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**Sunny** · 05-24-2010, 02:50 PM

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**dcs** · 05-24-2010, 03:09 PM

One of the strangest query on xBhp of ages I must say.

Well, I wonder how can anyone be indecisive between these two bikes which belong to almost two different cult.
Bullets are thumpers, low revving, bloody torquey bikes that have been the first choice of a lot of tourers. Has almost no plastic parts, though has few reliability issues.

Yamaha R15 on the other hand is one of the latest machines that we have on the Indian roads. Its almost 85% plastic ( towards the outer), slightly track oriented, lesser torquey and excellent fast machine. Reliability has still not been a concern with R15.

You definitely will get some useful information and advice on this forum but before that we would appreciate you to decide the kind of bike you are looking for. It would be pretty unfair to start comparing or deciding upon these two poles apart machines.

All Cheers

dcs

P.S: Anytime when I am producing a movie and I have the funds with me, it would be slightly insane if I start deciding upon whom to cast as hero? Shahrukh Khan or Naseerudin Shah? though both are ACES in their own field.

**vikram kumar** · 05-24-2010, 03:49 PM

Well im approximately the same size as you are.
I personally own an R15 and really enjoy the bike..
to be frank i have never ridden a bullet before so i cant comment on that bike but what i can do is tell you more about the R15.

1st of all its a great looking bike and it turns heads wherever it goes.
It handles like a dream.
not too much of maintainance required..
quite reliable
and powerful too..
so i would suggest you to go for the R15
cheers

**sanchit223** · 05-24-2010, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by dcs View Post

One of the strangest query on xBhp of ages I must say.

Well, I wonder how can anyone be indecisive between these two bikes which belong to almost two different cult.
Bullets are thumpers, low revving, bloody torquey bikes that have been the first choice of a lot of tourers. Has almost no plastic parts, though has few reliability issues.

Yamaha R15 on the other hand is one of the latest machines that we have on the Indian roads. Its almost 85% plastic ( towards the outer), slightly track oriented, lesser torquey and excellent fast machine. Reliability has still not been a concern with R15.

You definitely will get some useful information and advice on this forum but before that we would appreciate you to decide the kind of bike you are looking for. It would be pretty unfair to start comparing or deciding upon these two poles apart machines.

All Cheers

dcs

P.S: Anytime when I am producing a movie and I have the funds with me, it would be slightly insane if I start deciding upon whom to cast as hero? Shahrukh Khan or Naseerudin Shah? though both are ACES in their own field.

I understand that these two machines are quite different from each other and as such I can't ask you to compare them. But if you had read my post carefully you would have understood that I am not asking for a comparison.

I like C5 and but I see some issues with it. I have my concerns regarding build quality and I just wanted go ask how valid they are. If these problems are very common I would rather go for another bike. That's where R15 comes into picture as the lone competitor for C5 as this is the only other exciting bike in the market in my price range.

**Satyamzma** · 05-24-2010, 06:00 PM

i think Bullet will be a better bike...because there is no alternative to bullet in India

.. nowadays Enfield bikes are better in Quality also.

**Parth** · 05-24-2010, 06:04 PM

Other might find this thread a bit wierd, but not me. Why?? Coz I went through the same questions a few months back.

I'm 5'8" 67kgs, so we are pretty much the same built wise. When I was on the lookout for a steed for myself, I was looking at the T-bird or the 15.

I brought the R15 home on the 14th of this month. The reasons that I made that choice being:

1. The T-bird would've just been too big for me. It would've looked as if I'd asked my elder brother's bike for a ride everytime I rode it.

2. The R15 is a reliable machine. About the reliability of the RE bikes....well my uncle(mama) used to have a '63 bullet and he was a complete No-No when I told him that I'm considering a RE.

3. the R15 maybe a high revving machine, but you don't really need to rev her everytime you want to ride her......I'm still running my bike in so keeping her less than 4k rpm....It's not as if she overwhelms me with her power, nor is it as if she's slower than any other 150 cc bike on them red-light motoGPs.......

4. The weight: We both not being the body-builder type of guys, a lighter vehicle will suit us both better than something that weighs in excess of 180kgs. Although the weight of the vehicle only comes into play when She's standstill or at very low speeds or in case of a fall and you have to pick her up again, but it does matter.

So take your pick.....you can't go wrong with either of them......just look at your priorities and decide which one you'd be happier in riding.

Best of luck

**JitenMistry** · 05-24-2010, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by sanchit223 View Post

Hi guys

After years of waiting I can now buy a bike of my choice. My price range is 1-1.5lac. However I am not sure which bike to go for - another Heart vs Brain fight.

I am looking for a machine that can keep going for miles and miles at an easy pace without breaking down and brings out the joy of riding. I am 5'7", 65 kg, stated riding on the good ol splendor. I have some experience on Pulsars, hunk and a few other bikes in 100-150 cc segment (isn't that what friends are for?)

My heart was set on C5 the day I saw it. Actually the one-sided love affair with Bullets stated with my uncle's bullet when I was hardly 5 but that's another story. In spite of my not particularly heavy built body I am somehow confident that handling this thumper won't be too difficult. The only thing that puts me off is build quality, maintenance and reliability. I had a habit of regularly adjusting every last nut and bolt on my splendor and checking it's effect. Even though an Enfield is an entirely different class I think I can learn to do the basic tuning and maintenance on C5 too, but the the posts on C5 ownership thread regarding the build quality of Enfields simply scared the hell out of me.

The second bike I am considering is R15, I don't like to rev my bike hard (I so wish Yamaha comes out with a 200-250 cc bike soon) but the exceptional handling, quality and reliability does it for me.

The looks of Karizma and Pulsar 220 simply don't excite me and thus are out of equation.

I would appreciate any help in deciding the right choice for me.

I thinks, here I can see that your more concern /worried about C5 maintenance and after sales service. I think you fall in love with C5 at 1st sight, so go for C5 and take care your baby after ward.

**niks_devil666** · 05-24-2010, 09:34 PM

Its a clear choice , Classic any day any time. It will simply give you more joy of riding. Unless you are a cornering junkie , R15 will not make the cut. Listen to your heart

BTW , C5 and '63 bullet are poles apart in terms of performance and reliability.

**subushady** · 05-26-2010, 10:52 AM

Enfield all the way

Dude,
Go for the Classic 500. Its an awesome machine.

I am too build the same way that you are. Thin and lean and I own a Bullet STD 350.

If you want a tourer then go for the Classic and if you want to zoom past in the city, crossing the lanes zig-zag then go for R15.

In the long run you will enjoy the Classic much more and 500 cc is simply awesome.

All the best.

Regards,
Subu.

**sanchit223** · 05-26-2010, 11:08 AM

I looked at ownership experience of some more people and it appears that C5 is not just all bad news, it looks more like a lottery to me - you don't know what you are going to get.

However there are many people who can help with these issues and that boosts my confidence in this bull. Additionally I read about some new swing arm being tested by RE (expected to appear in production in a couple of months), if that's true then they are surely listening and that brings hope

**harishkumarko** · 05-29-2010, 10:33 AM

Hi sanchit

,

Clearly you have asked for a bike that can cruise. Well I won't say that R15 can't cruise but bulls are built to do so. Yes I too feel R15 is more reliable. But I feel a biker needs to take challenges. My KB100 has given me a ot of troubles but I still love it

. Well bulls won't give that big problems. Not these days atleast. RE has notched up its build quality. You won't have much problem I guess. And the 500 is one hell of a bike. It nice,sturdy and powerful machine

.

Coming to the 15. It is great on it's own side . Easy to handle in the city than the bull. Handles like no other bike in India(don't include the ninja).
Extremely sporty

.

But I see that your confusion is over reliabilty factor. Well it depends on your care too. If you can take the small pinches that the bull "may" give you then, go for it. You will definitely not regret it. Also it depends on the place you live in. Check the dealer's service capibilty with the locals. Both the bikes require top quality service

.

Choose wisely......

**princesirohi** · 05-29-2010, 11:41 AM

R15 is definitely a better bike and there are no reason not to buy one...........but personally i feel.........everyone who loves biking ......must own bullet atleast once in his lifetime ...........

**skyknight19** · 05-29-2010, 12:26 PM

well a dealer in Pune has told a friend of mine that RE is not taking bookings of classic 500/350 until December 2010.

**JAKRAP** · 05-29-2010, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by sanchit223 View Post

Hi guys

After years of waiting I can now buy a bike of my choice. My price range is 1-1.5lac. However I am not sure which bike to go for - another Heart vs Brain fight.

I am looking for a machine that can keep going for miles and miles at an easy pace without breaking down and brings out the joy of riding. I am 5'7", 65 kg, stated riding on the good ol splendor. I have some experience on Pulsars, hunk and a few other bikes in 100-150 cc segment (isn't that what friends are for?)

My heart was set on C5 the day I saw it. Actually the one-sided love affair with Bullets stated with my uncle's bullet when I was hardly 5 but that's another story. In spite of my not particularly heavy built body I am somehow confident that handling this thumper won't be too difficult. The only thing that puts me off is build quality, maintenance and reliability. I had a habit of regularly adjusting every last nut and bolt on my splendor and checking it's effect. Even though an Enfield is an entirely different class I think I can learn to do the basic tuning and maintenance on C5 too, but the the posts on C5 ownership thread regarding the build quality of Enfields simply scared the hell out of me.

The second bike I am considering is R15, I don't like to rev my bike hard (I so wish Yamaha comes out with a 200-250 cc bike soon) but the exceptional handling, quality and reliability does it for me.

The looks of Karizma and Pulsar 220 simply don't excite me and thus are out of equation.

I would appreciate any help in deciding the right choice for me.

Well Sanchit, this is exactly the dilemma i was in around Sep 2007. Had to make this decision of either a bullet (the classic was not around then, so it was either the electra or the machismo) or an R-15. The whole problem was i was 5'9" and weighed hardly 63 kilos at that time

. The R-15 would have suited me ideal but not sure about the bullet.

And thats where the problem with all newbies are. They go by the perception that you would need a heavy build to ride a bullet. Well its kinda of scary initially but once you get used to the bike, its awesome to ride it and for the unpredictable roads its a boon. Its a good offroader and majors bumps, pot holes in the road are no issues for this bike. Infact the lighter you are the better its to manouevre the bike. You can even jump around the seats on the corners at high speeds and its quite fun. Your build is only tested at extremely slow manouvres at slow speeds which might happen once in a blue moon.

About the R-15, i am not too sure though since I own a Ninja 250-R too, i guess it would be in the same mould. Give it smooth roads and then you see why the R-15 is good. These bikes can only be ridden on good tarmacs and if you are a tourer who needs to cover both good and bad roads, R-15 is not the bike for you. Only the bullet can take that kind of beating.

So if you got miles to go and you are uncertain of the roads go for a bullet. If you have miles to go and is certain of the roads, then go for the R-15.

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