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    Help me choose a bike..

    Hey guys.I'm new to xbhp. I'm planning to buy a new bike and need some help choosing one. I have short listed some :- P180,P150,RTR180 and RTR160 FI. I'm currently leaning towards the pulsar but that can be changed. My main criteria are performance, ride, handling, maintenance and after sales service. Mileage is not that important and the budget cap is 75k after registration. Please help as I want to book it next week. Thanks.
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    • #3
      if i were u i will pick the rtr180,the bike which compete with higer cc bikes in performance,make a good choice bro
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      • #4
        Pulsar 180 and RTR 180 are the only competitors now. RTR has a peppy engine than Pulsar 180. Both of them will give almost same mileage.
        RTR's plus points are:
        1) Rear disc Brakes
        2) Good power
        3) Higher torque
        Negatives:
        1) Vibrations
        2) Skinny tyres and adding to that a pathetic grip.

        Pulsar 180 plus:

        1) Higher stability as compared to RTR at any speed
        2) Almost no vibes.
        3) Good 120 section rear tyre that provides sufficient grip.
        4) All DC electricals.
        Negatives:

        1) No rear disc brake.
        2) Not as much peppy as RTR.

        I own Pulsar 180 UG4 version and I am happy with that.
        Last edited by abhichotu.abhi; 06-13-2010, 12:35 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
          RTR 160FI is discontinued
          Source of this INFO?

          And RTR180 is not having the SKINNY tire, the front is good 90/90 and the rear is 110 which is more than adequate for a 180CC machine.

          The point is it's got BAD tires
          Last edited by rennycornelius; 06-12-2010, 11:41 PM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
            RTR 160FI is discontinued.
            Atleast the TVS website still shows RTR 160 FI in their products catalog.
            I read that the P180 now comes without kick start option. Is the electric start so reliable?? I am an occasional tourer. So will the RTR's sporty sitting posture be a problem for long journeys?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
              Source of this INFO?

              And RTR180 is not having the SKINNY tire, the front is good 90/90 and the rear is 110 which is more than adequate for a 180CC machine.

              The point is it's got BAD tires
              Sorry for that(Now corrected in my post). I read that on a thread here only. I thought that it was written to perfection. But, considering the power delivery of RTR, I never felt that 110 are adeaqute. They must have given it 120, a 110 on a low height bike almost looks like a Luna from some angles.
              Originally posted by steelbreeze View Post
              Atleast the TVS website still shows RTR 160 FI in their products catalog.
              I read that the P180 now comes without kick start option. Is the electric start so reliable?? I am an occasional tourer. So will the RTR's sporty sitting posture be a problem for long journeys?
              Yes, Pulsar 180 has no kick start. No problems, always the bike starts in 1st crank. If you are a tourer then go for Pulsar 180, as it has good grip, Fatter forks that provide high speed stability better than RTR + Pulsar 180 shares most of its parts either with 200 or 220 and older generations UG3. so, parts availability is not a problem in small town\cities too. I am not confirmed about RTR though.

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              • #8
                so the P180 it is?
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                • #9
                  u can try the new Honda Dazzler rite
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                  • #10
                    nah....i am kinda phobic to the hondas :P.. dont know why..

                    by the way can people share common problems faced by P180 and RTR 180 owners??

                    Also, I have heard that the pulsar's overall build quality is deteriorating..Is that correct??
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
                      considering the power delivery of RTR, I never felt that 110 are adeaqute. They must have given it 120, a 110 on a low height bike almost looks like a Luna from some angles.
                      NO.

                      OT:

                      The power delievery of RTR reqires a soft compound and good tires, not a broad tire.

                      A 180CC bike does not require a 120 section rear tire, nor does a 150 CC bike require a 140 section rear tire.

                      Going by the comparitive suggestions, every 150 CC bike in INDIA is having skinny tire cuz the FZ has 140 section tire.

                      Same goes with the Zma, coming with 100 section tire, so what does it need a 140 section rear????

                      180CC= 120 section rear tire, then 200 equals to 140 and 220 equals to 160 section, this is going by your theory of upsizing.

                      Bajaj gave 180 a 120 section tire just to cut the cost as the whole geometry is now shared with the 220.

                      Grip matters a lot from the compound in the tire used rather than the broadness of the tire.


                      To the thread starter:

                      test drive both the bikes extensively and decide.
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                      • #12
                        ONE word RTR 180
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                          NO.

                          Grip matters a lot from the compound in the tire used rather than the broadness of the tire.
                          I agree. But RTR looses on both it has neither got GRIP nor Broadness. But, there is always higher stability at good speeds in a broader tyre when compared to a smaller section tyre.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
                            I agree. But RTR looses on both it has neither got GRIP nor Broadness. But, there is always higher stability at good speeds in a broader tyre when compared to a smaller section tyre.
                            broader Tyre has higher stability but mileage
                            Example FZ
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
                              But, there is always higher stability at good speeds in a broader tyre when compared to a smaller section tyre.
                              obviously.
                              If you'll put a 180 section tire on the back of the pulsar 180 it'll be more stable at the high speeds than the current one.

                              But tire sizes are decided keeping in mind the whole chasis geometry and the overall dynamics of the bike.
                              And the manufacturers know this better, if only TVS knew they should be providing BETTER tire's to the RTR's.

                              Now lets end the tire discussion here guys and help the chap in the bike.
                              Last edited by rennycornelius; 06-13-2010, 02:06 PM.
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