two directions are ever the same. Yet our lessons come from the journey, not the destination.
                        ~ Spiderweb

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by spiderweb View Post
                          LAST POST


                          Thanks bro
                          Anyways i dont indulge in such activities, I dint meant it literally.

                          P.S: I know I got a slow bike

                          @MODS: Sorry for the OT.
                          Hope you did not take it literally

                          Just another discussion !!!!

                          Back to the topic


                          1984 YEZDI 250 CLASSIC My dads SBK
                          1987 YEZDI 250 CLII On a Vacation!!!!

                          2005 Pulsar 150 UG 2 with ma cousin
                          2006 Pulsar 180 UG 3 - For Experimenting
                          2007 Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi SOLD
                          2010 Pulsar 220 DTS-i - Sold
                          2015 PULSAR AS 200 - Sold
                          2013 KTM DUKE 390 - Current Ride


                          Whats next Probably An Inline 4.


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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by spiderweb View Post
                            You want to break at 80, god be with you
                            Emergency braking is a different matter, free-fokat ka risk is not my cup of tea
                            ROTFLAMO, you made my day Spidy.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by spiderweb View Post
                              LAST POST


                              Thanks bro
                              Anyways i dont indulge in such activities, I dint meant it literally.

                              P.S: I know I got a slow bike

                              @Hyper: Not in Mumbai right now, will soon see you, not for a race, just for a g2g.

                              @MODS: Sorry for the OT.
                              Bro you have a PM


                              1984 YEZDI 250 CLASSIC My dads SBK
                              1987 YEZDI 250 CLII On a Vacation!!!!

                              2005 Pulsar 150 UG 2 with ma cousin
                              2006 Pulsar 180 UG 3 - For Experimenting
                              2007 Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi SOLD
                              2010 Pulsar 220 DTS-i - Sold
                              2015 PULSAR AS 200 - Sold
                              2013 KTM DUKE 390 - Current Ride


                              Whats next Probably An Inline 4.


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                              • #30
                                Stock P220 is better than the stock ZMA-R/ZMR in sheer performance

                                Actually, the P220 does leave the ZMA-R and the ZMR far behind on the performance front, at least. I'd love to join in for this amby ride as well. What say, Kailash?
                                Last edited by Uttam Gala; 03-25-2010, 06:43 PM.
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